Plague! Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) Before you read this, know I'm not asking for a fun command So, before I got admin, I was wondering why a regular player couldn't even do ma_rates.. But, then I bought admin and found out I STILL can't do this command? The only thing it does is show peoples rates, it's not like someone can destroy everyones rates or anything from the console, just shows their rates. So why can't admins do it? I think a regular player should be able to do it as well, in case an admin isn't in the server and someones rates are messed up. If you're worried about someone telling people wrong rates, that could already happen.. and only good players, or old ones who know what they're doing would really know or use this command. People complain about REG on servers all the time, the least we could do is know who's rates need some attention and help them out. I mean it's up to council/staff obviously, but I know I would use ma_rates ALL the time. thanks, -ryan Edited May 9, 2009 by Plague! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackEyes Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I agree, +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ2 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Homer has it disabled for his own reasons.... not sure what those are but I will let him respond to this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague! Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 alright, thanks dj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredTacos Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Figures, HOMER ALWAYS MESSING STUFF UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdh Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 A bunch of ppl who don't know how the rates correlate to player performance in server with access to ma_rates = "zomg his rates are messed up, thats why he killed me, ban ban ban" = fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague! Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 Well then thats missuse of banning, lol and should be punished ! lmao, but i mean, all you gotta do is tell em to fix their rates, and tell em how would be absolutely stupid to ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdh Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 exactly. So why go through the hassle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracefail<3 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 It seems like all that admins can do anymore is kick and ban people. We are players too, We enjoy having fun also, but being an admin gets aggrivating sometimes, giving us one command makes our time on any HG server just that much more fun. I remember when admins could use "ma_explode" and it made everyone happy when we used it, (At least on Surf) but when it was removed, Admins had nothing, making the game less fun.. Now, How can admins make the game more fun if we can't? It doesn't make any sense in my own opinion. Critical thinking FTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredTacos Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 It seems like all that admins can do anymore is kick and ban people. We are players too, We enjoy having fun also, but being an admin gets aggrivating sometimes, giving us one command makes our time on any HG server just that much more fun. I remember when admins could use "ma_explode" and it made everyone happy when we used it, (At least on Surf) but when it was removed, Admins had nothing, making the game less fun.. Now, How can admins make the game more fun if we can't? It doesn't make any sense in my own opinion. Critical thinking FTW. Admins aren't in the server to make it fun. They are there to keep dipshits from being dipshits and make playtime more enjoyable. What you view as "fun" some might cry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Lamp Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Admins aren't in the server to make it fun. They are there to keep dipshits from being dipshits and make playtime more enjoyable. What you view as "fun" some might cry about. We still want admins to have fun while doing their job. It's just that every time we "let loose" a bit, it gets out of hand. With a lot of our admins, we give them an inch and they take a mile, so to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdh Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 We still want admins to have fun while doing their job. It's just that every time we "let loose" a bit, it gets out of hand. With a lot of our admins, we give them an inch and they take a mile, so to say. Don't bring your porn metaphors here Lamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague! Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 We still want admins to have fun while doing their job. It's just that every time we "let loose" a bit, it gets out of hand. With a lot of our admins, we give them an inch and they take a mile, so to say. There's only so far you can go with knowing someone's rates :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackEyes Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I say make a script to auto-force rates to go to best as they can be. (If possible) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Lamp Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 There's only so far you can go with knowing someone's rates :/ A wannabe know-it-all admin could start kicking people if he thinks they are messing with their rates even though our servers are enforced with specific rate settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague! Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 A wannabe know-it-all admin could start kicking people if he thinks they are messing with their rates even though our servers are enforced with specific rate settings. Ah I see what you mean. Would still be really nice to have it though, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackEyes Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I see people go on office all the time with 5 latency and they're lagging like hell yet I type ping in console, in which ping is usually about 20 higher than latency and they are getting like 60 ping and what not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague! Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 I see people go on office all the time with 5 latency and they're lagging like hell yet I type ping in console, in which ping is usually about 20 higher than latency and they are getting like 60 ping and what not. Yeah, I've seen that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdh Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I see people go on office all the time with 5 latency and they're lagging like hell yet I type ping in console, in which ping is usually about 20 higher than latency and they are getting like 60 ping and what not. Yeah, I've seen that too. keke... 1) Latency is estimated by a poo Source Engine (see similar results in games like Tribes 1,2,3) 2) Latency will always be lower than ping since latency is an estimate of how long it takes your computer's data to reach the server, while the ping is the entire roundtrip (there and back), which suggests that in an ideal world: latency*2=ping. 3) A script or even simply a console command will display a very low and false latency. Its good for nothing but fooling people. I would put the command here or maybe write a script if alot of goobers wouldn't go using it every chance they got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 My latency is 5, and I don't believe anyone has ever complained about 'reg', or lag on me. I set my rates correctly every time i join the server, yet my ping is still always at 5. Even if I live this close to the server, should I still get 5 latency? before I stepped down from T1 to DSL, my ping would be at 1 at times. People complained saying I had a ping mask and I wouldn't even have 1 latency if I was in the room where the server was hosted. I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdh Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 My latency is 5, and I don't believe anyone has ever complained about 'reg', or lag on me. I set my rates correctly every time i join the server, yet my ping is still always at 5. Even if I live this close to the server, should I still get 5 latency? before I stepped down from T1 to DSL, my ping would be at 1 at times. People complained saying I had a ping mask and I wouldn't even have 1 latency if I was in the room where the server was hosted. I dunno. ^^^ See my reply above. The time it takes for a high speed connection to reach a server within a close distance = 5 latency AND....lets not forget...latency via the Source Engine of CSS is so shitty you might as well judge your latency by the number of kills you have o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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