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| Ban Category | Regular Ban |
 Subject Steam ID |  1:73876200 |
| Subject Name | -hg- ۣۜFÅLLƸN |
| By |
Jeorey |
| Server (And Mod) |  Web |
| Datetime Added | (131mon 1wk 3d 12h 22m ago)2014-10-29 03:10 AM |
| Duration | (Inactive) (Passed)2 hours |
131mon 1wk 3d 12h 22m ago | 2014-10-29 03:10 AM Post by
Jeorey
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Jeorey Friend of HG A hellsgamer's recruit, representing hellsgamers players in the following way. | Id first off like to point out, no matter who he talks to, and the reasons he does things. He is representing hellsgamers. If hes willing to do this to one person, what stops him from doing it to others. Blantant and most disprespecful troll. Homophobic remarks, Talking about killing of my grandfather, speaking of hiter,natzi's. Hogging the mic on a trade server. He is also defaming me of character and preforming libel against me, by calling me a scammer. He is clearly a harassment, in which is along with libel and defaming, is AGAINST the law, and is banable on every moral trade server on tf2. Id like to point out, this user at least broke the following rule several times:" Be respectful to everyone! A certain amount of smack-talk is ok, but do not be disrespectful." Honestly, I hope this ban isin't disregarded as It is full of evidence, it provides the clear rules that are broken and links them to real life laws of human rights in which the server should more or less revolve around. He should not be excused as a recruit of hellsgamers as I feel he might be. If this is not at very least an example of uttermost disrespect, id sugguest revising your rules. But at the time, I do feel that he definitely broke that rule and went overboard in his comments.If this was said to an admin id be very supprized if he din't get banned. Admins should not have more power than players, as we support the server, and admins is strictly a moderator status. fallen.dem (5.58 MB) fallen2.dem (3.18 MB) talkover.dem (7.29 MB) Descrimination.dem (1.87 MB) |
131mon 1wk 3d 12h 18m ago | 2014-10-29 03:13 AM Post by
TestingM
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TestingM Friend of HG I reviewed 3 of the 4 demos. The Talkover one I will need tick numbers for as nothing seems to be happening for a long time at the start. | The evidence provided thus far is skirting the boundaries of breaking any serious rule or regulation. His stories (which weren't all about your grandfather incidentally) seem to be fictional and should be taken as such. There were a few grey racial items but nothing that really needs anything beyond having a word with him. I note that you did not record any of your replies during this recording using the loopback setting. I know you were talking to each other but I wasn't recording at the time. Next time you should ask him to stop in text chat. I could go on and on but in summary you two need to learn to get along or learn to ignore each other. I will have a word with him. |
131mon 1wk 3d 11h 17m ago | 2014-10-29 04:15 AM Post by
Jeorey
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JeoreyFriend of HG Key points: You are allowing bullying,descrimination,harassment and verbal abuse on your servers?A who respresents your community breaks rules, as a recruit, especially when its clear that just simple "disrespect" is against the rules and nothing is done about it. | Am I free to talk about any body in the manner that he did so, including every admin. And what he is doing isint harassment? ,Id also like to point out, that unfrotunitly in source demos don't record anything a player says, and even if it did, There WAS no exchange in harassment. He started harassing me asoon as I got on the server, and you were a witness.I never said anything against him, nor did I say anything in to him. He is blatantly disrespectful, in which is against the rules. If you could please explain better the disrespecting rules that would be great, because this is literally harsssment and thats a step ABOVE being disrespectful. Harrasment is a **constant** disrespect or even verbal abuse. Jokes are jokes, rules are rules. Unfortunitly, and like you said, I have learnt to ignore him, but I am not going to sit arround allowing one to completely disrespect me like that. As seen in the demos I ignored him, and Im posting evidence of him breaking rules here. Tone is irellevant and can still be taken as harassment, and verbal abuse and in which is Against our rules on heavy terms. What If i say the N word in a joking manner I will be excused? No. Rules are rules, and he broke them. I never claimed it was all about my grandfather, but expressing to "piss and shit" in somebodies grandfathers mouth, and talk about killing another players grandfather is funny to you and you find it a joke. Thats sick. I am not intimidated by him, but if your servers promote bullying (verbal abuse) in which is also a federal crime, you are decreasing the reputation of the server. So please tell me what disrespect is , because by definition he far passed that. And as mentioned previously, if somebody said that to you misc, you'd ban him. This is total blatant disrespect. |
131mon 1wk 3d 11h 8m ago | 2014-10-29 04:23 AM Post by
Jeorey
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JeoreyFriend of HG I clearly asked you to have a talk with him before this got out of hand and it did. I was willing to discuss with him and you told us to ignore each other. Well I ignored him, but couldent mute him as I din't want to break rules by talking over him. But his online Bullying and harassment persisted far beyond disrespect. I attempted to reason things out with you and him, and as far as I see that did no good, he persisted to be offensive. Here are screenshots between me and u in conversation, incase they got lost. | He broke rules, he was hightly offensive, I hate this favoritism, I told you I was going to report him and u simply replied "just ignore him". No I do not have to stand here and listen to his blantant and most disrespecful comments, and it is against the rules. Please do something about it.   |
131mon 1wk 3d 10h 25m ago | 2014-10-29 05:06 AM Post by
Jeorey
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JeoreyFriend of HG , Okay I kinda wrote this fast and I can't edit it because its been too long, now I am more calm and Id like to clarify a few things I said. | When I said "and talk about killing another players grandfather is funny to you and you find it a joke. Thats sick" What I meant to say is that should not be taken as a joke and fiction is not an excuse. Fiction or not, it is still massively rude and definitly harassment. As by the promotion of bullying, I mean more that this server does not discourage verbal abuse, and does nothing against the disrepect and bullying, thus being there witnessing what is unethical, yet not doing anything about it. The server does not nessarly promote but it contributes and and still holds the server partly responsible in the un-ethical acts as it has the power to stop them but yet does nothing against them. Id like to thank you for allowing me to review what I wrote. |
131mon 1wk 3d 9h 38m ago | 2014-10-29 05:53 AM Post by
Jeorey
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JeoreyFriend of HG And how did he pass HG screening. With all these Similar bans ALL Stemming from this year? | Honest to god. I did this research after the last report. And my assumptions of his representation of hg were 100% CORRECT. This player is known for disrespecting, and off many famous communities he is banned. I don't know how he passed HG screening, I don't know how hes still a recruit as hes getting perm bans as we speak with his hg tags on. Hes old enough to read rules, know between wrong and right. To not disrepect staff and players, to controll his anger. I still don't understand how he din't break rules on our server, And as back up, my report can't be faulty as I've targetted a problem that hes been banned numerous times off other communities without prior knowledge to his past. I assume he was the same on our servers as he was elsewhere.***** I don't understand our leniency on Hellgamers in comparison to any other community****, especially when we are short on staff after the departure and kicks of former leaders. We have little to no staff, our regulation is being brutally violated.(In this case a small regulation is being brutally violated, yet still is breaking the rules). How are we suppose to maintain order, when we let trouble makers in our community, we do not take actions against players who are breaking rules. How could our community be taken seriously. I remember when HG applies for steamrep. We got shit talked down, People like him, are representing HG. http://bans.harpoongaming.com/index.php?p=banlist&hideinactive=false&advSearch=STEAM_0:1:73876200&advType=steamid "Disrespecting Staff/Players" http://www.opstonline.com/bans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:73876200&Submit "HomoPhobic Remarks", "admin Desrespect","Charging in Boxing Arena" 3 Bans Last one being Perm. (With HG tags) http://www.ftlgaming.com/bans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:1:73876200&advType=steamid "Ignoring Admins" http://bans.xtcr.net/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:1:73876200&advType=steamid "Admin Disrespect" http://www.mbmgamers.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:1:73876200&advType=steamid "Trolling" Perm +HG Tags https://firepoweredgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:1:73876200&advType=steamid "Innapropriate Language." Also, please remember, these ONLY reflect the times he got CAUGHT breaking rules, it is safe to assume that were times he was not caught. And let me remind you, that his ban list is ALREADY lengthy for any player on tf2. Is this coinsience? Bad luck? Are these popular communities coming up with similar bans out of fluke? HG problems : http://hellsgamers.com/topic/103730-im-sorry-about-the-trouble/#entry603671 (Spamming and dream wrecked in teamspeak) - Okay he says he was sorry, and it was un-intentional but he is known for mic spamming to please take that into consideration. |
131mon 1wk 2d 16h 3m ago | 2014-10-29 11:28 PM Post by
TestingM
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TestingMFriend of HG I will try to address your replies in the order given: | One of the server rules states "Be respectful to everyone! A certain amount of smack-talk is ok, but do not be disrespectful.". It is clear that he is pushing the boundaries of this but had you complained to me on the server I would've issued a warning in all chat. I am obligated to warn/kick/ban. I have now warned him to be more respectful and not cause drama. This however is a two-way street. If you disrespected players, I would issue you with a warning before following standard procedure so no, you would not be free to disrespect players either. Harassment is defined as "Aggressive pressure or intimidation". I did not see any evidence of this from one set of recordings. In response to your comment - "I hate this favoritism, I told you I was going to report him and u simply replied "just ignore him"". I would ban my best friend on steam if I thought that he had seriously broken a rule. Also, I recommend that you not bend the truth in any further bans or you will become the subject of a warning. As seen in your own screenshot, I told you to ignore him way before you mentioned submitting a report ban. Since I myself participate in screening new members, I can tell you that none of the ban entries there are relevant since none include demos or screenshots. It is HG policy to require proof before taking action against any player (or preventing membership of HG). Fallen has exactly zero valid bans on HG at this moment in time. You can assume all you like but without proof, we will not take action. Also, that last link mentioned regarding a dreamwreck in teamspeak was due to a technical glitch and this was accepted by Jajolt. If you have any concrete evidence of hacking or misbehaviour on other servers then by all means submit proof as a new ban report. |
131mon 1wk 2d 11h 53m ago | 2014-10-30 03:38 AM Post by
Jeorey
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JeoreyFriend of HG Will do. Thank you for your reply, I will be keeping an close eye on him. | As for favortism, that was my belief, but again, you know yourself better than I. So I, Believe you. As for proof, I believed you missed the evident disrespect in the players name, or at very most impersonation of an admin (in which could be a serious offense), This shows one of his characters, If you require, Infact I am very close with many of these communities, and I could attempt to have admins explain the bans to you, as a witness. I mean I understand that HG requires proof, but I hope you understand that the probability of these similar bans being true is extremely high and you should keep a close eye on him as I will also. Also that no matter what, through a simple google querry of his name, HG being linked to these ban reports does infact give bad reputation as the probability of him doing these things are really high. Screenshot provided bellow. Thats What I have so far.He is a trouble maker, and if Im correct, he will continue to do what he does. And he will be caught red handed. Theres already a lead bellow. Thanks again, hopefuly the disrespect towards the admin figure or possible impersenation(doubht he went that far, but again proof is proof, we can only work with what we see.) is evident to you as it is to me, and at very least trolling, in  |
131mon 1wk 2d 11h 32m ago | 2014-10-30 03:59 AM Post by
TestingM
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TestingMFriend of HG That isn't proof of anything - it's a screenshot of a ban report which contains no proof itself. I believe it's time to lock this ban. | |
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