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  View Steam Community Profile for 1:7049904Subject Steam ID  Lookup other bans for 1:70499041:7049904
Subject Name  Lookup other bans for PhoPho
By  Lookup other bans by 2403 Kigen
Server (And Mod)  WebWeb
Datetime Added  (138mon 3wk 1d 4h 49m ago)2013-11-10 03:45 AM
Duration  (Inactive)Permanent
138mon 3wk 1d 4h 49m ago | 2013-11-10 03:45 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by Kigen
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Ban evasion
138mon 3wk 1d 4h 29m ago | 2013-11-10 04:06 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by RocksAndRocks
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Kigen wrote:
Ban evasion


Hey this is sandwich. Pho did use my account, but I am the primary owner of the account. I was unaware that the ban pho received was targeted at him as opposed to his account. This is because following his first ban he returned under a different account and he was not re-banned on sight. He played for a month before the most recent ban. That along with other things I obviously assumed incorrectly led me to believe this was not against the rules. It appears that I was wrong and I would like to appeal my ban.

Thanks,
Sandwich
138mon 3wk 1d 2h 20m ago | 2013-11-10 06:14 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by Nite
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Your account your responsibility. Get a new account.
138mon 3wk 1d 1h 55m ago | 2013-11-10 06:40 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by RocksAndRocks
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Nite wrote:
Your account your responsibility. Get a new account.


I definitely understand that. To my knowledge though, pho did not break any further rules on my account. I was not made aware via any channel (e.g. forum rules, motd, or administrative message) that pho's person was not allowed on any steam ID. In that regard, I don't understand what responsibility I'm to take given what has been established by precedent to not be an issue (e.g. pho previously being allowed back on a new account after a ban and your suggesting that I purchase a new account to resume playing on your servers). I understand that you'd rather not deal with this any further, so I won't push further than that.

I don't suppose I'll be unbanned, so if you'll allow me a few last words: I do hope I've been a positive member of the community. I really enjoyed playing with a lot of you guys on JB.
Thanks, HG, and see you around!,
Sandwich
138mon 3wk 19h 26m ago | 2013-11-10 01:08 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by Kigen
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Steam Subscriber Agreement
http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

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You are solely responsible for all activity on your Account and for the security of your computer system. You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account. You agree that you are personally responsible for the use of your password and Account and for all of the communication and activity on Steam that results from use of your login name and password.
138mon 3wk 12h 52m ago | 2013-11-10 07:42 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by RocksAndRocks
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For the benefit of my peers, might I ask if transgressions of any of the other rules laid out by the steam sub agreement might result in a non-vac ban?

http://store.steampowered.com/online_conduct/

Would I further be able to clarify on the nature of my ban? In my case, nite has allowed me back if I so wish under a new account. Would I have to remain silent as to not reveal my identity? Is nite telling me that my person is no longer welcome or my account? Furthermore, should we players assume that all bans are against the player, the account, or should such a distinction always be clarified with leadership?

Thanks again for the replies. I only ask to clarify for future players who might find themselves possibly violating an HG rule.
138mon 3wk 10h 27m ago | 2013-11-10 10:07 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by Kigen
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The problem in this instance is that you shared your account with Pho. Technically, if VALVe was inclined to do so, your Steam account would be disabled completely.

But as far as HG is concerned Pho joined the server under your account while banned. Thus resulting in the need to ban your account to ban Pho. I ultimately leave the decision to your fate to those more involved with the problems Pho has been causing. That would be RedDevil, Nite, and the CS:S Division.
138mon 3wk 9h 1m ago | 2013-11-10 11:33 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by CantBeFaded
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Your account your responsibility. This has ALWAYS been a rule. Who is to say if we unbanned you that you wouldn't do the same thing you just did? I say hell no.
138mon 3wk 7h 41m ago | 2013-11-11 12:53 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by RocksAndRocks
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CantBeFaded wrote:
Your account your responsibility. This has ALWAYS been a rule. Who is to say if we unbanned you that you wouldn't do the same thing you just did? I say hell no.


I cannot argue with that. Given the new information you guys have been so generous to clarify for me, I'd like to refine my question. Would I, sandwich, be allowed to play again on any CSS servers with a different steam ID? I honestly meant it when I said that I enjoyed playing with you guys, and a new css account isn't much of an issue.

The question is whether or not I have been personally banned. It's your servers and if you don't want me around, I want to respect that.
138mon 3wk 7h 14m ago | 2013-11-11 01:20 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by CantBeFaded
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You can play with a new id.
138mon 3wk 7h 4m ago | 2013-11-11 01:31 AM CantBeFaded locked thread
138mon 2wk 4d 12h 9m ago | 2013-11-13 08:25 PM Tack unlocked thread
138mon 2wk 4d 12h 9m ago | 2013-11-13 08:25 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by Tack
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in the future don't share your account
138mon 2wk 4d 12h 9m ago | 2013-11-13 08:25 PM Tack locked thread
138mon 2wk 4d 12h 9m ago | 2013-11-13 08:25 PM Tack disapproved ban

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