Mikeo Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Tanky Attack Damage Garen Request (confused wut to buy!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluHorse Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 tanky ad? like a bruiser? i was thinking something like my wukong build would work on him. boots + 3 pots double doran's boots 2 (or swifties if you're kicking heads in) trinity force (sheen proc off his q) last whisper warmog's atma's IE i don't even know how to build garen and the IE is only for the extra crit on his spin. this probably won't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BranHorse Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Just play yorick. No but really most garens i see usually rush IE (don't know why). I actually might play some top garen tonight, so ill let you know what i think is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Oddly enough Garen is one of the few champs that I faceroll Yorick with. His spin now does 75% to minions meaning ghouls are quick work. His silence and spin are impossible to get away from as Yorick has no blink/dash to escape with. As for a build, Garen is more built on total AD rather than bonus AD now that they changed his judgement back. As such, building gradual AD into late is better now than building quick AD (Brutalizer, IE) early. Also Armor Pen is his new favorite stat, not AD. Runes: Arpen Red Armor Yellow Scaling MR Blue MS/AD/Arpen/Armor Quints (in order of what I think is best) Masteries: 9-21-0 is usually best for Garen, though 19-11-0 is good too. For 9-21-0, take the 10% armor pen, movement speed (from "Initiator"), reduced minion and base damage, and improved offensive summoners. For 19-11-0, take the 10% armor pen, the 6 flat armor pen, the scaling AD, and damage reduction from minions and attacks. The 19-11-0 page can be found here as seen on this thread. Summoners: Ignite and Flash. Meta sheep. Items: Boots and Potions (Cloth and Potions is ok too against matchups with FULL physical burst like Riven, Jax, and Wukong) Heart of Gold (bread and butter top lane tanky AD; build splits up here depending on if top opponent is physical/magic damage) Against Physical - Ninja Tabi 2x Dorans Blade Warmog's Armor (cuz its fuckin Garen) Last Whisper or Infinity Edge or Maw of Malmortius Against Magical - Mercury's Treads Hexdrinker (IMMEDIATELY) Warmog's Armor (Again, fucking Garen) Maw of Malmortius Final Build should look something like this: Merc/Tabi, Warmog's (Fucking Garen), Maw of Malmortius, Last Whisper, Randuin's Omen/Guardian Angel, Infinity Edge Other relatively applicable items: Sunfire Cape (not usually, but if the enemy is VERY melee AD based, it's ok) Force of Nature (again not the best item but if their team has 2/3 magic damage pokers, its decent) Bloodthirster (if you are doing very well and need to do more damage instead of tank hits) Atma's (the item sucks now, but for Garen it's... myenh) Youmoo's Ghostblade (how the fuck do you pronounce that?) Trinity Force (Q doesn't have a low enough cool down to warrant TForce, but the slow proc is good for judgement if you get it) Frozen Mallet (again, slow proc; doesn't give enough AD IMO to be great on Garen) Manamune (hueheuheheuheuheuheuheuheuheuheeheuhehuehue) Boots of Swiftness (if and only if you feel like they do NO damage to you or your team because you are snowballing SO hard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpoke Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Oddly enough Garen is one of the few champs that I faceroll Yorick with. His spin now does 75% to minions meaning ghouls are quick work. His silence and spin are impossible to get away from as Yorick has no blink/dash to escape with. As for a build, Garen is more built on total AD rather than bonus AD now that they changed his judgement back. As such, building gradual AD into late is better now than building quick AD (Brutalizer, IE) early. Also Armor Pen is his new favorite stat, not AD. Runes: Arpen Red Armor Yellow Scaling MR Blue MS/AD/Arpen/Armor Quints (in order of what I think is best) Masteries: 9-21-0 is usually best for Garen, though 19-11-0 is good too. For 9-21-0, take the 10% armor pen, movement speed (from "Initiator"), reduced minion and base damage, and improved offensive summoners. For 19-11-0, take the 10% armor pen, the 6 flat armor pen, the scaling AD, and damage reduction from minions and attacks. The 19-11-0 page can be found here as seen on this thread. Summoners: Ignite and Flash. Meta sheep. Items: Boots and Potions (Cloth and Potions is ok too against matchups with FULL physical burst like Riven, Jax, and Wukong) Heart of Gold (bread and butter top lane tanky AD; build splits up here depending on if top opponent is physical/magic damage) Against Physical - Ninja Tabi 2x Dorans Blade Warmog's Armor (cuz its fuckin Garen) Last Whisper or Infinity Edge or Maw of Malmortius Against Magical - Mercury's Treads Hexdrinker (IMMEDIATELY) Warmog's Armor (Again, fucking Garen) Maw of Malmortius Final Build should look something like this: Merc/Tabi, Warmog's (Fucking Garen), Maw of Malmortius, Last Whisper, Randuin's Omen/Guardian Angel, Infinity Edge Other relatively applicable items: Sunfire Cape (not usually, but if the enemy is VERY melee AD based, it's ok) Force of Nature (again not the best item but if their team has 2/3 magic damage pokers, its decent) Bloodthirster (if you are doing very well and need to do more damage instead of tank hits) Atma's (the item sucks now, but for Garen it's... myenh) Youmoo's Ghostblade (how the fuck do you pronounce that?) Trinity Force (Q doesn't have a low enough cool down to warrant TForce, but the slow proc is good for judgement if you get it) Frozen Mallet (again, slow proc; doesn't give enough AD IMO to be great on Garen) Manamune (hueheuheheuheuheuheuheuheuheuheeheuhehuehue) Boots of Swiftness (if and only if you feel like they do NO damage to you or your team because you are snowballing SO hard) Your so asian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Warmogsx4 Atmas impaler boots merc treads or tabi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Warmogsx4Atmas impaler boots merc treads or tabi Fucking Garen... Also, I forgot a good item in the list of option crap. Aegis of the Legion gives Garen some great all-around tankiness and is necessary for any team. If support/jungler isn't getting it, do werk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeo Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Now laz for the final build that you had Tabi, Warmog's (Fucking Garen), Maw of Malmortius, Last Whisper,Guardian Angel, Infinity Edge Was curious why last whisper would be used. I think something like Frozen hammer would be good. or ofcourse like you said Sunfire cape could work Well I kinda understand why you would select last whisper, kind of a must item but then again.. Im just dumb and dont understand the item too well. When I go all tank Garen I build this : Swift boots, Guardian Angel, Sunfire Cape, Warmog's Armor, Warmog's Armor and then i think another warmog.. lolololol unless i go for like thornmail or something I dont often go AD with garen but when i do >=D I get : Same boots, Infinity edge, like 3 black cleavers, with phantom dancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Full Tank Garen is useless Garen. He has no CC and no Peel, thus there is no reason to attack him or focus any amount of damage on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeo Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 but think of all the idiots that play normal games and will attack him anyways! Oh and 1 more thing for garen... Spin 2 win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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