SuBz3r0 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 1. Abuser name:[HG] Sharp Shooter [A] 2. Their Steam Id:STEAM_0:0:37719874 3. What server: [HG] 24/7 Zombie Survival! | FastDL | HeLLsGamers.com 4. About what time:11:00-11:30 5. PROOF:http://www.mediafire.com/download/641s4hru86zkfls/sharp1.dem 6. Please tell us about the incident -I was playing zombie survival, minding my own business. I picked up a free hammer that is provided within the map known as zs_underpass_330 v2. I made use of the free hammer by building two barricades. One barricade at B2 and one at the doorway near the stairs. I built the door way barricade first. After some time. Ta Da that barricade is done. I then start working on the B2 barricade a bit more as only thing it had was a metal shelf. I see someone un-nailing it, No big deal so I simply re nailed it back instead of issuing a warning and such as its not a issue that needs a admin to use his powers. I start working on a 2nd layer for the shelf as head-crabs would get in through the various bottom/middle/top holes of the shelf. I decide its better to build a 2nd layer that also blocks the holes in the event if the shelf breaks, no panic should ensue as things would not go well if the front defenders ended up with zombies behind them. I work my way around it adding barrels on the side, a box in the form of a diamond in the middle, 2 doorways slanted diagonally to form a v that covers the middle while also providing a upper side shooting position. To provide a feel of what I'm explaining here are four pictures of the shooting positions of the barricade. 1)-Lower Left Side. http://gyazo.com/555114b86f72d11c8cc3a0c8b4f773c3 2)-Lower Right Side http://gyazo.com/426c41198730b10f2229d073b655a420 3)-Upper Left Side http://gyazo.com/62e4d40f18a08e05ff1a4ed41947221e 4)-Upper Right Side.http://gyazo.com/e554eff0a9a97f861dc736774619abff Provided with the given shooting positions I saw it as a good and strong cade that was easily defendable. After finishing the B2 cade, I was shortly told after by sharpshooter that I had to un-nail my barricade because "it's a pile of props" http://gyazo.com/8157371b051dad3ea6304c224ebed2c8 that I believe was not up to his standards. Comparing the B2 barricade to the 2nd cade http://gyazo.com/3c49ccaa7acabf8c6ce70705fb4afb01 which also utilizes the side shooting that my barricades also use. The 2nd barricade could be deemed worser than B2 and yet for some reason only I am zlisted. I assumed that sharp changed his mind but 2 maps later I found out zlisted. Upon checking who did the zlist, I found out it was not sharp but requested by sharp himself. http://gyazo.com/7cdffd60add9ab08495262f413f1dc9e. This is not the first time he has accused my cade of being a bad cade and unjustly taken action on it. An example of this is https://mega.co.nz/#!KN0mBBAI!L99V6Rb5VNTptoF1ICGmRWkDmkh3j8StzBsxckZ9OJE which was resolved by magic. Provided in this ban https://hellsgamers.com/hgbans.php?i=85485-phooogie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharp_shooter Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I work my way around it adding barrels on the side, a box in the form of a diamond in the middle, 2 doorways slanted diagonally to form a v that covers the middle while also providing a upper side shooting position. To provide a feel of what I'm explaining here are four pictures of the shooting positions of the barricade. Simply explaining that in the server would've disabused me of the idea that it was a simple pile of props. Instead you decided to argue with me and make matters worse. Concerning the second barricade, I asked him to unnail it and he never did. Never got the chance to blacklist him. Not that it would matter that much since it would be that long. What's funny is I never actually did anything on the server. I asked adam cole to deal with it because I was rather busy dealing with my game deciding to hit 0fps in the hidden room. I to have a demo and I'll upload it at magics request. A bit off topic: I find it funny that you were not on teamspeak to talk about it, nor wearing your tags, and not having any of your names matching. So those are 3 rules you're breaking right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuBz3r0 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 @Sharp, last time I explained things, you changed my zlist to a ban. I indeed did explain to you that it was not a "pile of props". I never argued, you claimed it was a pile of props and I explained what roles each prop had to justify the barricade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 @ When I try to download your demo it gives me an error. Can you upload it to another website such as mediafire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuBz3r0 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 @magic it was uploaded to mediafire. But let me upload it to a diff website. Give me about 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 @magic it was uploaded to mediafire. But let me upload it to a diff website. Give me about 10 minutes. Not necessary someone uploaded to a different website for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 After reviewing the demo provided I conclude that this was misunderstood between both parties. For sharp I can see his reasoning why he though it was not a good cade, however, our current rule for so called "shitcade" goes as follows: 18) Do not barricade poorly (i.e building a barricade that cannot be shot through or hard to see through). Now, with that being said, the cade itself was not the greatest cade, but did have spots to fire through, and with that spot in particular, it will not last very long. For the future I want both of you to review that rule and try to follow it as best as you can. Your zlist has also been revoked. Reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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