poison.ivy Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) The Ultimate Flapjack [cooking] STEAM_0:1:22363452 Jailbreak Douchebaggery Proof: http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/nh/picture_54.png http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/8w/picture_53.png http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/79/picture_52.png http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/pc/picture_51.png Explanation: Was tswitched (not listed) for fking numerous times, loads of complaints, etc. Instigates a fight with admins, was warned by Racker and me to quit it, kept continuing over a few rounds, got kicked, and banned. Edited August 12, 2011 by Papa John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateFlapjack Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I'm not exactly sure why I made an account because I know that any type of counterargument or explanation that I give will just be cast aside in order for the admins to be seen as the righteous. Here is the story, if you want to read it fine if not that is fine too, but I feel that I need to be cleared of my conviction. I was on the CT side and just doing my duty of shooting the red=dead and the people not following orders. At the point in time of the game I had been in the server for about 30 minutes and had not received any "warnings" or "complaints' of any kinds. The T's were told to go to the bottom of cell stairs and freeze upon arrival. After the usual "What do the T's want to do today," they were told to crouch to the closest corner of sauna. Now, without even crouching first, a T does a run and jump from the mass of T's and then crouched. I shot him and after this somebody started screaming "Free Kill." I told them that he ran before he crouched and they still kept repeating "FK." Before an admin said I should slay myself I gave my reasoning to why I killed in the first place. Then an admin says "well...you should slay yourself anyways because I didn't see it." This tells me that this admin is just going to take the side of the T even though there is no evidence that I did anything wrong in the first place. I continue to watch the T's and Poison tells me I should slay myself or I will do it for you. I say "you can do it." That was it. She then slays and team-switches me and says that my "attitude" is what got me switched. What happened to the rules on the server? No warning, no nothing? Now, I can see that you would team-switch me if I said "go ahead and fucking do it" or something of that nature, but it is so hard to judge a person's emotions behind their sentences online. I merely said was "you can do it" because she said she would. What got me next was when I said "why was I switched? That was only a first offense of FK" (even though I didn't). She says "wait for a spot to be open and switch teams." I said "can't you switch me, you're and admin?" This is when she says that she pays for the admin and that it isn't here "job" to switch people, only to kick and ban when necessary. I go on to say that the job of an admin is to "regulate the server" and then all hell breaks loose at this point. Another admin, [HG] Racker16, starts chiming his word in and once an admin gets backed up by another admin, they feel they can do anything they want and get away with it. I say that she is a "finger happy admin" and after that she kicks me whilst saying "is this finger happy for you" (meant to say trigger happy). I return and at this point I say "maybe I should buy admin, so that way I can argue and not get kicked." That's when Racker says "I would ban you anyways, for being so annoying." I'm not sure what is up with your admins, but they certainly take everything personally and because of this they start abusing their powers without any regard for the server rules. It should have been a clue that maybe if someone is willing to buy admin to defend their side without being kicked/banned, that something is up with the admins where they won't even let the players speak. I continue to play and begin talking with another player on the server "not even an admin" about how players don't even get their chance to defend themselves and Poison says "listen flapjack you keep instigating and you're gone, take it and shut up or leave." Can a player no longer communicate to another player on this server without being hassled by an admin? I say "I wasn't talking to you poison, let me have a discussion in peace." She then says "just doing my "job" as an admin," and I respond saying "and now you do your "job", fuck, you're more of a bitch than I thought." That was a little harsh but I was so fed up that I could not play the server as a "player" without having this admin breathing down my neck. I was doing nothing wrong by discussing what happened with another player. Does it not seem obvious that Poison was acting this way out of spite rather than out of misconduct because of a player? The fact that she said that its not her job to regulate the server and then goes on to say that now she's ready to do her "job" because she wants a player gone that rubbed her the wrong way but did nothing that was against server rules. Its just such a total clusterfuck when it comes to admins and their emotions. I have been in the server countless times and have seen admins "bully" players so they can have a reason to kick/ban them. Its the admins that are doing the instigating, not the players. Yes I rejoined with the name "I dont give a fuck Poison=bitch," take that for what you will, but please look at this story as a larger picture of what happens on this server every single day. A lot of the admins need to learn to control their temper and learn to use their powers to, as the server rules state, "Use your powers to keep the server fun" but not just for their own pleasure; but rather for the pleasure of everyone who is on the server. Here are some screenshots from the ordeal just so that I don't look like a bad guy http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/qz/1.png http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/6s/2.png http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/ef/3.png http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/pv/4.png http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/bx/5.png Take this story what you will. I have a feeling that everyone is going to jump to aid of the admin anyways. PEACE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poison.ivy Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 tl;dr go through his chat logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateFlapjack Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 By not reading the story, you are missing the entire point of the article. I have said my side of the story, this is your time to tell your side of the story Poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poison.ivy Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 1. ppl were complaining, i dead speced you, noticed you're a trigger happy fuck and you fk without giving a shit. had an attitude saying "you do it, i wont slay myself", hence the slay and switch. 2. i didn't kick you. racker did cause you called him a trigger happy admin. 3. you took it personally by commenting on how the admins in JB weren't doing their "jobs". if you have a problem with it, make a demo, post a report. don't drag the entire server down with your shitty attitude. you instigated the entire thing for more than a few rounds, therefore me telling you to shut the fuck up. you didn't, hence this post. now, i'll wait for staff to review this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 If you have a problem with an admin, get a demo and post here on the forums. Bullying is NOT tolerated, and should be reported if witnessed. As far as what is going on between you two, but it needs to end. Like now. Flapjack, if you find yourself getting pissed off or upset about how a certian admin does things, then there is no dishonor in taking a break. Also, try talking it out before letting the rage set in. Spamming admin chat or whatever it is you do to try and get your message across is not necessary. As far as what you changed your name to, that is completely unnecessary and I would appreciate it if you refrain from that. As far as Poison, I don't see anything that she nor Racker did wrong. The one thing I would like to suggest is that next time, don't let the argument draw out that long. If someone needs to get banned for douchebaggery, make sure you have everything you need and do it, instead of getting into a pissing match. As far as admins "doing their job", if someone purchases admin, they have the option to not enforce the rules. It's up to them, so yea there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateFlapjack Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Is by me posting not enough to show I have a problem with an admin Cosmos? As far as bullying, look at my second link, Racker is threatening that even if I purchase admin thal he'll ban me on the premise of being annoying (his opinion). That is some serious bullying and can't be underlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 No, if you have a problem with an admin, we have an abuse section for you to utilize. I wasn't in game, so I don't know exactly what was happening between you and Racker, other than you guys disagreeing about something. If he is doing something wrong, get a demo. If you guys are disagreeing about something, talk it out. If you can't agree, then stop talking about it and dont let it turn into a major argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateFlapjack Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Cosmos, read the text. What he said is bullying and he jumped in when poison and I were talking. He had no reason to talk. I had a feeling this would all go in vein but this just proves that admins don't have the balls to reprimand other admins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 We are not going to get into a philisophical debate as to what is considered bullying or not. As far as him jumping in, he has a right to type whatever he chooses to. We have no set policy on who can type when. If you feel he was doing something wrong, this is the incorrect forum to make an argument. Closing this at this time for final say from Division Managers and/or Leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa John Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 "I dont give a fuck Poison=Bitch" was a name you changed to, and you would still like to contend that admins had no reason for taking aggression against you? Also as a little policy FYI paid admins don't have to technically do anything with that admin that they purchase and they can choose to act on (or ignore) any situations they so choose too (making your "admin" definition incorrect). Seeing as you decided to pull the exact same stunt last year your ban has been extended to a week. Try and learn during that time to respect admins (and other players) in the server or gtfo. If you want to roll the dice with an abuse report you are more then welcome to make one, however ensure that you actually have proof of abuse taking place. Temp-Banned. Thanks for the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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