Complaint: Carl of Duty: Black Ops

[DarkZeUs]

1. Name: Carl of Duty: Black Ops (a.k.a. Lazarus)

2. Steam Id: STEAM_0:1:18265306

3. Server: [HG] Jailbreak #1

4. Reason: Player disrespect

5. Proof: N/A - Happened too quickly

6. Comments: This needs to go on record. Another individual came into the server, and I don't know how the topic started, but they were talking about U.S. Soldiers dying in Iraq and that is when Carl started decided to trash-talk and disrespect the U.S. Military (free speech, I know), but he started dissing a player's brother who died in combat, also trash talking me when I came to the other -hg- player's defense (regarding his brother), trashing my previous life as a soldier.

 

I confronted him about his behavior and he called me a troll soldier who has never seen combat. Albeit I can provide no proof to you all, I have spent 30 months overseas in combat and have lost many friends in the war. Since the HG servers do not tolerate racism, I equate this behavior to racism as it stereotypes a group of people with no commonalities other than the color of their uniform (or skin as a metaphor).

 

Think what you want about war, government, armies. Please don't disrespect soldiers and fallen soldiers. This should not be tolerated, and I hope this can be used for consideration for future action against him, taking into account all the other ban requests on him. Thanks for reading.

Edited December 16, 2010 by Cr(+)sshair

[LazaHorse]

I didn't disrespect any soldier or any part of the US armed forces. My dad served for the US marines for over 10 years before his tenure with the FBI. The person I was talking to was actually the one you should be reporting. He was lying. He later said his brother was "fked in Iraq." HE was the one I was calling a troll. However, you felt the need to bring up your story as a soldier to which I responded that whatever your specific story may be, we both know that 90% of soldiers who enlist do not see actual combat but rather serve as technicians or manual support, never actually needing to fire their weapons after basic training.

 

Realize the context next time. I meant in no way to disrespect the armed forces including yourself. You however took a conversation that you weren't even involved in to the next level and made yourself the supposed target of comments that were never for you or about you. This was between me and some idiot troll belittling the risk that soldiers take in war (I think he was an hg recruit... not sure now what his name was).

[LazaHorse]

As far as the recruit who I was referring to:

 

-hg- ForeverAlone

 

This is the link to his chatlog.

 

http://hellsgamers.gameme.com/player_histories/chat/288121

 

You will see many half-heartedly stupid statements about his brother being "fked in Iraq" by "irl CTs." This is the person I was talking to, not you.

[Zinthius]

5. Proof: N/A - Happened too quickly

To Fast to take a Screenshot of Console? Are you kidding me?

[DarkZeUs]

"we both know that 90% of soldiers who enlist do not see actual combat but rather serve as technicians or manual support, never actually needing to fire their weapons after basic training."

 

and

 

"This was between me and some idiot troll belittling the risk that soldiers take in war (I think he was an hg recruit... not sure now what his name was). "

 

Can you get any more contradictory than this? On one hand you are saying that 90% of soldiers do nothing but serve as technicians (and no, I don't agree with you, that must be what your Father told you), and another guy is an idiot troll who belittles all the risks soldiers take?

So what you are saying is that soldiers do work that is not risky (technicians, manual support (wtf is manual support?)), but yet he is an idiot for belittling their risky work in war?

 

Anyway, I will not use this forum for some long winded argument. Lazarus, you know what you said, and how you said it. I just wanted everyone else to know. The reason for me "bringing up my story", was to let you know that I was very serious about your derogatory comments.

 

Lazarus, I will always take any conversation to the next level when it becomes derogatory in nature towards soldiers/fallen soldiers, so if you think that because I became involved, then you can use my involvement to make some sort of example of me, you are mistaken.

[LazaHorse]

To Fast to take a Screenshot of Console? Are you kidding me?

 

Since this thread is about me, I have no problem telling you this.

 

This thread does not regard you, the door is that-a-way.

 

And he probably means that since most of what I said was over the mic, he didn't have time to record a demo to catch the two sentences that he's alleging me of.

[DarkZeUs]

To Fast to take a Screenshot of Console? Are you kidding me?

 

Not kidding at all. Plus I am playing on an iMac right now, and I have nothing set up currently. How do you screen shot talking over the mic?

[Zinthius]

"we both know that 90% of soldiers who enlist do not see actual combat but rather serve as technicians or manual support, never actually needing to fire their weapons after basic training."

 

and

 

"This was between me and some idiot troll belittling the risk that soldiers take in war (I think he was an hg recruit... not sure now what his name was). "

 

Can you get any more contradictory than this? On one hand you are saying that 90% of soldiers do nothing but serve as technicians (and no, I don't agree with you, that must be what your Father told you), and another guy is an idiot troll who belittles all the risks soldiers take?

So what you are saying is that soldiers do work that is not risky (technicians, manual support (wtf is manual support?)), but yet he is an idiot for belittling their risky work in war?

 

Anyway, I will not use this forum for some long winded argument. Lazarus, you know what you said, and how you said it. I just wanted everyone else to know. The reason for me "bringing up my story", was to let you know that I was very serious about your derogatory comments.

 

Lazarus, I will always take any conversation to the next level when it becomes derogatory in nature towards soldiers/fallen soldiers, so if you think that because I became involved, then you can use my involvement to make some sort of example of me, you are mistaken.

 

I'm an expert on the subject of this 90% and it's 9097% true that most statistics are made on the spot.

It's also 100% true that this thread should be closed because it's becoming a flame war.

It's also 100% true that usually if you haven't "Been There" You shouldn't be trying to make statistics about

Being There"

It's also 100% True that DarkZeus Appears to be a nationalist.

It's also 100% True that Dark Zeus has 5 posts, MY counting is correct, 1/2 of them are in this thread. So, Via Statistics 60% of your posts are flame wars/ Recruit posts.

[LazaHorse]

What you are quoting that I said I said is exactly what I said (l2grammar right?). It's a fact that when we are in a state of either decreased involvement or neutrality from an international conflict, while recruiting rises, only 10 or so percent see actual combat. Most fighting done in Iraq and Afghanistan is not in skirmishes between armed soldiers but from terrorist tactics by squads of guerrilla troops. What I said is not wrong, nor is it derogatory in any way to the armed forces.

 

This person whose statements I have actually proven are in fact the derogatory statements that you should be upset about rather than turning a blind eye to. While I know that most soldiers who enlist to fight for their country see time as workhands, there are still soldiers who die for a war that many do not believe in. I understand that. This other person over a span of 10 or so minutes posted trollific comments about how his brother was fked in Iraq, comments that you took as truth when they were clearly sarcastic and disrespectful.

 

You can assume I said whatever I said in whatever way you think I said it. However the fact remains that you have no proof of your claims, and the only claims I've made, I have proof of.

 

 

And I'm 100% sure Zinthius needs to leave before he is banned for posting where he doesn't belong.

Edited December 16, 2010 by LazaHorse
Iunno...

[Cr(+)sshair]

Closed.