Adding to this. http://www.mediafire.com/download/y7ahy10c2ta5afs/turret1.dem -I will admit, this is starting to become irritating as I went to take a short piss, come back and see Im lagging out and my turrets packed. If I let the darksoul guy take the turret spot, chances are they would've packed his and since I didn't give a warning. I'm afraid I can't do much for him.

Your claim that ky merra has nothing to do with this doesn't make sense. If hes telling people/engaging in the packing of turrets to take spots and not because of cade interference, then he is involved. It does not matter nor are people required to ask to place it as there is no claiming of spots. Its fair game for anyone, including random people. On highschool of course its in the air, Original location was right next to the box in the back. You, ky, shooter, and someone else walk in and pack it up replacing my turret with shooters in the same spot. Again asking is not required. Your assumption of that I would want to place my turret/box/resupply if it was my cade is indeed correct, but that doesn't give me or anyone else the right to forcefully pack up there deployables. Only time this is acceptable is if its interfering with the cade which qualifys it as trolling. Honestly I do not care if you would pack up your deployables if asked. That is your opinion on what you would do. I do not think like you. Purposely doing it over and over is allowed. All deployables location is considered fair game as in if anyone not just me but anyone such as rtriangle or darksoul decides to place there deployables and its not interfering with the barricade. Then there is no grounds for packing it up. Only time a turret was not efficient in a cade was the tx_highschool map with the ceiling turret. Again, the initial turret packing to place shooter's led to it being there. What do you consider a troll turret if I may ask? Not manually controlling? Owner of turret is afk? You want to place your turret but there's a turret already there so its trolling? As far as I know. None of these are valid grounds to pack it. I do not have much of a saying for the 4 person packing system as it has its benefits, but granted it could be also abused shown in this issue. Shooter was implying he would either issue a abuse report/blackmail with a demo given that when I demonstrated that your actions to pack peoples deployables is wrong, given that you were on grounds for a slay/kick for trolling. Shooter out of no where happens to tell me hes recording just out of the blue like that? That somehow recording me slaying you/kicking you for trolling is fun, its obviously implying that he would report me with this so called demo which I assume he believes is actual admin abuse. I mentioned I hate you? Where do I say that? Obviously I don't hate you, but I dislike how your taking matters into your own hands as the written rules do not appeal to how you would want it to be. Matters that this does not just effect me, but other players of the server. If you truly were mature about this, you would make a thread concerning of the issue you wish to change such as rule 9. Not having friends pack up peoples deployables to further your game play. So say If I slayed all 4 of you which means ky, unicorn, beiges, and shooterx. Given that shooters randomly saying hes recording. None of you would say anything right? When you mention its a higher offence. I specifically requested a talk from a higher rank than me which by far is much better than having a map wasted due to your actions. Its a talk versus a powers being used on you. I talked with begeies much like I talked with yuzuki as granted that not everyone is perfect. People slip up, not everything requires strict use of powers when a talk itself could be the same if not more beneficial to both sides. In this case. Begeies is a new person to zombiesurvival. I'm more lenient on them as getting to learn the rules takes time. I only report if I feel it needs to be reported, unless required such as for zlisting and such.I have never been much of a teamspeak user, but you claim I don't log into teamspeak but I am indeed in. Just in the AFK channel. What you ask for me to do such as pack up my turret is not mandatory. If you had read the post. I asked for a talk/no punishment. I cannot stress this enough. Here is a picture of the zs rules. I highlighted rule 9 and rule 10. http://gyazo.com/0edc767fcc9b45a9a4fc1a2edaa03ebe</div>

Sir, I explained whats up, my claim does make sense and im not arguing with you, your trying to hard to get us banned after you had multiple chances to do something about it, but you kept trolling, say whatever you want about how you placed it. if you can take a demo, you can use teamspeak, theres no excuse not to confront us. Phoogie i dont argue with you because you twist the story up to make yourself come out shining when your the one who started it, like i said if i randomly went around packing up turrets thats trolling, if i asked several times thats not trolling, thats giving a chance. this wouldnt even be an issue if you didnt repeatedly, steel props from as soon as i dropped them, placed your turret in troll ways. There wasnt any blackmail. what are you trying to hide by bringing that up? you have to have done something wrong to worry about blackmail. if you have any further problems please contact someone in HG im not replying to this anymore.

I cannot stress this enough. Here is a picture of the zs rules. I highlighted rule 9 and rule 10. http://gyazo.com/0edc767fcc9b45a9a4fc1a2edaa03ebe If you read the written rules. It says only if its interfering with the cade. You asking for me to pack it up is ASKING which depending on the person may comply or not comply. (It doesn't say anywhere in the written rules that states if you ask for a deployables spot and the owner denies it, it is considered trolling). This should not be an issue that requires giving warnings every single game.