New MOTD changes (Wait, what?)

[JessicaJoy]

Input: These needs to be put back in. Without it, red=dead..... I would like to see you prove me wrong on the red=dead, cause i pretty much never see it glitch red.

 

Think about a real jail? Cops can be as close to a prisoner as much as they want. If the inmate were to stab someone in a real jail...there would be actions taken. JJK is thinking about a real jail. Jailbreak is suppose to be treated as if you are in a real jail.

 

Why should T's get away with stabbing a CT even if they are too close.

 

We are preventing this by having the rule "Do not enter areas designated for T's."

[I Love Lamp]

I beg to differ. The server was the most popular (from June of '09-present) it had ever been in December with my long-ass MOTD, ranked #1 in the country (there are threads about it). Before then it might've been highly ranked too. But that would just mean that the length of the MOTD and the rules played have no correlation with the popularity. And the server is run for the players, not for the leaders, so shouldn't the rules be tailored for them too?

 

You can step off the soap box. If you'd like I can dig up game-monitor statistics that prove otherwise about the popularity thing. Also, if you note, before we switched to the long-ass MOTD we were number one in the world, not country.

 

 

Anyways, we ARE doing this for the players. Excessive rules just mean more loopholes. We will add rules as people ask for them, as we see fit, but we are moving away from a long form MOTD so that people new to Jailbreak might just actually be able to enjoy a game within an hour of joining.

 

Our number one goal in terms of servers has always been accessibility, whether you're a grizzled veteran or you just downloaded Counter-Strike. We want Jailbreak to be moderated by the players, and in that line, for the players, not a convoluted set of rules that changes every other day.

 

A long form MOTD just benefits those who know the rules inside and out, and know how to exploit them.

 

We want to keep a short MOTD, with just the basic ruleset, so players can enjoy themselves without having to worry about reported because of some minor slip up or accident.

 

Remember, this is a videogame. Just click on bad guys (well, maybe that's not always applicable for Jailbreak, but you get the idea).

 

As stated before, we do appreciate all the input everyone has given here, and will try to edit the MOTD to best suit players, new and old. Remember, we were all noobs at some point.

[n1ckkkkk]

Think about a real jail? Cops can be as close to a prisoner as much as they want. If the inmate were to stab someone in a real jail...there would be actions taken. JJK is thinking about a real jail. Jailbreak is suppose to be treated as if you are in a real jail.

 

Why should T's get away with stabbing a CT even if they are too close.

 

We are preventing this by having the rule "Do not enter areas designated for T's."

 

You cannot compare Jailbreak to a real jail

Real Jail prisoners dont magically have knives

Guards dont play games with prisoners

Just leave the MOTD alone its fine

[Slazenger]

Only time can tell where it will go. All I can say is that it seems far more chaotic now. Let's hope it settles down soon.

[JessicaJoy]

You cannot compare Jailbreak to a real jail

Real Jail prisoners dont magically have knives

Guards dont play games with prisoners

Just leave the MOTD alone its fine

 

I'm quoting JJK.

 

And I AM IN LOVE WITH THE MOTD NOW

 

 

....so don't bold your text at me!!!

[I Love Lamp]

The MOTD isn't perfect we know that. We'll tinker with it over time. For now, a clean slate on it will be for the best.

[Church]

I was on it earlier and saw that you changed some things per my suggestions and I appreciate that. Thanks for clarifying some of those.

 

Keep it up and we'll have an ALMOST perfect Jailbreak.

[Epic Vagina]

the motd should be more of guidelines to play with the admins reinforcing its. making the motd the final and all powerful law in the server makes it so nitpickers can NITPICK. if they are not the final rules then nitpicking will get you no where.

 

or

 

 

Motd should be taken out completely besides the rule HAVE FUN and it should be up to the people in the server and admins to police the rules.

Edited May 14, 2010 by Epic Vagina

[Awwik]

Vagina that would mean you want admins like albino and some of the others to lead the server. Think about what you just said.

[I Love Lamp]

 

Motd should be taken out completely besides the rule HAVE FUN and it should be up to the people in the server and admins to police the rules.

 

That is always our primary rule. We want people to have fun. On our non-JB servers, that is always the unspoken first law of HG. As long as you don't have your fun at the expense of others (not counting basic play, obviously), enjoy yourself as you see fit.

[Cr(+)sshair]

Only time can tell where it will go. All I can say is that it seems far more chaotic now. Let's hope it settles down soon.

 

I beg to differ...I was in JB for at least 4 hours this morning for bug scouting. I've noticed there's significantly less "check the motd ya noob" type comments. There was also no "chaotic" moments regarding rules while playing.

 

I think players have been enjoying themselves a lot more without a jailbreak code of conduct.

[Slazenger]

Morning's are by far the best time to play, agreed there. Keep it up, things will run smoothly one way or the other in time.

[GoCrzy]

After playing with the changes for a while today, I must say I really like them. I don't understand why so many people are against them, I feel the game is a lot less nitpicky and a lot more fun now. Yeah it sucks to have a ct happen to run in front of your knife or something, but, hey, you are the one randomly stabbing the air like a moron As long as admins continue to crack down on baiters I am cool with it all.

[Dullknife]

I Like the new Motd, but it needs to be plain simple just put RED = Dead because alot of ppl in JB keep complaing Red does not equal dead. I mean all day its NO red does not equal dead. I talked to JJK and I hope when he gets the chance to modify the motd that he can put Red does equal dead! It was your risk so pay for it. :eek:

[Oblongs]

personally i like the crouch fix, but im not a big fan of the whole bait issue so far.... since ive been in the server ive always knife on my way to the destination and if a ct gets in my way i will kill him cause its bait and there are some times where im high or something and go out of the way to knife a ct for shits and giggles and i know thats not bait but since this new rule ive had several encounters of cts running right by me and ill knife em for being stupid and theyll turn around an shoot me..... and its depressing

 

but anyways just sharing a thaught....

[GoCrzy]

personally i like the crouch fix, but im not a big fan of the whole bait issue so far.... since ive been in the server ive always knife on my way to the destination and if a ct gets in my way i will kill him cause its bait and there are some times where im high or something and go out of the way to knife a ct for shits and giggles and i know thats not bait but since this new rule ive had several encounters of cts running right by me and ill knife em for being stupid and theyll turn around an shoot me..... and its depressing

 

but anyways just sharing a thaught....

 

Demo it and t-list their asses for baiting. If users and admins crack down more on baiting and don't let cts get away with it here and there it will slowly dissipate.

[General Red]

Revocation of free days and such really needs to be added. Can we revoke freedays?

 

LOTS OF COMPLAINTS, after this and war day rules, i think motd is perfect.

[Hamhugger]

Revocation of free days and such really needs to be added. Can we revoke freedays?

 

LOTS OF COMPLAINTS, after this and war day rules, i think motd is perfect.

 

Warday are orders just like any other orders. It can be stopped but the Ts wont want to listen. And freedays have always been revocable since it is technically lead giving up his position. I dont see a problem here.

[Hamhugger]

The way you some of you guys want the MOTD done it will make it look like the old one. Every day someone posts just add this and it will be perfect. the next day someone says the same thing. stop your qq.

[Siphaed]

personally i like the crouch fix, but im not a big fan of the whole bait issue so far.... since ive been in the server ive always knife on my way to the destination and if a ct gets in my way i will kill him cause its bait and there are some times where im high or something and go out of the way to knife a ct for shits and giggles and i know thats not bait but since this new rule ive had several encounters of cts running right by me and ill knife em for being stupid and theyll turn around an shoot me..... and its depressing

 

but anyways just sharing a thaught....

 

 

Here's the only way anyone can become "Red" on the server:

 

1) Attacking an enemy player (from the other team) with a weapon.

 

 

That is basic knowledge and applies common sense. Because of this, it's already known that Red = Dead on the server.

 

 

The reason why they don't put it in so bluntly is because it would take away many, many game versions that are fun for the players:

 

- 300!

 

- Zombie Day

 

- Pokemon Battles

 

 

See, all these require that a T attempt to survive by using their knives to attack, so a "Red = Dead" would ruin it.

 

 

 

 

P.S. Although it maybe only -1 HP from throwing a grenade at a CT, it's still technically attacking the CT with a weapon and thus is worth of being shot if so deemed by any other CT.

[GoCrzy]

I think that Red = Dead should be added but next to it should also be added an exception like, "Red = Dead (Unless a warden's game requires Ts to become rebels)"

[Linoleum Knive]

The red=dead always confuses me. Some admins claim its in MOTD and allow it, some claim its not allowed. I dont ever want to be claimed a FK. I agree with adding it to MOTD.

[Dan1]

The red=dead always confuses me. Some admins claim its in MOTD and allow it, some claim its not allowed. I dont ever want to be claimed a FK. I agree with adding it to MOTD.

 

90% of the time red does equal dead. If a terrorist knives you, you may kill him ("may" being the keyword here).

If a CT is in your immediate area - knifing them will be at your own risk.

 

But that doesn't mean you can just go running up to a terrorist so he gets killed.

Do not enter areas designated for T's. OR INDUCE THEM TO ATTACK YOU. "baiting"

 

And of course, if it is a 300 day in which the terrorists are forced to become rebels through the gameplay, you can only kill them if they do not follow orders and/or rebel outside of the designated "300 day zone". I hope that clears a bit up for you.

[motive]

Just have smokes go through players and red will always equal dead. And we won't have to deal with waiting smokes out when they get thrown in a stack.