[not abuse] HG | Awwik

[Strummer]

1. Abuser name: HG | Awwik

2. Their Steam Id: STEAM_0:0:19745776

3. What server: Jailbreak

4. About what time: Around 9:15

5. PROOF:

 

1:

 

My console wouldn't go up any further, but the context was EggFriedCheese was playing a song through hlss during a freeday, wasn't spamming over anyone, and no one told him to stop. Awwik then mutes him, not sure if he is an elevated admin, but last I checked admins aren't supposed to use powers on other admins. Awwik then comes and uses his recently attained veteran status as a ticket to be a douchebag to Egg and I after I reminded him that admins shouldn't use powers on other admins. Technically egg wasn't even spamming over anyone.

 

 

I don't have a demo, but the context of this is that in the beginning of the round he started yelling at me, quite literally yelling, (spamming over people trying to take lead I might add) for disrespecting him, rather than using admin chat like admins should. I later said in admin chat that all I was saying at that point was that the freakout over mic was unnecessary and getting pissed over something so small is pointless. (CubanCarlos also said I was the one making a big deal, which amused me, since I wasn't the one who flipped out on the mic but that's beside the main point:

 

 

 

CubanCarlos comes in and asks me what I am crying about, I ask him what his problem is with me, since he had been making smartass comments to me throughout the entire thing, which somehow awwik concludes is disrespect to a veteran member, and then proceeds to kick me for it. My console doesn't say this, but eggfried cheese saw him kick me.

 

Two thoughts on this. Being a veteran doesn't put you above the rules or above other admins if you are a standard admin. I only assume he is a standard admin because his admin number is in the 1000s, suggesting he is a new admin. I wasn't even hostile when I told him it was against admin rules + egg wasn't really spamming anyway.

 

He also a second time, and illegitimately kicked me, and I am an admin.

 

Now if he is an elevated/trusted admin, then I can't really make these claims because that would put him above me, but it doesn't excuse him being a douchebag and illegitimately kick me.

 

I reconnected a bit later after he came in vent and continued on the issue in the lobby.

 

 

I simply stated he illegitimately kicked me, the only reason I came in to JB admin chat was because he left vent in the middle of me explaining my position. He then accused me of starting more shit, implying I was starting shit in the first place, which I honestly wasn't. I just disconnected after that because I really didn't want to deal with him, so that's the end of it. I can't prove it, but in vent he also was insulting me saying that after he kicked me everyone said they hoped it was a ban, which I know not to be true, because several people enjoy my company in the server. I can see, one, maybe two people I had slayed and were pissed about it saying they hoped it was a ban, but not the entire server.

 

Overall I think he is taking his vet status, and if he has it, elevated admin privileges and being a dick with it. He in fact, probably sarcastically, but still told me at least twice to file an abuse report against him. So, hell, here it is.

6. Please tell us about the incident: I think I explained it pretty well in 5

 

 

I'm not suggesting his admin be removed, just that he be talked to, to not abuse like this. It was kind of ridiculous. If this isn't enough proof to at least get a staff member to speak with him, then I'll be damned, and get a demo at some point and bring this back up, but it's not like I'm asking he be banned/removed or anything.

Edited August 19, 2010 by n1ckkkkk

[n1ckkkkk]

Sp your posting this for someone else or what?

[CubanCarlos]

Ok.

 

I would just like to say that i was not being a smart ass whatsoever, you were obviousley disrespecting a Veteran member, and we dont take that too lightly. I am not usually a dick, infact, i hardly am, but i will be stern when i have to, and i do it all to help you.

 

I honestly do not see what the big problem is here, while i was witnessing the whole thing, i did not directly involve myself in it, as it was not my problem.

 

Any member of HG should be the first one who understands the motd. Egg is in HG, and ABOVE that, an admin. As a member of HG, you represent us and set examples of how you should play. the first thing someone sees when an HG member is spamming his mic is that they should do it too, and that is what ends up happening. He simply kicked him, because he is a higher member than him, and i really do not see anything wrong with that. He has been here fairly long to deserve that right and understand the rules.

 

What followed afterwards was an effect of your moaning. If it werent for you accepting the fact that a Veteran member simply kicked a recruit for spamming mic, this would have not happened. You escalated even further, disrespected both me and Awwik, and were not listening to us whatsoever. I, by the ways, am a trusted admin, and while i did not use my powers against you, i very well could have, but i completely agree with what Awwik did here.

 

I don't like to be a dick, but when we offer respect to someone, we deserve it back, and when that does not happen, especially for the time and effort we sacrifice every day for being here, not to mention so much to the extent of us being veterans, we think we have the right to do so.

 

Edit: Now seeing Nick's post, Egg apparently had no problem with it whatsoever. He accepted the kick, and stopped, like he should have.

[Awwik]

I don't see at any point in your screenshots me saying anything about vet. Also just because he is an admin does not mean he can spam HLSS through a freeday. Multiple people tried to give orders and Egg was spamming his music and T's could not here. Also your some of your screen shots are the same things but missing a line to make it seem like more proof.

 

I admit I should not of said anything over my mic. I should of typed in admin, but I would like to point out that just because you and egg have admin does not make you invincible. Egg was breaking the rules of the server. I like egg a whole lot he is a great recruit but to say that just because he has admin he can spam is wrong. You started a huge problem by accusing me of thing that i do not do. I have had admin for quiet sometime and am known not to abuse it. I may be harsh but Jailbreak already has enough spam without admins doing it.

 

 

I would also like to point out that this has nothing to do with Vet or recruit or w.e. this is about the mic spam which i muted Eggs for. You had a problem with it and started disrespecting me and cuban. I should of kicked you for disrespect and not added the vet part. For that I am sorry but you both need to play by the rules

[LazaHorse]

Egg was muted for spamming while CTs tried to give orders. He unmuted himself no more than 10 seconds later during his LR anyway. I don't see why this escalated to such a big deal, but Awwik, Cuban, and myself tried to get you and Egg to drop it MULTIPLE times. Egg did, he stopped after maybe 5 minutes, but you just couldn't let it go. It wasn't that big of a deal, and that kick was warranted to give you some time to cool off and honestly to put you in your place. He may not be trusted admin as one would be able to tell from typing in sm_who in console, but he is a vet member and doesn't need to take crap like the crap you were giving him. He was in the right to mute Egg, he was in the right to kick you, and right now this should probably /thread before it gets anymore out of hand.

[EggFriedCheese]

I don't like to be a dick, but when we offer respect to someone, we deserve it back, and when that does not happen, especially for the time and effort we sacrifice every day for being here, not to mention so much to the extent of us being veterans, we think we have the right to do so.

 

No offence dude... But You gave us not an ounce of respect, either you or awwik. I was doing no harm, in playing music to the server, as it was a freeday, and no-one specifically asked me to stop... I just got muted for it, and no explanation why/apology/no warning or asking for me to stop. As "Veteran", You still follow exactly the same admin rules as the rest of us admins / trusted admins also, but that doesn't give you the right, as a "Veteran" to start being a douchebag to other players in the server, and especially not to kick Strummer for the reason of "Disrespect to a Vet"... The "Don't use Admin commands on another Admin" Still applies to you awwik... Even if you are a vet member, the admin rules are no different to you.

 

 

Someone please /thread this, before it gets out of hand.

[Awwik]

I never said it didn't apply to me egg.......but he was being disrespectful to multiple people. I said in my post above that i should have labeled it disrespect. NOT disrespect to a vet. Its very obvious Egg that you have not been playing in Jb long. If its your !LR go for it play music, but when its a freeday and people are trying to get lead and can not be heard because of your HLSS I will mute you. It doesnt matter if you are a admin or another player you should not be spamming during freedays or when lead is talking.

[EggFriedCheese]

So, what about every other player, when on a freeday, Like mario, when he gets on, plays music on a freeday, and doesn't get muted, because his music is "Good"... That's favouritism, and that's then rediculous. No-one was trying to give commands when i started playing music, because there were no CT's alive at the time, who had a microphone to give orders...

[Awwik]

Nobody should be spamming HLSS during freedays. If its your !lr and nobody says stop then its fine, but since Cts can not scream over your music during freedays HLSS should not be played.

[n1ckkkkk]

Mario shouldnt be spamming

Ive banned him multiple times

And dont do this well this other guy did it so I thought I can

Did you ask each individual CT guessing no

[Strummer]

Yeah, and after egg got muted, no one took orders. No one was trying to. And I wasn't trying to make it look like more proof, the entire thing didn't fit in one shot. The reason I posted a report and made it a big deal is because I'm not gonna take it up the ass just because I'm a recruit and you're a vet. I wasn't disrespecting at all. And it's not that you spammed mic getting mad at me, it was the being a douche in general about it. I completely agree with egg, you guys gave us not one bit of respect. In fact, I told you it wasn't me disrespecting you, it was you guys disrespecting lowers.

 

He played a song near the end of the round. No one complained. No one took orders. You muted him. You said someone was trying to, no one was. Cuban, I'm not trying to accuse you of much, but honestly some of the comments were unwarranted and unnecessary.

 

@Laz, after he kicked me he came in vent and kept going, it wasn't all me.

 

I don't even care as much about the kick or the mute or anything about the admin commands against other admins. It was the massive disrespect and general douchebaggery to Egg and I that I'm complaining about. You told me to come make an abuse report, here's your abuse report. Being a vet, especially since you aren't a higher admin, doesn't give you the right to be a douchebag. It earns you respect, yes, vets to get more respect than recruits and regular members. It doesn't mean you can totally disrespect lowers though. It wasn't the fact that you kicked, it was the reason, disrespecting vet, which as screenshots point out, I was being calm and collected until Cuban said what are you crying about, which just kinda pissed me off, it was unneeded and I don't get what his problem was.

 

I simply said that egg is an admin, you should refrain from using admin powers on other admins like the admin rules say. I also pointed out that he wasn't spamming. No one was trying to take lead. No admin has ever talked to egg about hlss spam before and he plays music over hlss all the time. By your logic, hlss would be banned during wardays too, and egg isn't the only one who does it during freedays and war days.

 

Like I said, it's not the commands and stuff that started it, it was you massively exploding for some reason, and being a total douchebag, then accusing us of disrespecting.

 

I'm not trying to get you admin banned or anything, not even demoted. At the very least I thought an abuse report would maybe suggest that you keep yourself collected, because honestly, that was ridiculous. I'm not saying everyone in HG is like that at all, but if you were a first impression to me as a newcomer, wearing a veteran tag, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with the clan or its servers. Just as much as egg and I represent HG, if not more, you do as well, and the behavior shown really in my opinion doesn't represent HG very well.

 

 

And an EDIT::::

 

Awwik, who else was I disrespecting? I am always a nice player on the server, I hardly ever even get mad unless the entire CT team are a bunch of idiots. I'm sure other people can attest to that. Most people on the server either have no opinion on me or actually like me playing, and say I do a good job as an admin. Rawzz, another admin, has told me many times how I am a good admin, compared to some of the admins that have been on JB. I don't think you can come up with one name, aside from me allegedly disrespecting veteran CubanCarlos, that I was disrespecting.

Edited August 19, 2010 by Strummer

[EggFriedCheese]

If I am asked to stop the music, by 1 person then I will. I didn't get asked at all to stop the music... Just got muted. That's what this is really all about.

 

Edit: My Post looks tiny, compared to strummers

[Strummer]

If I am asked to stop the music, by 1 person then I will. I didn't get asked at all to stop the music... Just got muted. That's what this is really all about.

 

Well for me it's more about the massive disrespect. But yeah, I play with egg all the time, when a blue microphone marker comes up, he stops because he knows someone is trying to take orders. Several people use hlss during freedays and as long as they stop when they see a CT talking, admins never mute him for spamming. Admins do it themselves. Not just egg.

[Awwik]

You should not be spamming HLSS in wardays freedays or anything else but !lr. I muted you because you spamming sets a terrible example of what to do on JB. There were multiple people trying to talk but your spamming made it impossible for them to say anything.

[Strummer]

You should not be spamming HLSS in wardays freedays or anything else but !lr. I muted you because you spamming sets a terrible example of what to do on JB. There were multiple people trying to talk but your spamming made it impossible for them to say anything.

 

If I had a demo I would prove no one was trying to. But you don't have a demo either, so that's just going to become a stalemate conflict.

 

I have never seen you mute anyone else that was playing music during freeday/warday, unless someone was trying to take orders. Which in this case, they weren't.

 

People like music during wardays. It's actually requested. People say, oh someone we need good war music. It's part of war day practically.

[n1ckkkkk]

So if Im aimbotting should the admin warn me first

This is dumb

Not abuse

Wheres Borts thread when you need it

[Strummer]

This isn't about the mic thing. For me at least. Like I have said many times, it's about the blatant disrespect.

 

The mic thing is just what started it.

[n1ckkkkk]

Your proof shows absolutely no disrespect

[Strummer]

It shows a little bit. It shows him saying I don't know anything, and it shows him disregarding us.

 

He admitted to yelling over mic at the beginning of the round, if that's no proof.

 

Like I said, for the umpteenth time, I'm not trying to get him removed or anything. Just want him to be more mindful of his behavior, as vet doesn't mean he can disrespect. Doesn't make him above the rules.

[n1ckkkkk]

Ump-teenth says your out

No abuse/and hardly if anything disrespect

[Weeman]

everyone get your heads out of each other's asses and stop causing issues with each other. very very simple. If i have to come in the server untagged with a different name to babysit and i catch this shit going on first hand your going to get banned.