Marine436 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Ive had alot of fun on this server over the last week and Change, specially when it was Low- Medium Pop. A good Portion of your Absurd Amount Of Admin's Are nice, And Friendly, but it appears that when the server Maxes out, the Ones that are Ass hats, Unforgiving and like to Punish and not teach new players come Out. Basically last night i was told by an admin (forget who, but i know Poison was on and witnessed it) told me i can Free kill, if i then kill my self (or next round if it's to Late) Durring last Rights of a Round, someone came up to me asking for my gun, being a Punk and being funny, obviously he was going to shoot me with it so i said 'oh you want me gun, here, here is my gun' and shot him with an Awp, i then killed my self, thinking i was legitimate, an admin Kicked me and Explained i couldnt do that, of course i was confused, the admins then team-locked me once i connected i finally got the answer after trying to figure out WTF for that it was that free-kill and i couldn't do that, i asked poison to back me up and was Surprisingly told 'not to use her name' Now where she did that cause she was in a bad Mood, or frustrated with a Full server Or scared of one of the jack-ass admins on at the time, i Don't know Now if this all wasn't enough one round while i was typing i was .2 seconds slow on doing what i was told and a Random CT shot Me (i wasn't doing anything hostile) no one did anything about that of Course. THEN 2 rounds (with one in the middle that was different) i got called out by the CT lead to leave my Cell and Executed. No one did anything about that Either. So here's a list of feedback, im doing so maybe in the future you can keep some people trying to learn and become apart of your community 1. Less admins 2. Admin's need a ranking system WE AS PLAYERS CAN SEE 3. Players need to be Ranked as well by Experience, admins expect me to know every fucking thing on day One. 4. be Nice 5. Be fair, ive seen so much shit where people get jumped on while other shit goes UN-PUNISHED 6. if someone is talking to Player A about what happened dont tell Player A to go to the forums if he wants to complain, he dropped the subject player B was asking about it. 7. give lead's control to Mute anyone for that Round. 8. have Lead's Slow down in talking. 9. Hey im sorry im not fucking Einstein , i have an English learning disability, i dont need fucking admin's already riding my case giving me shit over my shitty spelling ON THE INTERNET of all things As if i will return to this server i just dont freaking know at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 ........... Let's start with your misconception of the rule. Yes freekills require you slaying yourself. However the freekills we are talking about here are unintentional freekills that occur from discrepancies between what people think are the orders and what the orders actually are or similar situations. Shooting someone during LR cuz you think you're funny does not constitute this forgive and forget treatment. If such were the case, CTs could kill any T they want any round as long as they slayed themselves. Clearly this would lead to stupidity and is not at all the case. ACCIDENTAL freekills are forgivable by self-slays, until of course they go to like 4/5 "accidental" freekills. However INTENTIONAL freekills (ESPECIALLY DURING LR) result in punishment. You shot me for NO REASON during LR just to be funny. The round you were "executed," you were told to take ONE step out of your cell and face your back wall. You ran out to big cage and said "I'm over here." Obviously that is not following the order, so you were shot. And no we don't expect you to know "every fucking thing." We DO expect you to read the MOTD upon joining a new server as you should do with EVERY server. We also expect you to use COMMON SENSE with most matters, as that is all it really takes to play jailbreak. Common sense and the ability to shoot things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloImKevin Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 number one asian right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racker16 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 inb4 no one cares, whoops, too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poison.ivy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Other than what Laz said, I'm just gonna come in here and explain why I said not to use my name. I told you not to use it to defend your freekill. No type of freekilling is okay, even if you slay yourself afterward. There's a difference between intentional and knowing what the hell you're doing. Laz pretty much summed it up clearly for you. Read motd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine436 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 ........... Let's start with your misconception of the rule. Yes freekills require you slaying yourself. However the freekills we are talking about here are unintentional freekills that occur from discrepancies between what people think are the orders and what the orders actually are or similar situations. Shooting someone during LR cuz you think you're funny does not constitute this forgive and forget treatment. If such were the case, CTs could kill any T they want any round as long as they slayed themselves. Clearly this would lead to stupidity and is not at all the case. ACCIDENTAL freekills are forgivable by self-slays, until of course they go to like 4/5 "accidental" freekills. However INTENTIONAL freekills (ESPECIALLY DURING LR) result in punishment. You shot me for NO REASON during LR just to be funny. The round you were "executed," you were told to take ONE step out of your cell and face your back wall. You ran out to big cage and said "I'm over here." Obviously that is not following the order, so you were shot. And no we don't expect you to know "every fucking thing." We DO expect you to read the MOTD upon joining a new server as you should do with EVERY server. We also expect you to use COMMON SENSE with most matters, as that is all it really takes to play jailbreak. Common sense and the ability to shoot things. 1. i have no problem with the rule at all Nor am i trying to argue aginst it, the problem was it took a million steps for it to be explained to me 2. there was a damn smoke grenade blocking the cage so i wanted to be able to be seen, that situation was lose\lose and still Crap. i was already Kicked and team locked for me 'being funny' 3. the MOTD is very odd on my system i dont know why, No im not being lazy it displays but under 'server specific rules' it list just a red Line. My other Points still stand. oh and to the guy that posted 'no one cares' you should care, i mean after all, its your Community im just a damn guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racker16 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I should care that you are posting something completely illogical and useless? lets go over the feedback you feel that everyone should hear and how you believe the number one jailbreak server should be ran. 1. Less admins - Yeah less admins, so people can freekill and not get punished for it. People already complain about admins not doing their job 2. Admin's need a ranking system WE AS PLAYERS CAN SEE-how the fuck would you rank admins? and why would you want to in the first place, admins do what admins please. people do pay 15 dollars a month to be your slave admin, we pay it for our own benefits. 3. Players need to be Ranked as well by Experience, admins expect me to know every fucking thing on day One. - You are supposed to read the MOTD before you start playing, its a different server. You join any server and you will have to get used to rules and how the server is run. 4. be Nice- you seem like a huge instigator that probably bitched the whole time you played, why would people be nice to you if you don't return the favor. 5. Be fair, ive seen so much shit where people get jumped on while other shit goes UN-PUNISHED- Admins dont have 50 eyes to spec every player. shit happens, people get away with it. If you dont like it buy admin and deal with it, otherwise don't sit back and point fingers when you aren't doing anything to solve the problem. 6. if someone is talking to Player A about what happened dont tell Player A to go to the forums if he wants to complain, he dropped the subject player B was asking about it. - no one wants to hear you bitch about rules in the game, the forum is meant to discuss issues with rules or misconceptions of rules. 7. give lead's control to Mute anyone for that Round. - are you suddenly a coder now? do you have the scripts to give lead a menu to mute everyone? do you understand that anyone can get lead, and just mute anyone, causing even more problems for the admins on the servers? And what if lead gives illegal orders, if he mutes everyone, what then, who's going to tell him. 8. have Lead's Slow down in talking. - So many of your issues are personal issues, we cant control every person that plays jailbreak. and to be honest, if you take more then 15 seconds to get on your backbunk then you deserve to die. People want to play the round, they dont want to sit in their cell because you cant hear or understand the lead. Play the server for a hour, learn how to follow orders, problem solved. 9. Hey im sorry im not fucking Einstein , i have an English learning disability, i dont need fucking admin's already riding my case giving me shit over my shitty spelling ON THE INTERNET of all things - Once again you make it seem like all admins have a responsibility and also, ITS THE FUCKING INTERNET for all things, learn how not to get trolled by people, problem solved. You are a guest yes, but you dont understand anything about how admins, hellsgamers, or the server is run, so don't try and act like an expert and try to tell the staff how to run the number one jailbreak server, because obviously its one of the most popular servers out there the way it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine436 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 your kinda proving my point on some things, or at least on hostile admins your assuming im an instigator something you have zero proof on and are assuming i wont (Unless you request) go over the other points bit by bit as you dont seem very interested just a few things besides the instigator thing being the biggest doesnt mean 'being number 1' China has the most people it does make it 'the #1 country' you could easily make lead only accessible by experienced players you give admin to anyone who pays 15 bucks? (i didnt know that.) you also need to re-read 6, i had droped the subject and was approached by someone as for not getting trolled on the net? seems kinda of just this huge thing your using to cover up some of the less-than-perfect parts of your community anyways i never wanted to argue, but alot of the gameplay things you put on 'my fault' (And admittedly im not perfect and some may be just that) could be solved however with some scripts. and once more on the MOTD comment, i explained that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racker16 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I diddnt really prove anything, and yeah I said you seem like an instigator. You're assuming you know whats best for the server when really you dont have any clue. Yes we are the most popular jailbreak server so yes I'd say we are the number one server, its like saying a movie was number one over the weekend because it had the most views or made the most money. You're starting over-analyze because you realize how many flaws are in the points you are making. Why would we only make lead accessible to experienced players, the best way to learn how to lead is to lead. People who play jailbreak from months without leading, still wont learn how to have successful days until they start leading. And how do you determine who gets to lead and who doesn't? 3/4 of your ideas are impractical and illogical frankly. Why don't you play on the servers for a bit longer then what, two days? before telling us how to run the server and pointing out so called flaws in our community, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 tl;dr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJoy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I'm sorry but the system we have works. It has worked for several years. We have people buy admin ..if they abuse it ..it is taken away. But really, our human resource department is on vacation ...forever. Sorry you had a "bag" experience .. Basically last night i was told by an admin (forget who, but i know Poison was on and witnessed it) told me i can Free kill, if i then kill my self (or next round if it's to Late) Lies. You CANNOT freekill (unless you freekill Laz <3) The best thing you CAN do is get proof (ie: SS/demo) of admins doing wrong ...post on the forums and let Staff and Council take care of it. You wrote a pretty nice essay here ..BUT nothing can happen without proof ..names ..steamIDs .. Also ..that MOTD ..read it. Learn it ..love it. k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine436 Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 Its very Chaotic when its full It wasent my first day MOTD doesnt work ethier i im a moron, or i dont have something on my recently formated system set up right, i dont know. im learning just by doing i know (at this point) 90%ish of the rules i feel confident to Say. I guess what it really comes down to is i was punished twice for One crime, a crime i was told wasent a crime, but its fine ive learned and moved on This server is werid, ill keep giving it a chance i suppose though also "K" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tin Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I think it's as simple as l2ct. Don't play CT if you are a fucking derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 You CANNOT freekill (unless you freekill Laz <3) Oddly enough, that's what happened. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJoy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Alright, since this problem is resolved, I'm closing this thread. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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