| This ban is not currently active. It has expired.  | |
| Ban Category | Regular Ban |
 Subject Steam ID |  0:38007223 |
| Subject Name | Anzeis |
| By | HG | AzoNa |
| Server (And Mod) |  Web |
| Datetime Added | (113mon 2wk 5d 10h 18m ago)2015-10-11 04:47 PM |
| Duration | (Passed)2 hours |
113mon 2wk 5d 10h 18m ago | 2015-10-11 04:47 PM Post by HG | AzoNa
Post by HG | AzoNa Guests propkilling 5-10 players | |
113mon 2wk 5d 9h 29m ago | 2015-10-11 05:36 PM Post by
Anzeis
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Anzeis Friend of HG I just want to mention 3 things of what happened: | 1. He banned me right away even though it was an accident (as far as I know, first its a kick, then a ban). 2. Before this happened we were arguing because I called him out about something, which could've influenced him into banning me. 3. His numbers are overly exaggerated (probably influenced by the fact that I called him out), proof here in the first 10 seconds of this video: youtube.com/v/t7yaMQmwRWk Not even 5 people died from that accident, let alone 10. This reminds of a recruit of HG that killed 3 people intentionally and individually, and he wasn't even slain even though an admin was there (I still have video of that in case you don't believe me), which proves my point, AzoNa was just mad at me. The funny part is that I told him it was an accident, and not my fault, and he said "don't do it again", don't do what? commit an accident? |
113mon 2wk 5d 8h 55m ago | 2015-10-11 06:10 PM Post by
Matt B
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Matt B Friend of HG judging by what i read in the console, this is on enervation, and the said props are the metal pieces at the bottom of the stairway, just before dropping down into the water with the fan? | those props just need to be removed. i know players will often put them at the door so people will get stuck on them (many are eager to get the free guns at the next part) but i don't see how you can purposely kill people with them. well make this a warning for now, but be aware of this map issue and try to avoid messing with those glitchy props until we can get fixes in. |
113mon 2wk 5d 8h 1m ago | 2015-10-11 07:03 PM Post by
AzoNa
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AzoNa Friend of HG By reading your post Anzeis, I'd like to reply | To put this ban into its context, let me explain you what happenned from my perspective I have no solid proof of what you did so in a way its a word against another, fine. I don't want to start some sort of drama or flaming thread In this map I start actually playing after 10-15 min as there are still some ways to glitch / exploit, at first I just observe and moderate I arrived at the stairs first and stayed behind everyone pushing the door and kept an eye on this glitched prop, because I know some people still use it to kill players I saw you (name + model) taking the prop, taking it in front of the door and then it felt down on the ground and 4 players exploded. Mhm. One thing about me : (quote) we were arguing because I called him out about something, which could've influenced him into banning me. (quote) His numbers are overly exaggerated (probably influenced by the fact that I called him out) (quote) which proves my point, AzoNa was just mad at me. I don't care about arguing, I practice this every day I play on this server and I don't care, I'm not mad, I don't write the name of this player in a book ... Unless he breaks a rule doing it, or after, which is the second part of my reply : One thing about breaking rules / exploit : Exploiting a map or a glitch is a big concern for us, because it can ruin other people fun and game experience. When I catch someone exploiting, I'm not only banning him instantly I also make sure that if he does it again, I will not be able to come around anymore One thing about you : (quote see screenshot below ) I was carrying that prop and people knocked it with melee attacks This prop in question is in fact a wall using func_physbox. You can pick it up, but at my knowledge if someone hit it, nothing happens, mhm. It can only be dropped using "use" command So here is my point of view, you intentionnaly killed these players, and when I asked for you to explain, you lied, because you know we don't tolerate such behavior. That's why when you admitted carrying the prop, I banned you right away. I don't like to be called a liar, an abuser and so on, and I can see that you wrote an abuse report on me as well. Well, see you there !    |
113mon 2wk 5d 6h 46m ago | 2015-10-11 08:19 PM Post by
Anzeis
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AnzeisFriend of HG AzoNa wrote: In this map I start actually playing after 10-15 min as there are still some ways to glitch / exploit, at first I just observe and moderate In the footage of the console I uploaded you can read people complaining about a player throwing props behind the barriers, I said I was sure it was him because he always does that, some others calling him out specifically saying they saw him doing it, and I have no way to prove it but, some others said it on the voice chat too, and you did nothing about it. So please don't tell me you were there just to "moderate" and "observe". AzoNa wrote: I saw you (name + model) taking the prop, taking it in front of the door and then it felt down on the ground and 4 players exploded. Your screenshots at the bottom show that you were clearly behind, if we look at the first thing you said about moderating that specific map because you know the ways people glitch / exploit. Then let me ask you, where's the screenshot where you see someone carrying a prop to a place where we don't need to cade with a prop that can't be nailed. In the video I sent, you can see in the console that somebody else called my name after about 30 seconds that we got in the cade, its only then when you send me a message asking me if I did it. Something doesn't make sense here. AzoNa wrote: I don't care about arguing... I'm not mad, I don't write the name of this player in a book ... Unless he breaks a rule doing it, or after... Read my first quote on this post, a player broke the rules and you didn't care. You clearly were not being rational at the moment since you exaggerated with the numbers, and by quite a lot. You said that I killed up to 10 players from 4 that really were killed, and I don't have to assume you knew how many were exactly killed since you took 2 screenshots yourself. If you had the time to take those screenshots, send me 3 messages and then ban me, then you had plenty of time to check the console to see the number of people who died. AzoNa wrote: One thing about you : (quote see screenshot below ) What am I exactly looking at in those pictures? I think the console footage I sent shows the same that you show in those pictures. AzoNa wrote: So here is my point of view, you intentionnaly killed these players, and when I asked for you to explain, you lied, because you know we don't tolerate such behavior. You're basically accusing Christopher Columbus of discovering America, and I'm going to quote IMI4tth3w and use what he said as my response IMI4tth3w wrote: i know players will often put them at the door so people will get stuck on them (many are eager to get the free guns at the next part) but i don't see how you can purposely kill people with them. I didn't lie when I said it was an accident, I didn't expect people to get killed, and I'm going to quote you this time AzoNa wrote: you know we don't tolerate such behavior. Some other admins tolerate it when its somebody they know, but I knew you would want to slay me, you were clearly mad, we argued a for the span of 4 maps and you even told me to submit an abuse report, so I'm sorry if I didn't want to lose my items over an accident mixed with you being mad/tired or whatever else you felt about me at that moment. And just as a side note, other times you have redeemed players when they get prop killed by the map but seems like you redeem only those who you get along with since you didn't redeem those 4 players. AzoNa wrote: I can see that you wrote an abuse report on me as well. Well, see you there ! You explicitly asked me to do so when we were playing in Vertigo. Anyways, I spent 2 hours banned from the server either way. |
113mon 2wk 5d 5h 53m ago | 2015-10-11 09:11 PM Post by
Matt B
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Matt BFriend of HG so i've reviewed this a bit more, and i'm going to say this. using those props in any way is an attempt to troll in some form. this time just so happened to result in people getting killed, which led to this ban. | this particular bug in this map hasn't really been much of a problem until now, and it will now be addressed. i'm going to consider this an approved ban. You decided to mess with buggy props, and this is the result. the time you spent banned was not without reason, and will be considered the punishment. in the future, do not try and play games with knowingly glitched props. |
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