Exploiting And Minigames(Rtd And How It Ruins Some Maps)

[Sharp0o]

Well, its my time to shine yo,

 

Feel free to move it to the correct subforum if I got it wrong, but it should be here

 

Anyways, i came to the forums to address some issues with the recent update that was implemented to the MiniGames server(maybe not recent , idk, wasn't on for a while)

 

I am here to kind of ask Icon, or any other nice staff, to restrict !rtd access on some maps, or maybe even on the whole server. I understand that the server is Minigames but really, the problem that arises because of it is exploiting.

 

I'll start off with why I wanted a change: I was playing casually on CS:GO minigames server on one of my ex-favorite maps(mg_race_long_extended), a map that was fucked up after Valve decided to fix the wall penetration, casually recking noobs, wall(sound)tracing some people, and trying to be an attention whore, like everyone.... on that server... I was twice denied my 1v5 clutch because: 1. some people already had high-penetration guns when they shouldn't at that point.(ruining the whole point of the map of getting a reward for a run) 2. I was getting shot thru the walls with people exploiting the map.

 

 

Before any of you start bitching about reporting a player if he's exploiting.... well.... That's gonna be shit ton of reports and it may kill the server..

 

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MOVING ON TO THE MAIN POINT FROM THE USELESS RATTLE ABOVE

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I know that the rtd was implemented for a long time on some of the servers, but it is useless in MG.

 

Yes, you can get speed and rek people and farm points with a knife on gun maps..

Yes, you can get half the speed and let someone else rek you,

 

but it really ruins some of the maps

 

 

Here, taking for example mg_long_road_race, again...

 

here is the imgur album for what i am about to talk about:

http://imgur.com/a/9Um9C

 

So basically what is the main problem: gravity... double jump... speed...

 

with more than one word - the roll the dice plugin.

 

You can easily double jump, jump using gravity, bhop using decreased gravity into an area that you shouldn't be accessing. <= exploit.

^you get what i mean....

 

That's one example for you, lets take a look at any course map, ANY map.

Doing it short and swift:

Does it benefit you that there is a plugin? No.

Is it fun? Sometimes.

Is it needed? not really.

 

 

I am sure by this point you understand what my whining is all about:

 

TL;TR: remove rtd pls.

 

 

How long did it take me to write this: 5 min.

Do i care on the overall scale: Not really.

Do i care at all: sometimes, when i can't clutch 1v5 against silver I's

 

 

 

OH, before i forget.. To make things short for the staff, here are some of the possible solutions:

1) Removing rtd as a whole

 

*Easiest

*No one is gonna give a crap

 

2) Restricting it on course maps and some kill maps

 

*A pain in the ass to go through such a long map list

 

3)Lock this topic, put it into archive, sending me to hell and possibly perma-banning me

 

*Easier than 1)

*No one is gonna give a crap for sure

*I won't give a crap

 

 

 

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Edit #1: This post is crap, the format is crap and its cancer to eyes.. Sorry.

Edited February 9, 2015 by Sharp0o

[Burnt]

I understand the concern about the exploiting/getting to places you shouldn't. But you need to understand that !rtd is a choice, and theirs only a chance that you can get those perks and its random. We have made it so that !rtd is only use-able once per spawn, and on that map you do not re-spawn so therefor if you get drugs sucks for you, if you get double jump good for you. As far as a kill map (labeling it as since it will be easier) if they are using the perk to get out of the map and delay rounds/etc then yes they should be warned/kicked/banned. We aren't going to remove a plugin because one person doesn't find it fair or useful, many people enjoy it as it brings a new style of playing with each perk. It even make some maps fun *cough* awp_submarine *cough*, the only thing that I could see being considered is the chances of receive one of the beneficial perks decreased slightly.

[Sharp0o]

I would again argue your point.. (Not really argue, but ....)

Yes its fun, but it adds a lot of trouble for admins...

 

How about maybe try and restrict it on some kill maps that can be easily exploitable because of it? Since there are not a lot of kill maps, compared to the course maps, i am sure that can be done fast

Edited February 9, 2015 by Sharp0o

[UnPrePared_]

Today there was a guy that rolled no clip 2 times in a row.

reduce the chance to 1:64 and everyone will be happy

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All changes that i have ever made to the minigames server can and will be removed if enough people ask me to. I don't play that server much so I do what the people that do play want.