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  View Steam Community Profile for 1:48168262Subject Steam ID  Lookup other bans for 1:481682621:48168262
Subject Name  Lookup other bans for [HG] Phirewire[HG] Phirewire
By  Lookup other bans by 13721 lu7ky
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Datetime Added  (153mon 2wk 5d 18h 18m ago)2012-09-25 05:07 PM
Duration  (Passed)1 day
153mon 2wk 5d 18h 18m ago | 2012-09-25 05:07 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by lu7ky
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This HeLLsGamers member defended accounts of Disrespect and Anti-Gay Insults. After a report of Disrespect, Anti-Gay Insults, Douchebaggery, and Trolling. [HG] Phirewire proceeded to tell me that this behavior was permitted as long as not abused, When I brought up the point that Racist terms have zero tolerance, why should insults against a Sexual Orientation be permitted? To prove a point he called me a "Faggot" and proceeded to tell me this behavior is permitted as long as not abused. As a member of HeLLsGamers he should understand that this behavior and disrespect is not permitted on any level.

http://hellsgamers.com/threads/69165-PERP-Lite-RP-3-0-Rules-Revised

"20. No racism, trolling, minging, disrespect of others players or admins, douchebaggery, advertising other servers/websites, spamming on the microphone/chat, and constant complaining/griefing."

Surely the Anti-Gay Insults he used can be considered "Disrespect of other players or admins". I expected better from a member of HG, Because I don't have the authority to do anything about this I will just leave this to the Staff to make a decision, Thank you.



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153mon 2wk 5d 18h 6m ago | 2012-09-25 05:19 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by sippincoffee
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I hope you have more of the conversation at hand, where i joined and you and Eclipse were fighting over a previous ban. I took the situation on and explained whats reportable and whats a waste of time. This is the internet, and its a game trash talk will happen you need to know where the bar is to when its to far and whats just good fun. A sever that has strict moderation of you say one bad or a word that one person could take offense to and the server population will drop. Smack talk a curs all the time, find the balance between alright, enough, and to much.

As per racist thing as I told you in game, even racism isn't a first offence ban. You will be warned kicked and banned depending on what you say do and what offence it is.

I am by no means offending gay people when I say faggot, as I don't even take the word faggot as a homophobic term. More as a way for someone to show anger to someone, as I do most words as they seem meaningless just words people should in anger and to feel better about themselves. My term of calling you a faggot was to prove a point, and to see if you would take it to the forums where I directed you, In hopes an upper staff will set this straight. Where I have already discussed the situation with other staff and they agree one offence is nothing know the balance.
153mon 2wk 5d 17h 51m ago | 2012-09-25 05:35 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by lu7ky
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How you see a term has nothing to do with how badly it can offend or disrespect specific people. One person's personal views on terms is different than the server's view on these terms. Regardless of whether or not you find this language appropriate or not, The fact of the matter is that this language could be offensive to specific players. Anyone who plays on this server should have the right to play without being offended or trash talked OOCly. As of the server population, Players who are verbally harassed or offended, even if once by server staff could be tempted to leave the server causing population to drop. We have these rules for a reason, Not to be twisted and manipulated by our members but to be completely enforced. Regardless of how small the populous of who could be offended by this language, It could offend our players and should be avoided completely. Even if one offense of Racism or Homophobia is used, It is still breaking the rules and is enough to cause a player serious offense. Though one offense is only kick worthy, That one offense should be taken highly serious, Especially if that offense of breaking the rule is by a HeLLsGamers Member. If a new player joins this server and sees HG staff breaking these rules (Regardless of how small the rule) they could find this behavior acceptable and start doing this themselves. I am not offended by your speak but I am afraid that you telling me it's okay in OOC could cause other players to think this behavior is completely acceptable. I am only asking that next time you think before you speak, And consider anyone who could be offended.
153mon 2wk 5d 17h 48m ago | 2012-09-25 05:37 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by sippincoffee
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Trash talking in a video game is ok, Do you expect them not to encounter trash talk and disrespect in real life? How would the internet be any diffrent? There is a limit on the amount of trash talking and disresct that should be tolerated but it should be allowed.
153mon 2wk 5d 17h 43m ago | 2012-09-25 05:42 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by lu7ky
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The objective of this server is not to teach our players a life lesson on how to deal with Trash Talk, It is to give the players a fun and enjoyable experience on our servers. They should be able to play on this server free from Offensive language and Trash Talk in OOC. Though I understand that It is impossible to enforce all acts of Disrespect in our servers, We as HG members should try our best to follow ALL of the rules of our servers to leave a positive example to our Newer players. I understand your personal views and I am done arguing this with you, Please leave the decision to the HG staff.
153mon 2wk 5d 16h 59m ago | 2012-09-25 06:27 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by lu7ky
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Continued to say Homophobic Terms over Mic later in the day (Starts at the beginning of this Demo) If racist terms are not permitted on our servers, Why should Homophobic Terms be permitted?



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153mon 2wk 5d 12h 20m ago | 2012-09-25 11:06 PM Bradlius approved ban
153mon 2wk 5d 12h 20m ago | 2012-09-25 11:06 PM Bradlius changed ban duration from 2h [7200 seconds] to 1d [86400 seconds]
153mon 2wk 5d 12h 20m ago | 2012-09-25 11:06 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by Bradlius
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banned until he comes and talks to me.

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