Plague! Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) "Razorwolf" STEAM_0:1:14222713 office. walls. 2 demos, http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0c70a73794cb6ae47069484bded33bcd2b5246e6177fc790 in the first one, watch how he goes straight for the guy in paper, then dicks around and fails horribly at throwing nades, but can peek perfectly.. and how he peeks the 2 guys in T spawn, especially the one near crack. Also in the first demo. i'm talking to the viewer of the demo in spec in the second demo, watch how he peeks deagle perfectly mutiple times in stairs, then peeks a few more people perfectly in the same round. Someone will be in one spot, then move, razor skips the old spot and peeks the new spot, MULTIPLE times. PERMbanPLEASE Edited May 15, 2009 by Plague! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangled Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 razor is legit, hes good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilley Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) im with mangled all the demos proved was that he gets some lucky scout kills, and misses alot Edited May 15, 2009 by Tilley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Husky Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 The two demos don't prove anything. After you played office for how many months, naturally you could anticipate or expect where the enemies might be. This means that certain corners would be considered as "hot spots". As for "peeking around corners just fine" statement, all I can say is that such statement doesn't prove anything. People mis-timed the grenade tossing. It's nothing to be surprised about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 razors a friend of mine on here. hes a mature gamer who i belive never has hacked and always is a good sport. and the demos dont show anything i belive. he also has bose headset that mught be one of the reasons u think he hax cause he can hear almsot everythin goin on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 He dosn't hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague! Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) He dosn't hack doesn't* ban for bad spelling ! ANYWAY, so a kid, who misses a LOT, can't throw a nade to save his life, and doesn't know what to do when flashed.. Peeks people perfectly? Anyone who has played this game a long time should know, as you get better, you get better AT ALL THINGS, not just being able to peek. lmao gg. Edited May 15, 2009 by Plague! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangled Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 i dont see this so called perfect peaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilley Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 If you think he hacks, report him to VAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FukLife Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 i have reviewed both demo's. I have been playing CSS since 1.3 about 8 years now. And i seen every hack out there basically. You can ezily tell he was walling i don't care what anyone says he was deffinitly walling. As Plague said He knows were everyone is at every corner he peeks. I know yes i agree you might know hot spots in maps when you play them alot. But I'm sorry When you peek corners though and know exactually were the person is without it even showing on the your screen as shown on the demo Your Deffinitly a Waller!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIR--_ Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 the first demo is crap. the second demo however tells a little story. double scopes exactly when HT | - (w/e his name is) pops out in front hall when hes in front stairs? double scopes exactly into that guys body in long hall? scopes right into that guy in T Spawn when hes in main hall? rewatch the second demo and give me a reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JJK Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 id say 60% of css'ers haev some sort of cehat / esp goign on so if we ban him theres a better chance we did teh right thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilley Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 i have reviewed both demo's. I have been playing CSS since 1.3 about 8 years now. And i seen every hack out there basically. You can ezily tell he was walling i don't care what anyone says he was deffinitly walling. As Plague said He knows were everyone is at every corner he peeks. I know yes i agree you might know hot spots in maps when you play them alot. But I'm sorry When you peek corners though and know exactually were the person is without it even showing on the your screen as shown on the demo Your Deffinitly a Waller!!! Do you know what latancy or ping is? If razor were to record a POV demo and it showed an elbow when he peaks, you would say it was a nice shot. But if a spectator recorded a demo it wouldnt show it til he shot or if it were to show it at all. That is why leagues do not accept TV demos as proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilley Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I think the long hall shot is not a valid arguement from a spectator demo, because of ping issues. I dont see a problem with the last one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) I know my opinion doesnt matter much to most of HG but I know he doesnt wall. He's amazing with the scout, this is true. I watched these demos, they more so prove he DOESNT wall then he does. Epsecially the second one, where he has the scout. He gets a lucky headshot on a guy running into stairs, and then kills a guy with a couple shots, then dies to a guy in a place he SHOULD have peeked. Had he been walling, he would have killed that guy, shot at that guy, or even LOOKED at that guy. This is definite proof he's NOT walling. In the first demo the only part where Mr. Plague was bitching that might have even been misunderstood as walling was when he peaked elbow. He peeked one side, then peeked the other! This isnt walls! This is being cautious! He checked one side, then checked the other. Notice how he DIDNT get a good shot, because his shot was aimed too high. Why would some one that walls not be able to aim at the head if he knows where the guy is going to be? Why would he check the first side if he "knew" the guy wasnt going to be there. Another spot where the plague said something in spec chat was where razor SAW a guy, I saw him on the vid, and then ducked out, peeked back to shoot and then the comments came. Seeing a person on the screen is definitely not hacking. I've known cheaters, seen them use walls. Seen how people act with walls. Razor has played for so long on the server, I've play many many games with him. Been shot in the head by the craziest scout head shot from him. And I KNOW he doesnt hack. He's good. He's cautious. He checks spots where people hide. If you're good you'd do the same. He DOES NOT cheat. Edited May 15, 2009 by negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deag1e Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) im sorry ryan but watching the demo with r_drawothermodels on shows nothing but a descent player in office. after playing servers for a while you learn where people camp so you peak those spots and anticipating they are there. if he walls he would have saw that guy on the cabients in demo4 but he didnt and died to him. are you saying people are not allowed to peak known spots. i expected better proof from some one who has admittedly use to hack, but doesn't any more due to getting vac banned for those hacks. the name you were under was jetta is cute. and we were arguing about you accusing razor of walling once again. (ADMIN ONLY) Jetta is cute: why wouldn't you believe me lmaoe (ADMIN ONLY) Jetta is cute: i used to wall, i know shit (ADMIN ONLY) Jetta is cute: hell i used to do more than wall (ADMIN ONLY) Jetta is cute: i know what everything looks like and ps girl im HT | people that are sniping that dont trust single scoping and need more assurance tend to double scope so their is less error. you ever think the person i was shooting at in front office called i was there and razor was aiming for me?? or maybe i was on radar? Edited May 15, 2009 by Deag1e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorwolf Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Thanks very much for the support guys. As someone who has played office almost exlusively since late '06, I certainly know all the common hiding spots. Deag1e still manages to sneak in a few new ones from time to time, though. I play office simply because I find it the most enjoyable unless deag1e and/or tasset are awping >=( I prefer Office_Extended as that was the map I played on for so long, but there isn't a good one left after Insom Gaming went down, so I stick with HG. I enjoy playing here, and thanks to many of the comments I've seen today in this post, I see that many enjoy my company on the server. Again, thanks for the support everyone, • Razorwolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambush Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Not enough for a perm ban sorry... just don't see it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantBeFaded Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I don't see hax just a good player who is well versed on the office map......i am gonna say not banned.... just know that we will be watching you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackEyes Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 If you think he hacks, report him to VAC VAC is gay like CEVO, they have to detect the hack not get perfect proof of them hacking with a demo or anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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