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Ban CategoryPERP Blacklist [SWAT]
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Datetime Added  (157mon 1wk 4d 54m ago)2012-09-11 11:12 PM
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157mon 1wk 4d 54m ago | 2012-09-11 11:12 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by adam awsome
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Hey there guys,

So me swat. Shit starts going down at the bank. It gets sorted out......but I find a Mayor's Ransom there. I contact the mayor, tell him that I found a ransom and that I would like to guard him due to an immediate threat, would he please tell me his location. He does.

I get there, as I get there we stand there for a sec before we start to move out. Thats when I see Justin Chong and Aye Suicide run out of the hospital doors and open fire on the limo. I hop out, get Justin and get killed by Suicide in the process.

I then get blacklisted for guarding the mayor.
Original was a day, because i was "Mature About it" Suicide cut it down to 2 hours. This is interesting because I argued my points in OOC. I guess it was better than screaming in mike like a 8 year old girl.....but interesting all the same.

When you join Swat it tells you if the mayors life is in danger, or if he asks for help...you may guard him. I don't have it word to word cause I couldn't join swat to get them.

I was there only because the Mayor had received evidence of a hostage plot against him and he had asked for guards.

May I also pose the question; why did Suicide and Justin immediately open fire on the limo? If the Mayor was wounded, he would of died when the limo died. There were no adverts on his life, and as far as I could tell, there was no warning or order from the assailants.


*Tick 22'700 onwards. That tick mark is my first encounter with the ransom.



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157mon 1wk 4d 43m ago | 2012-09-11 11:22 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by Dark_Stool
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The first part I've seen you go wrong is you had your swat van right next to the limo, in which we could not kill you, and could not get you out of the swat van.

You can't protect the mayor just because you see "Mayors Ransom"... that's like saying your going down the street and seeing that in someones shop, so you immediately have to get you and another cop to go and protect the mayor? Just think about how much sense that makes.

Throughout the entire demo, there were no adverts stating that the mayors life was in danger. Nor where there anyone around him to show that he was in true danger. Him and his SS were there the entire time without anyone around them with guns, but you felt necessary to guard the mayor, in your swat van, with another police officer.

And yes, I did get it lowered to 2 hrs, even before this report, simply because of your actions. But you need to realize that just because you see a "Mayors Ransom" sign, does not mean, as a swat, you can protect him. That's what Secret Service are there for. You need to wait out the 2hrs, and not always think your right.
157mon 1wk 3d 23h 51m ago | 2012-09-12 12:15 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by adam awsome
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The demo shows that I was not using the swat van as a guard tool, but was on foot until the Mayor decided to leave, which happened to be the same time you arrived. I jumped out of the van as soon as I saw you. As a policy I don't let cop Cadets in my van, so any cop that happened to hop in my van as I was preparing to leave was coincidental and I would of asked him to remove himself if there had been time. I was not aware of an extra passenger since my eyes were on the random shooting of the limo.

Again, the demo shows that I was acting as a solo swat.

I think the fact that you guys showed up within a minute of me arriving says that I was correct in my judgement of whether the mayor was in danger.

Not to be upsetting, but last year when there was an idiot who posted somewhere on the internet that he was gonna bomb the 9/11 memorial, New York's security went into Hyper Drive. If someone tells the cops, Hey Im gonna kill someone at X hours at X location.....the cops are gonna be interested. In this case, X is the mayor at the Mayors location..whereever that would of been.

Again I say that the mayor asked for an extra guard. Which is perfectly fine.

The Misunderstanding: I was using my swat van as a shield to guard the mayor.
Facts: As seen in the demo, we were preparing to leave and that was when I jumped in my swat van. Review the demo........ I was not using it as a shield but as a transport.
157mon 1wk 3d 23h 39m ago | 2012-09-12 12:26 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by ubnifinso
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SWAT are used for heavy situations such as someone being raided, bank robbers, and when the mayor is in DANGER such an occasion would be like if i was in the Nexues death threates came up and my Secret Service are to protect me if people come up and shoot at me and fail then i can call for some help such as SWAT come in.

Unblacklisted Please be more careful
157mon 1wk 3d 23h 38m ago | 2012-09-12 12:27 AM ubnifinso disapproved ban
157mon 1wk 3d 23h 36m ago | 2012-09-12 12:29 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by Dark_Stool
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The main problem is NOT that you used your van as a guarding tool, but the fact that you saw "Mayors Hostage" somewhere and you and another cop decided it'd be appropriate to camp near the mayor. You need to realize that infact it's not okay to do that. You can't protect the Mayor just because you see that. It's not allowed. He had 1 or 2 SS at the time and does not need all your help with you as a Swat and the other one there as a Cop. Maybe your judgement was correct, maybe it wasn't, but your being thickheaded when I'm trying to tell you that you CANNOT go to the mayor just because you see "Mayor's Hostage". If there was an advert somewhere that his life is in danger, or there were people around him with guns, then your could protect him. And since there was an SS, you can't be doing this.

Your blacklist is near expiration, please take my judgement to head and realize that you cannot do what you did.

Edit: ZJ replied above me, since you didn't believe me when I told you, maybe you'll listen to ZJ this time.
157mon 1wk 3d 23h 32m ago | 2012-09-12 12:34 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by adam awsome
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Thankyou

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