Skanky Tank Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) 1. Name: Woochoo 2. Steam Id: STEAM_0:0:16595471 3. Server: TF2 Pipeline 4. Reason: Possible Hacks, complaints from other players 5. Proof: http://www.mediafire.com/?y7b16pdzxdgd0z6 6. Comments: Kind of skeptical about this one, but I think that he's either doing some kind of shortstop glitch or a hack. His aim is incredibly good. He's pretty high in the ranks so I can't tell for sure. If he turns up positive as a hacker just ban him. Edited January 26, 2011 by Artillery Don't have TF2 installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woochoo Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I actually came to these forums to complain about someone else and found this. I do not hack. I've never used a cheat in this game or any other game. I play the scout primarily and I like using the short stop. The short stop uses shotgun-like bullets when it is fired. When you shoot the short stop, it sends out pellets that spread out the further it goes. You can hit people from a long distance using this gun but for very minimal damage, like 6. As you get closer, more pellets hit your target, increasing the damage you do. Here is a TF2 wiki article about the gun. http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Shortstop I am not abusing a glitch with the gun or using any kind of aim bot. I've been playing on this server off and on since April of last year I believe and only recently started playing TF2 again. I get how hacks can ruin people's games. Another server I played on eventually died out because the admins didn't take action against actual hackers. I ask that someone watch me in game and use the short stop for themselves. Record me, spectate me, do whatever you want to verify that I do not hack. When you've come to your conclusion, you'll see I do not hack. This started because a player named ken_keene got pissed I killed him multiple times and started spewing the "he hacks" stuff. He kept saying it and got others to believe it. ken_keene is a good player but he rages very easily and falls back on the old standard "if they beat me, they hacked". I request that once you've found that I do not hack, please warn ken_keene for harassment against me. I've tried explaining to him how he needs to learn how other classes work but he's as stubborn as a mule. I'm getting tired of being called a cheater when I am not and having others starting to believe him. Thank you for your time and I hope you can be fair in reaching a conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skanky Tank Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 You hold the reload button as you shoot, I tried it for myself and I noticed something different. Trust me, I don't have anything against you, just I felt obligated to post due to complaints. Your aim is astonishingly precise aswell, but not 'snap to' kind, it's connected but still on target. It's still under review so for now let's just see what happens. If your true to your word and you come out negative, then I'll take back any doubt I had about you. Thanks for posting as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woochoo Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Just wanted to point something out about your first comment which is that TF2 has a built in "auto reload" feature in the options menu. You can find it by going to Options --> Multiplayer --> Advanced. It's near the top of the list, called "Automatically reload weapons when you're not firing". I have that option enabled. I also press the shoot button each time rather than holding it down, as a habit of mine. This gives the game time to start reloading the weapon in between shots. I hope this can get resolved as I enjoy playing in the server and have for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_keene Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I'm mentioned here, and yes I find Woochoo's play to be highly suspicious. My perception is that I play plenty of TF2, and plenty of scouts come and go, but this guy just does not miss. Mind you he is double and triple jumping in all directions while not missing with shots. I don't claim to be any kind of TF2 pro or expert, but I am a decent player and play against plenty of other scouts, and I have played as a scout. It seems unlikely to me to be able to hop around like that and constantly hit the target every single shot. I stand by what I said and I also support Skanky Tank's statements. It bears being looked at and if I am wrong I will gladly apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woochoo Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) The shortstop has a spread shot. There's a difference between hitting every shot for full damage and hitting someone for 6 damage from the top of the ramp to the spawn doors in Pipeline1 knowing that one pellet always goes directly where your cross hair is centered at. The TF2wiki article even states that. This doesn't even take into account off-centered pellets which may hit something. If anything, you should have an issue with the gun. Scouts can also change direction in midair using double jump and when I'm doing that, I'm randomly shooting to hit anything because chances are, i'm in trouble and just trying to take something with me when I go down. Watch that demo he posted, near the beginning when I was 1 v 1 with that other scout. I had to reload several times before I finally killed him, even in close range. I want the admins to look into it so that I can be cleared of any wrong doing. I hate cheaters but I also hate being called a cheater when I am not one. If I were a cheater, I don't think i'd be wasting my time trying to defend myself and would just find another server to troll. I like this server because several people that join are around my skill level. I am by no means a great player so it is nice finding a server where people are near your level. and I have no hard feelings towards ken_keene, I'm just tired of being called a cheater when I am not one. I do, however, understand his concern. edit: this post was a response to ken_keene but he deleted his post for some reason. Edited January 27, 2011 by Woochoo ken_keene deleted his post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_keene Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I don't know why (or by whom) my previous post was deleted. I didn't type anything offensive or foul that I can imagine would have violated any conduct rules (although I am brand new here). but since I didn't save the text I'm not going to go through it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma# Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) In ban requests, we kindly ask that only moderators, staff members, the accused and the original banning admin to post. It is not necessary for anyone else to post unless they are providing additional demos or proof. So yes, you did violate a rule but you did not know so no worries there. I will restore it this time as a benefit of doubt. Edited January 27, 2011 by enigma# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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