| This ban is not currently active. It is disapproved.  | |
| Ban Category | Regular Ban |
 Subject Steam ID |  1:7049904 |
| Subject Name | Pho |
| By |
Kigen |
| Server (And Mod) |  Web |
| Datetime Added | (143mon 3wk 5d 1h 17m ago)2013-11-10 03:45 AM |
| Duration | (Inactive)Permanent |
143mon 3wk 5d 1h 17m ago | 2013-11-10 03:45 AM Post by
Kigen
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Kigen Executive Council    Ban evasion | |
143mon 3wk 5d 56m ago | 2013-11-10 04:06 AM Post by
RocksAndRocks
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RocksAndRocks Friend of HG Kigen wrote: Ban evasion Hey this is sandwich. Pho did use my account, but I am the primary owner of the account. I was unaware that the ban pho received was targeted at him as opposed to his account. This is because following his first ban he returned under a different account and he was not re-banned on sight. He played for a month before the most recent ban. That along with other things I obviously assumed incorrectly led me to believe this was not against the rules. It appears that I was wrong and I would like to appeal my ban. Thanks, Sandwich |
143mon 3wk 4d 22h 47m ago | 2013-11-10 06:14 AM Post by
Nite
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Nite HG Veteran  Your account your responsibility. Get a new account. | |
143mon 3wk 4d 22h 22m ago | 2013-11-10 06:40 AM Post by
RocksAndRocks
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RocksAndRocksFriend of HG Nite wrote: Your account your responsibility. Get a new account. I definitely understand that. To my knowledge though, pho did not break any further rules on my account. I was not made aware via any channel (e.g. forum rules, motd, or administrative message) that pho's person was not allowed on any steam ID. In that regard, I don't understand what responsibility I'm to take given what has been established by precedent to not be an issue (e.g. pho previously being allowed back on a new account after a ban and your suggesting that I purchase a new account to resume playing on your servers). I understand that you'd rather not deal with this any further, so I won't push further than that. I don't suppose I'll be unbanned, so if you'll allow me a few last words: I do hope I've been a positive member of the community. I really enjoyed playing with a lot of you guys on JB. Thanks, HG, and see you around!, Sandwich |
143mon 3wk 4d 15h 53m ago | 2013-11-10 01:08 PM Post by
Kigen
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KigenExecutive Council Steam Subscriber Agreement | http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/ wrote: You are solely responsible for all activity on your Account and for the security of your computer system. You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account. You agree that you are personally responsible for the use of your password and Account and for all of the communication and activity on Steam that results from use of your login name and password. |
143mon 3wk 4d 9h 20m ago | 2013-11-10 07:42 PM Post by
RocksAndRocks
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RocksAndRocksFriend of HG For the benefit of my peers, might I ask if transgressions of any of the other rules laid out by the steam sub agreement might result in a non-vac ban? | http://store.steampowered.com/online_conduct/ Would I further be able to clarify on the nature of my ban? In my case, nite has allowed me back if I so wish under a new account. Would I have to remain silent as to not reveal my identity? Is nite telling me that my person is no longer welcome or my account? Furthermore, should we players assume that all bans are against the player, the account, or should such a distinction always be clarified with leadership? Thanks again for the replies. I only ask to clarify for future players who might find themselves possibly violating an HG rule. |
143mon 3wk 4d 6h 55m ago | 2013-11-10 10:07 PM Post by
Kigen
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KigenExecutive Council The problem in this instance is that you shared your account with Pho. Technically, if VALVe was inclined to do so, your Steam account would be disabled completely. | But as far as HG is concerned Pho joined the server under your account while banned. Thus resulting in the need to ban your account to ban Pho. I ultimately leave the decision to your fate to those more involved with the problems Pho has been causing. That would be RedDevil, Nite, and the CS:S Division. |
143mon 3wk 4d 5h 28m ago | 2013-11-10 11:33 PM Post by
CantBeFaded
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CantBeFaded Friend of HG Your account your responsibility. This has ALWAYS been a rule. Who is to say if we unbanned you that you wouldn't do the same thing you just did? I say hell no. | |
143mon 3wk 4d 4h 8m ago | 2013-11-11 12:53 AM Post by
RocksAndRocks
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RocksAndRocksFriend of HG CantBeFaded wrote: Your account your responsibility. This has ALWAYS been a rule. Who is to say if we unbanned you that you wouldn't do the same thing you just did? I say hell no. I cannot argue with that. Given the new information you guys have been so generous to clarify for me, I'd like to refine my question. Would I, sandwich, be allowed to play again on any CSS servers with a different steam ID? I honestly meant it when I said that I enjoyed playing with you guys, and a new css account isn't much of an issue. The question is whether or not I have been personally banned. It's your servers and if you don't want me around, I want to respect that. |
143mon 3wk 4d 3h 41m ago | 2013-11-11 01:20 AM Post by
CantBeFaded
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CantBeFadedFriend of HG You can play with a new id. | |
143mon 3wk 1d 8h 36m ago | 2013-11-13 08:25 PM Post by
Tack
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Tack Friend of HG in the future don't share your account | |
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