Phate Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I have played HG servers for ever, but with an update, we lost the bots. This pleased me. I know it pleased others too. So why on Earth would we even consider putting them back? Furthermore, we still cant tell if we should join a server because they all ay that they have 23/24 or 31/32. that is just sad that we feel the need to mask the population of our servers. I think we can compromise on one of 2 choices: We can have bots with the playercount only showing live players Or we can have no bots and no fake playercount, so we can Have servers more populated by inviting friends to "start" a server up. Again, WTF is wrong her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxygen Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Bots were never supposed to be gone permanently, as stated in previous threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phate Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Im saying if the majority dont want bots, then why does the dev team persist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDR Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 If we put bots back, that's good enough for me. If we remove the fake player numbers, that will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalshot Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I think the reason we have the masked number of players is so that people who refresh the internet game list and click top players in servers, they will see our servers and join it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevodka Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Unless inclined to join one specific server, a random player isn't going to want to join an empty server; they know there are no players in it. Thus bots, to increase traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devistator Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Unless inclined to join one specific server, a random player isn't going to want to join an empty server; they know there are no players in it. Thus bots, to increase traffic. A recruit that has common sense?!?!?!!? PROMOTE THIS MAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l4d2bob Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I want bots son whatsup? pipeline is dead w/o bots man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runda20 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Never played with bots in TF2 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaySquad_ATARIS Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I think bots are good. There are a handful of regulars who always play with them and I really think it's nicer to see taht the server is "populated" which would have people more likely join (at least in HooDoo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/-/-()/-/3Y Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I for one, hate bots. They are evil, infact one told me "Sandmich!" and I crapped my pants. Bots try to shoot through walls and they look retarded as hell doing it. I want to fight a player, and also player count is evil. The first time I went on an hg server on tf2 I was like, "Yay only one spot left, I feel special" but I found this out and I felt like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksmithri Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Out of curiosity if the server is near full or full... will the bots leave to allow "Real" people to join in?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Android Penguin Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Out of curiosity if the server is near full or full... will the bots leave to allow "Real" people to join in?? Bots leave as people join. Bots join as people leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDR Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Funny, some reviewers criticized Valve for no bots in TF2 when it first came out. Now that they are on, people don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l4d2bob Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 If we put bots back, that's good enough for me. If we remove the fake player numbers, that will be better. I WANT BOTS AND NO FAKE PLAYER NUMBERS I LIKE TF2 ALOT HI IM HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Wings Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I WANT BOTS AND NO FAKE PLAYER NUMBERSI LIKE TF2 ALOT HI IM HERE N-N-N-N-Necroposted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJam Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Personally I'm torn between bots and no bots. I agree they can increase traffic and joins based on the "nobody wants to eat in an empty restaurant" saying, but the bots I saw (especially in Hoodoo) were little more than AFK placeholders. They would stand in the spawn doing nothing, which is almost worse, especially when you have a full real player team you're going against. I think if you could modify their paths somehow so they actually attack, and of course limit them to say 5 per team and drop them off when people join the server, that would be a better way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phate Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 While this necropost has been brought back up, we should review the issue. It is no help to populate, I go in a server, exited to play, get bummed and we end up stacking on one team against shit bots. What I want ot bring up next time a community night happens is the consolidating servers on tf2. I know servers like hoodoo and dustbowl are always full, but do we really need a 2fort and a 2fort/Turbine? I mean, we could consolidate a lot of server to just be the popular ones, and plr, payload, CP, CTF, and Attack/defend, with a rtv system to keep the servers more full, and we can use those servers for other games soon to come, like the impending tf3 and CS:HAmmer. It would be better for all of us to keep the fun servers fun, and the less full ones just as fun. Maybe a botvote mod could be made to toggle bots, so that the popular vote wins on each server. Also, faking a playercount is just douchey. It kinda reads to the pubbers that HG is so sad and pathetic it can't populate its own servers. Maybe we can get a server with a sticky forum post where we can add maps made by HG, and other 3rd party maps like some of the css minigames maps are. just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 While this necropost has been brought back up, we should review the issue. I know servers like hoodoo and dustbowl are always full, but do we really need a 2fort and a 2fort/Turbine? http://www.gametracker.com/search/tf2/?query=hellsgamers 2Fort/Turbine is one of our top servers now. Also, faking a playercount is just douchey. It kinda reads to the pubbers that HG is so sad and pathetic it can't populate its own servers. This mod is slowly being removed as we register our servers with TF2 Quickplay system. If you Maybe we can get a server with a sticky forum post where we can add maps made by HG, and other 3rd party maps like some of the css minigames maps are. just a thought. https://hellsgamers.com/forums/173-Map-Suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEE SUPER GERMAN! Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 The reason WHY fake playercount fails for TF2 and not CSS: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2338 OLD TF2 blog post explaining how servers score. Now, if we have a fake playercount on out servers, people will join and a lot of them will quickly leave the server before that 15 minute marker, giving us a bad wrap. I'd rather have someone just not join the server than to join and leave quickly. People will join the server if it's empty/low pop and stay if they joined knowing beforehand that it was. Bots, ehh I don't like them either, but they're least it's better than RTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher' Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Interesting subject. bots are good on some servers and just donw right annoying on others. Imo I think they should just be gone all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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