not abuse (Gmod) Abuse Report ([Hg] Scrubbubbles, [Hg] ಠ_ಠ, [Hg] Foxhound [M])

[Shroomman]

Abuse Report

Abuser Name

[HG] Scrubbubbles, [HG] ಠ_ಠ, [HG] FoxHound [M]

Abuser's Steam ID/Unique ID

STEAM_

Where did this occur?

GMod

What server?

[HG] 24/7 Zombie Survival! | US-Central | FastDL | HeLLsGamers.

How long ago did this take place?

1h ago on zs_infirmary

Give us a brief description of the incident.

What happened:

I was blacklisted for the current map due to spawncading from [HG] Scrubbubbles. I was not warned beforehand in Admin chat before the punishment. After talking in all chat about how this was not right, I was then muted by [HG] ಠ_ಠ & [HG] FoxHound [M]. I then left, rejoined, and was banned 2h for avoiding my mute.

 

How I believe I was abused:

I don't have speakers on my computer so I can not hear a mod/admin warning me on voicechat so the action Scrubbubbles took was not justified. When I rejoined I received an apology via pm which I appreciate. I believe the mute by [HG] ಠ_ಠ & [HG] FoxHound [M] was unjustified as I was not spamming chat to disrupt the conversations of other players. I wanted answers as to what I did caused me to be blacklisted. I was having a "conversation" in chat with [HG] FoxHound [M] regarding the situation. Things got heated. Then [HG] ಠ_ಠ mutes me first and [HG] FoxHound [M] muted me afterwards. There again was no warning to stop "spamming" chat and [HG] ಠ_ಠ was not involved in the conversation so why is he muting me? I then left to make the report but realized I needed evidence. So I rejoined, went spectator to grab photos and get steam IDs and was banned from the server.

 

Conclusion:

I believe the actions your mods took was unjustified as they did not follow the rules to properly punish a player. I received no warnings in admin chat/normal chat before my blacklist and mute. Thus my ban would not justified if my mute wasn't. Two hours isn't long to wait but this is more of a statement as to how the server is being improperly moderated from my point of view.

 

Thank you for your consideration

 

Evidence:

Pastebin of the original chat logs plus screenshots of console.

 

Proof Links?

http://pastebin.com/gTGwemeD

http://imgur.com/a/WSLjj

[Scrubbubbles]

Not sure if you were looking at your pm's during the time, I did pm you stating you'll be unzlock the next map as well before you mute evaded. You should also know the spawncamping is never allowed on our ZS servers. You've been playing on our servers for a quite some time and should know the rule of cading zombie spawn, but you caded the spawn regardless. You shouldn't be waiting a mod or goldmin, even a staff member to tell you that spawncading isn't allowed.

 

There's also a difference between blacklisted and zlock,

- A zlock is were you're unable to touch/build with any props on a current map ( You're able to cade the next map. )

- A blacklist is when you're unable to cade for a certain amount of hours.

 

http://imgur.com/a/JVcmT

• 16. Do not barricade zombie spawn(s), around spawn(s) or to monopolize spawn(s) except for objective/escape maps
  

Edited May 14, 2016 by Scrubbubbles

[Shroomman]

I was not warned beforehand in psay by Scrubbubbles for the blacklist. You can see in the raw log that the first psay from Scrubbubbles is after I rejoined and received the following:

[HG] Scrubbubbles to You: :b Apologies, just to let you know you'll be unzlock next map. In the future know not to cade near where zombies

 

Spawncading varies on each map so I was not aware that what I did was considered spawncading on infirmary. I would've taken a picture of what I did but I was banned when i rejoined.

 

I could argue that it was not spam as I was not flooding the chat with garbage. But, I did not receive a warning in psay saying that I was spamming and would be muted. Again, I don't have speakers as they are broken and can not hear voice chat.

 

My main issue with your actions is that I believe you violated rule #2 for admins on Zombie Survival.

2. Admins MUST warn a wrongdoer in ADMIN chat before punishing (except for hackers).

 

I don't think there is an admin chat so psay would be the next best thing. I received no warnings before my blacklist and mute. If my mute was not justified then the ban was not as well for avoiding a mute.

[FoxHound]

I was not warned beforehand in psay by Scrubbubbles for the blacklist.

 

For the record, it is important to know this was a ZLOCK not a ZLIST.

[Shroomman]

Scrubbubbles you did psay me when I rejoined. My issue is that I didn't receive a psay before I was zlocked. According to rule 2, the wrongdoer has to be warned in chat before punishment. Even though I have been here a while I do not know all the caveats of the maps, where we can cade and where it is not allowed. I would have uncaded that cabinet if I was told by in psay that what I was doing was wrong.

 

Face Guy, I believe that

Gags, Mutes, and Slays are warnings in themselves on our servers.

, is not a warning because it also punishes the player. It is a punishment because you take away my ability to speak in this game where communication is needed, I should be warned before I am muted, gagged, slayed.

 

I apologize for getting zlock and blacklist mixed up.

[KarmaOfPain]

Locking this until gmod dl can review

[->SK<-]

You were warned through PM by Scrubbubbles before the zlock, Not Abuse ☑ You were arguing in chat about it non-stop, so i muted you. Not abuse ☑

 

You post stuff like this again Face Guy, especially in an abuse report, we're going to have a very serious problem. A mod is not meant to be obnoxious and completely and utterly rude in any scenario. Posting stuff like this and then just being pretentious by going "Not Abuse ☑" is just not on. This is your final warning Face Guy. Not having this happen again.

 

The STEAM ID for the users you reported is as follows;

 

[HG] Scrubbubbles: STEAM_0:1:82693424

[HG] Foxhound: STEAM_0:0:54424319

 

 

A warning was given after the !zlock was made. However in this case, it being a !zlock, it could've been used as a warning itself. For instance, warning via chat is just going to not get you anywhere in most situations and another route of action would've been more suitable like a mute or a kick.

 

In this case, it was most likely used as a warning tool.

 

It's also your responsibility to actually pay attention to our rules and to follow them.

 

Scrubbubbles just be careful about making sure if you are going to warn them over chat make sure to do it before you take action. If you were using !zlock as a warning, explain that that is the case too.

 

However no abuse took place, it was just a mishap.

 

NOT ABUSE.