Ploot Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 (edited) Druid: Restoration: Int/spirit items with haste on them, they cannot use shields. Reforge items out of hit and crit first. Reforging: prioritize spirit to between 2000-2200 depending on your playstyle and prioritize haste until you can reach the breakpoint of ~2006 rating then dump all into mastery. Feral Kitty: Agi items with mastery and haste on them, 2h polearms are the weapons Reforging: prioritize mastery and haste, unlike any other spec that deals damage a feral kitty does not necessarily need to be hit OR expertise cap. reforge out of hit and expertise as well as crit. Feral Bear: Agi items with crit/expertise/mastery on them. reforge everything into dodge, 2h polearms as well Reforging: prioritize mastery and crit, at higher item levels expertise becomes more important than crit. reforge out of haste wherever possible. Balance (Boomkin): Same thing as restoration druids Reforging: prioritize haste and mastery, once you achieve hit cap (1742 rating) reforge any extra hit or spirit into haste. reforge crit into hit if needed otherwise go to haste. Paladin: Holy: Int/spirit items with haste on them, they CAN use shields Reforging: if an item has spirit, reforge into haste. if an item has no spirit, reforge mastery or crit into spirit. if an item has no spirit or haste reforge mastery into spirit. Protection: Str items with mastery/parry/dodge on them. Tanks with a 1h and shield Reforging: if an item doesn't have mastery, reforge the stat that will give you the biggest mastery gain into mastery, even if it means doing parry->mastery. ideally your parry/dodge should be equal but if this is not the case reforge any extreme gains in one to the other, IE if your dodge is 16% and your parry is 20% reforge your parry into dodge until they are about even. Retribution: Str items with mastery on them. 2h str/sta weapon is their deal Reforging: get yourself to 8% hit cap and 26 expertise cap. reforge crit or haste first, there is a debate whether crit or haste is more beneficial to ret paladins but all are in agreement that mastery is the strongest secondary stat. when in doubt, reforge into mastery. Hunter: Marksmanship/Beast Mastery: Agi items with crit and haste on them. Bow/Crossbow/Gun and a 2H AGI STICK is preffered for their weapons Reforging: get to 8% hit after that, items that don't have crit reforge mastery into crit. on items with crit, reforge into haste. Survival: Agi items with crit/haste/mastery on them. Weapons are same as MM/BM Reforging: get to 8% hit after that, get to 20% haste (with the 10% from the spec) then prioritize crit and mastery. Warrior: Fury: Str items with crit and, depending on Titan's Grip (dual 2h) or Single Minded Fury, either hit or mastery on them. Pending on the selected talent either Dual 2h or Dual 1handers with str/sta one them Reforging for Titan's Grip: get to 8% hit then 26 expertise then prioritize crit and mastery, reforge out of haste where applicable. Reforging for Single Minded Fury: get to 8% hit then 26 expertise then prioritize crit and hit. reforge out of mastery where applicable Protection: See Paladin: Protection Reforging: Almost identical to paladin's however parry is a stronger stat for warrior's because of their "Hold the Line" proc. try to not reforge out of parry. Arms: Str items with crit/mastery on them. A single 2h is their deal. Reforging: get to 8% hit then, if you are stance dancing, get to 26 expertise. if you are not stance dancing get to 8% hit and then prioritize crit and mastery. reforge out of haste where applicable. Warlock: Affliction/Destruction: Int items with haste/crit on them. Use the felhunter for affliction and the imp for destruction Reforging: get to 17% hit (1742 rating) then prioritize haste and crit. reforge out of mastery where you can. Demonology: Int items with mastery/crit on them. Use felhunter for single target and felguard for AoE situations Reforging: get to 17% hit (1742 rating) then prioritize mastery and crit. reforge out of haste where you can. Death Knight: Frost/Unholy: Str items with haste/mastery on them. Frost can either use 2 1handers or a 2hander. Unholy is strictly a 2h weapon spec Reforging Frost: get to 8% then 26 expertise, then prioritize haste and mastery. reforge out of crit where applicable Reforging Unholy: get to 8% hit then prioritize haste and mastery. reforge out of crit and expertise where applicable. Blood: Str items with mastery/parry/dodge on them. Expertise and Hit are more useful for the blood DK than other tanks until the 4.3 patch. Use a 2h str/sta weapon when using this spec. Reforging pre-4.3: hit to 8% and 26 expertise then prioritize mastery. reforge the DPS stat off your weapon into mastery or dodge if it already has mastery on it. Rogue: Subtlety: Agi items with haste/crit on them. Use 2 daggers with this spec, a fast offhand and medium (1.8) speed mainhand. Reforging: get to 8% hit then you want haste and to achieve the 26 expertise cap. once expertise cap'd prioritize haste and crit. reforge out of mastery where you can. Combat: Agi items with haste/hit on them. Use a slow agility 1hander in the mainhand and a faster (1.4 weapon speed) dagger in the offhand Reforging: get to 8% then 26 expertise, then prioritize haste and hit (up to 17%). if you reach the 17% hit rating then you want mastery. reforge out of crit where you can. Assassination: Agi items with haste/mastery/hit on them. Like subtlety, use 2 daggers for this spec, a fast offhand and medium (1.8) speed mainhand. Reforging: get to 17% hit (1742 rating) then prioritize haste and mastery. reforge out of expertise and crit where you can. Mage: Fire/Frost: Int items with haste/crit on them. Reforging Fire: get to 17% hit then prioritize haste and crit. reforge out of extra hit and mastery where you can Reforging Frost: get to 17% hit then get crit up to 33.33% (soft cap) then prioritize haste and mastery. reforge out of extra hit and crit Arcane: Int items with mastery/crit on them. Reforging: get to 17% hit then prioritize mastery and crit. reforge out of haste where you can. Priest: Holy: Int/Spirit items with haste on them. pending on how you want to gear, mastery is not bad either. Reforging: as holy priest, spirit is your best friend. if a piece doesn't have spirit, reforge crit into spirit. if a piece has spirit but no haste, reforge into haste. see holy paladin reforging if you're lost Discipline: Int/Spirit items with mastery on them. Reforging: spirit is not as important to a disc priest as a holy. get as much spirit as you are comfortable with, i personally use 2000 on mine, and then reforge everything into mastery and crit. reforge out of haste if you are comfortable with your casting speed. Shadow: Refer to holy priests on how to gear. Reforging: see Boomkin for how to reforge. Shaman: Restoration: Int/Spirit items with haste/mastey on them. Shamans are able to use shields for their resto and elemental specs Reforging: spirit, get it. lots of it. then prioritize haste to ~916 rating and then its up to you. haste is more helpful to 10m guilds while mastery shines in 25m guilds. your playstyle while dictate what to want. Elemental: Refer to restoration Reforging: refer to shadow priest or boomkin Enhancement: Agi items with crit/mastery on them. Enhancement shamans should use 2 slow agility 1 handed weapons. Reforging: get to 17% spell hit THEN 26 expertise, then prioritize mastery and crit. avoid haste like the plague. *Credits To Blu because im lazy and dont want to type* *EDIT* http://www.curse.com/client A Add-On Client that lets you modify how your WoW In-Game is set up and also with Add-Ons such as DBM(Deadly Boss Mods)Which are required to have when it comes to doing instances(Dungeon/5mans) and raiding. *EDIT* As stated by Jella, if you ever need a build or need to search something, you can either go to - http://www.wowhead.com or - http://www.elitistjerks.com *EDIT* For Reforging, just download Reforgelite and choose your class/TalentSpec and it will auto set it for you, but will require a certain amount of gold. Edited November 28, 2011 by Ploot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluHorse Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 (edited) Druid: Restoration: Int/spirit items with haste on them, they cannot use shields. Reforge items out of hit and crit first. Reforging: prioritize spirit to between 2000-2200 depending on your playstyle and prioritize haste until you can reach the breakpoint of ~2006 rating then dump all into mastery. Feral Kitty: Agi items with mastery and haste on them, 2h polearms are the weapons Reforging: prioritize mastery and haste, unlike any other spec that deals damage a feral kitty does not necessarily need to be hit OR expertise cap. reforge out of hit and expertise as well as crit. Feral Bear: Agi items with crit/expertise/mastery on them. reforge everything into dodge, 2h polearms as well Reforging: prioritize mastery and crit, at higher item levels expertise becomes more important than crit. reforge out of haste wherever possible. Balance (Boomkin): Same thing as restoration druids Reforging: prioritize haste and mastery, once you achieve hit cap (1742 rating) reforge any extra hit or spirit into haste. reforge crit into hit if needed otherwise go to haste. Paladin: Holy: Int/spirit items with haste on them, they CAN use shields Reforging: if an item has spirit, reforge into haste. if an item has no spirit, reforge mastery or crit into spirit. if an item has no spirit or haste reforge mastery into spirit. Protection: Str items with mastery/parry/dodge on them. Tanks with a 1h and shield Reforging: if an item doesn't have mastery, reforge the stat that will give you the biggest mastery gain into mastery, even if it means doing parry->mastery. ideally your parry/dodge should be equal but if this is not the case reforge any extreme gains in one to the other, IE if your dodge is 16% and your parry is 20% reforge your parry into dodge until they are about even. Retribution: Str items with mastery on them. 2h str/sta weapon is their deal Reforging: get yourself to 8% hit cap and 26 expertise cap. reforge crit or haste first, there is a debate whether crit or haste is more beneficial to ret paladins but all are in agreement that mastery is the strongest secondary stat. when in doubt, reforge into mastery. Hunter: Marksmanship/Beast Mastery: Agi items with crit and haste on them. Bow/Crossbow/Gun and a 2H AGI STICK is preffered for their weapons Reforging: get to 8% hit after that, items that don't have crit reforge mastery into crit. on items with crit, reforge into haste. Survival: Agi items with crit/haste/mastery on them. Weapons are same as MM/BM Reforging: get to 8% hit after that, get to 20% haste (with the 10% from the spec) then prioritize crit and mastery. Warrior: Fury: Str items with crit and, depending on Titan's Grip (dual 2h) or Single Minded Fury, either hit or mastery on them. Pending on the selected talent either Dual 2h or Dual 1handers with str/sta one them Reforging for Titan's Grip: get to 8% hit then 26 expertise then prioritize crit and mastery, reforge out of haste where applicable. Reforging for Single Minded Fury: get to 8% hit then 26 expertise then prioritize crit and hit. reforge out of mastery where applicable Protection: See Paladin: Protection Reforging: Almost identical to paladin's however parry is a stronger stat for warrior's because of their "Hold the Line" proc. try to not reforge out of parry. Arms: Str items with crit/mastery on them. A single 2h is their deal. Reforging: get to 8% hit then, if you are stance dancing, get to 26 expertise. if you are not stance dancing get to 8% hit and then prioritize crit and mastery. reforge out of haste where applicable. Warlock: Affliction/Destruction: Int items with haste/crit on them. Use the felhunter for affliction and the imp for destruction Reforging: get to 17% hit (1742 rating) then prioritize haste and crit. reforge out of mastery where you can. Demonology: Int items with mastery/crit on them. Use felhunter for single target and felguard for AoE situations Reforging: get to 17% hit (1742 rating) then prioritize mastery and crit. reforge out of haste where you can. Death Knight: Frost/Unholy: Str items with haste/mastery on them. Frost can either use 2 1handers or a 2hander. Unholy is strictly a 2h weapon spec Reforging Frost: get to 8% then 26 expertise, then prioritize haste and mastery. reforge out of crit where applicable Reforging Unholy: get to 8% hit then prioritize haste and mastery. reforge out of crit and expertise where applicable. Blood: Str items with mastery/parry/dodge on them. Expertise and Hit are more useful for the blood DK than other tanks until the 4.3 patch. Use a 2h str/sta weapon when using this spec. Reforging pre-4.3: hit to 8% and 26 expertise then prioritize mastery. reforge the DPS stat off your weapon into mastery or dodge if it already has mastery on it. Rogue: Subtlety: Agi items with haste/crit on them. Use 2 daggers with this spec, a fast offhand and medium (1.8) speed mainhand. Reforging: get to 8% hit then you want haste and to achieve the 26 expertise cap. once expertise cap'd prioritize haste and crit. reforge out of mastery where you can. Combat: Agi items with haste/hit on them. Use a slow agility 1hander in the mainhand and a faster (1.4 weapon speed) dagger in the offhand Reforging: get to 8% then 26 expertise, then prioritize haste and hit (up to 17%). if you reach the 17% hit rating then you want mastery. reforge out of crit where you can. Assassination: Agi items with haste/mastery/hit on them. Like subtlety, use 2 daggers for this spec, a fast offhand and medium (1.8) speed mainhand. Reforging: get to 17% hit (1742 rating) then prioritize haste and mastery. reforge out of expertise and crit where you can. Mage: Fire/Frost: Int items with haste/crit on them. Reforging Fire: get to 17% hit then prioritize haste and crit. reforge out of extra hit and mastery where you can Reforging Frost: get to 17% hit then get crit up to 33.33% (soft cap) then prioritize haste and mastery. reforge out of extra hit and crit Arcane: Int items with mastery/crit on them. Reforging: get to 17% hit then prioritize mastery and crit. reforge out of haste where you can. Priest: Holy: Int/Spirit items with haste on them. pending on how you want to gear, mastery is not bad either. Reforging: as holy priest, spirit is your best friend. if a piece doesn't have spirit, reforge crit into spirit. if a piece has spirit but no haste, reforge into haste. see holy paladin reforging if you're lost Discipline: Int/Spirit items with mastery on them. Reforging: spirit is not as important to a disc priest as a holy. get as much spirit as you are comfortable with, i personally use 2000 on mine, and then reforge everything into mastery and crit. reforge out of haste if you are comfortable with your casting speed. Shadow: Refer to holy priests on how to gear. Reforging: see Boomkin for how to reforge. Shaman: Restoration: Int/Spirit items with haste/mastey on them. Shamans are able to use shields for their resto and elemental specs Reforging: spirit, get it. lots of it. then prioritize haste to ~916 rating and then its up to you. haste is more helpful to 10m guilds while mastery shines in 25m guilds. your playstyle while dictate what to want. Elemental: Refer to restoration Reforging: refer to shadow priest or boomkin Enhancement: Agi items with crit/mastery on them. Enhancement shamans should use 2 slow agility 1 handed weapons. Reforging: get to 17% spell hit THEN 26 expertise, then prioritize mastery and crit. avoid haste like the plague. Note: All classes with a healing spec that have a caster intensive dps spec have the benefit of turning spirit->hit so less spirit is required for Shadow Priests/Elemental Shamans/Boomkins Note2: Abbreviation used: Agi=Agility Str=Strength Int=Intellect Crit=Critical Strike Sta=Stamina 2h=2 handed 1h=1 handed slow=2.6+ attack speed faster=1.4 or slower attack speed Note3: how much spirit is enough? words of a wise healer: "get enough spirit to where you are comfortably not going OOM super fast and then get a little more" Edited November 27, 2011 by BluHorse Reforgings added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delink Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 comming up with reforge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExGBrian Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 So whats the best class for a starter? Nothing too complicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jella Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) The addons I use. There are a ton for every little thing. Curse has a host of them, so you can look up addons for things like specific classes and such. Recount - Recount is a damage meter addon for World of Warcraft. The addon views activity in the combat log, and uses that information to provide tables and graphs showing the damage and healing distribution of a group or raid. (tracks things like DPS, total damage done, healing done, etc. over a single fight or a bunch of fights) Deadly Boss Mods - Deadly Boss Mods is a boss alert mod. It consists of many individual "boss modules", mini addons that are designed to trigger alert messages and timer bars for one specific raid boss each. Instance modules will be loaded and enabled when you enter the corresponding instance. In most cases only one module will be running at any given time. Healbot - An Add On for healer classes used to provide a more efficient interface for healers during gameplay. Reforgelite - ReforgeLite is a lightweight reforging calculator that helps you figure out the optimal strategy to reforge your gear given your stat weights and caps without leaving the game. Gatherer - Gatherer is an addon for herbalists, miners and treasure hunters in World of Warcraft. It's main purpose is to track the closest plants, deposits and treasure locations on your minimap. ----- Elitist Jerks is a great site to find detailed information on all the classes. Info includes, stat maximization, talent trees, glyphs, rotations, etc. All that good, nerdy stuff Edited November 27, 2011 by Jella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ploot Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 The addons I use. There are a ton for every little thing. Curse has a host of them, so you can look up addons for things like specific classes and such. Recount - Recount is a damage meter addon for World of Warcraft. The addon views activity in the combat log, and uses that information to provide tables and graphs showing the damage and healing distribution of a group or raid. (tracks things like DPS, total damage done, healing done, etc. over a single fight or a bunch of fights) Deadly Boss Mods - Deadly Boss Mods is a boss alert mod. It consists of many individual "boss modules", mini addons that are designed to trigger alert messages and timer bars for one specific raid boss each. Instance modules will be loaded and enabled when you enter the corresponding instance. In most cases only one module will be running at any given time. Healbot - An Add On for healer classes used to provide a more efficient interface for healers during gameplay. Reforgelite - ReforgeLite is a lightweight reforging calculator that helps you figure out the optimal strategy to reforge your gear given your stat weights and caps without leaving the game. Gatherer - Gatherer is an addon for herbalists, miners and treasure hunters in World of Warcraft. It's main purpose is to track the closest plants, deposits and treasure locations on your minimap. ----- Elitist Jerks is a great site to find detailed information on all the classes. Info includes, stat maximization, talent trees, glyphs, rotations, etc. All that good, nerdy stuff HEALBOT BADDIE GO BACK TO DARK IRON POOPER SCOOPER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluHorse Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 So whats the best class for a starter? Nothing too complicated nothing too complex? i'd say play either a mage (arcane spec) or play a warrior (arms isn't too complex). Thats my opinion, but in the end its your choice and your playstyle that'll dictate what you find "fun" comming up with reforge? if you want i can update my original post to have all reforges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ploot Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Decided to take your crap because its more neat and im lazy, all credits go to you. And for Reforges just get Reforgelite and you're good to go, which i didnt found out until jacob told me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jella Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Decided to take your crap because its more neat and im lazy, all credits go to you.And for Reforges just get Reforgelite and you're good to go, which i didnt found out until jacob told me Colour code it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teh_g Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Unsticking and closing as this is all excruciatingly out of date. http://www.noxxic.com has most info and is up to date if you need something now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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