Matt Marche Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 1. Abuser name: "Wonderland" 2. Their Steam Id: STEAM_0:0:29466977 3. What server: hostname: [HG] 24/7 Zombie Survival! | US-Central | FastDL | HeLLsGamers.com version : 14.07.10/24 5692 secure udp/ip : 69.162.101.109:27015 (public ip: 69.162.101.109) 4. About what time: 9:26 PM EST September 24th, 2014 5. PROOF: Demo: https://www.mediafire.com/?pq97vssfffvr88t Console Status: http://puu.sh/bMJvP/a7fead19a4.jpg 6. Please tell us about the incident On the map obj_pharmacy, there are a few props that are generally used for cading the front. More specifically, the large red props are the ones in question here. As many other players do, I threw them around a bit when they were close to the entrance (where they are typically caded) while absolutely no one was near the props, let alone trying to cade with them. Unfortunately, this is not on demo, but there are several people who were online who can vouch for this. After I threw the props, Wonderland told me it was kickable. Firstly, kicking someone for doing something prop related is improper use of admin. It should be a zlist. Secondly, there is no rule against doing what I did; He claimed I was "preventing people from cading" but not only was no one cading with any of the props but I was not really harming anything at all (even if someone was trying to cade there they would pick up the props themselves). Furthermore, when I was disputing this point (in which he referred to https://hellsgamers.com/topic/104498-question-about-props-obj-maps-zs/) he kept going on and on about how I was "creating an argument" when not only his position flawed to begin with (kick instead of zlist) he created an incredible extension of the phrase "trolling" to describe my responses and he muted me for making a point against it. There is no rule against picking up props and throwing them if no one is cading, is there? Fuzzy, Webflashing, Redusty and a few others I can't say for sure have done EXACTLY what I've done; Throw props in the pre-round. It's a way to entertain oneself while waiting. Wonderland is doing what he claims I was doing, creating drama for the sake of drama. There was nothing wrong being done and he's stretching rules to make use of his power. This coupled with his improper use of admin after being told by magic to review the rules (https://hellsgamers.com/topic/104661-wonderland-gold-member-abuse/) which was clearly not read due to the zlist/kick mixup and the "!silence Matt" tells me he is the one trolling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderland Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) KeyValues Error: RecursiveLoadFromBuffer: got EOF instead of keyname in file materials/models/weapons/loyenizersword/loyenizersword.vmt VertexLitGeneric, env_cubemap used on world geometry without rebuilding map. . ignoring: wood/woodstair002a env_cubemap used on world geometry without rebuilding map. . ignoring: maps/zs_obj_pharmacy_v19/nature/blendstonedirt001a_wvt_patch Chatbox initialized Successfully loaded previous chat Compact freed 733184 bytes Attempting to create unknown particle system 'steam_jet_50' Attempting to create unknown particle system 'steam_jet_50' Redownloading all lightmaps Attempting to create unknown particle system 'steam_jet_50' Attempting to create unknown particle system 'steam_jet_50' {SOUP}Elia: cade up pls SPECAIL: No we're playing hard mode, no cades. Wonderland: matt Matt Marche: easy mode* Wonderland: its on forums that what your doing is kickable SPECAIL: SORRY, easy* Wonderland: dont do it {SOUP}Elia: RACIST ROull-MH: WOW Matt Marche: Proof {SOUP}Elia: WOW Matt Marche: Link me Chadstiffy: thats wasist Wonderland: sure ROull-MH: wowie kapowie Veritas Amplus et Talio: the racism is real {SOUP}Elia: BAN HIM Lil Pasta Salad: 'wasist' ROull-MH: perma ban \ tropicalchill: THIS GUY IS HELLA RAISINS BRUH Not A Rapist: Ban that guy Wonderland: http://hellsgamers.c...ps-obj-maps-zs/ Veritas Amplus et Talio: IM FUCKING CEREAL GUYS. cpt zilla: safws Wonderland: preventing cading. Bob: wat yoursoal4me: buying trading cards and marketable items with ZS points friend me if interested Matt Marche: Is throwing props over walls / into unreachable areas â˜Jesus_Manâ˜: did you know you can pack other people's shit? Matt Marche: because throwing them 2 feet is into unreachable areas? Wonderland: :preventing somebody from cading: Bob: i saw people do that once Wonderland: now shush {SOUP}Elia: what if I told you no one cared KeyValues Error: RecursiveLoadFromBuffer: got EOF instead of keyname in file materials/models/weapons/loyenizersword/loyenizersword.vmt VertexLitGeneric, keven97pennino: lol starkiller killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_tosser {SOUP}Elia: xD cpt zilla killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_shovel Matt Marche: how is preventing people from cading, when firstly, no one is cading, and secondly, no one is near the props except you and I alucard13mmfmj: hey guys we can blow open the door with 2 C4 yoursoal4me: will trade hg points for steam trading cards and other items on the market ask if interested keven97pennino killed xSlimThugInTheBushx with weapon_zs_stubber Football2121: !shop Bob and Gunshed killed Lgjoka2002 with weapon_zs_tosser Ask-Darksoul killed Dunwitch with weapon_zs_blaster Wonderland: Tell you what since you just love drama and call wolf over anything keven97pennino: good Wonderland: Stop [WPC] Forrest Mark X killed Lgjoka2002 with weapon_zs_tosser Mr Pimz killed themself Veritas Amplus et Talio: who does wonder? starkiller killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_tosser Chadstiffy: PLACE AN ARSENAL CRATE UP HERE jaxjaxk killed xSlimThugInTheBushx with weapon_zs_crackler alucard13mmfmj: lol alucard13mmfmj: hahaha Matt Marche: Are you going to mute me unfairly now, despite the warning magic gave you? Gunshed killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_tosser [WPC] Forrest Mark X killed greenxpoizen6463 with weapon_zs_tosser Wonderland: Matt marche im asking you nicely to stop (TEAM) tropicalchill: matt it falls under trolling Mr Pimz killed themself No damage received for a whole minute! Added 2 points. [WPC] Forrest Mark X and starkiller killed Lgjoka2002 with weapon_zs_crowbar {SOUP}Elia killed xSlimThugInTheBushx with weapon_zs_blaster Wonderland: there was no arguement untill you started going on about how your not in the wrong cocojack killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_fryingpan Wonderland: please, stop cpt zilla killed greenxpoizen6463 with weapon_zs_shovel Veritas Amplus et Talio: Wonderland, he's done this shit on other servers too. lol tropicalchill: GUYS LETS STOP Gunshed killed Dunwitch with weapon_zs_tosser Gunshed killed xSlimThugInTheBushx with weapon_zs_tosser jason.cheng64 killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_blaster Matt Marche: There was n arguement the moment you created a rule offhand Zhepayroh: i stuck alucard13mmfmj killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_peashooter Wonderland: I asked on forums just to make sure Wonderland: Dont prevent people from cading jason.cheng64 killed Dunwitch with weapon_zs_blaster tropicalchill: STOP OR I WILL SPAM YOU ALL TO HELL Wonderland: Stop Chadstiffy and Mistakn killed xSlimThugInTheBushx with weapon_zs_tosser Bob: headcrab burrowed inside here capeman98 killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_tosser Leprechaun and -Rigel- killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_battleaxe Matt Marche: But that wasn't under the condition you asked, and I was not preventing anyone Mistakn killed greenxpoizen6463 with weapon_zs_magnum capeman98: medic No damage received for a whole minute! Added 2 points. tropicalchill: MATT IT FALLS UNDER TROLLING WHICH IS KICK/SLAY/BAN Stella and -Rigel- killed greenxpoizen6463 with weapon_zs_tosser Wonderland: Matt i dont want to mute you for not stopping a pointless argument when asked nicely many times Leprechaun killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_fryingpan -Rigel- killed Dunwitch with weapon_zs_battleaxe Wonderland: And it is trolling [WPC] Forrest Mark X and Large Patriarch killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_crowbar (MLG)Cooltacoman and -Rigel- killed xSlimThugInTheBushx with weapon_zs_hammer Wonderland: Please stop Stella killed greenxpoizen6463 with weapon_zs_tosser Matt Marche: There's a big difference between throwing props around randomly when bored that no one is using and stopping people form cadin -Rigel- killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_battleaxe Matt Marche: is it not trolling owengiants killed Dunwitch with weapon_zs_blaster Bob: 5 people out o 52 have amedkit Getpitted killed -Rigel- with weapon_zs_zombie Stella killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_tosser Wonderland: I will not ask you again to please stop You're playing on [HG] 24/7 Zombie Survival! | US-Central | FastDL | HeLLsGamers.com, enjoy your stay! lisettica867577 and Stella killed greenxpoizen6463 with weapon_zs_owens cpt zilla killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_shovel jai.charles killed Lgjoka2002 with weapon_zs_swissarmyknife Matt Marche: Then mute me, and prepare for another report tropicalchill: WONDER DONT cpt zilla and (MLG)Cooltacoman killed -Rigel- with weapon_zs_shovel goffballz and Stella killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_peashooter Veritas Amplus et Talio: Matt quit being a fa**** Gunshed and SWAGBOYXX (jr) killed Dunwitch with weapon_zs_tosser Lil Pasta Salad: You have to buy SMG ammo cocojack killed xSlimThugInTheBushx with weapon_zs_battleaxe Wonderland: Please make sure you get the console report when you refuse to stop for trolling [WPC] Forrest Mark X killed -Rigel- with weapon_zs_crowbar Wonderland: console logs â˜Jesus_Manâ˜: votekick Matt Autism tropicalchill: JUST LET HIM HAVE LAST COMMENT AND STOP WONDER capeman98 killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_tosser Matt Marche: recorded since you threatened me No damage received for a whole minute! Added 2 points. Stella killed -Rigel- with weapon_zs_tosser [WPC] Forrest Mark X killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_crowbar capeman98 killed greenxpoizen6463 with weapon_zs_tosser Leprechaun and Gunshed killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_fryingpan alucard13mmfmj: are you threatening me? cornholio? owengiants killed xSlimThugInTheBushx with weapon_zs_blaster [WPC] Forrest Mark X killed -Rigel- with weapon_zs_crowbar SWAGBOYXX (jr) killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_fryingpan JoeyAndersoNation: Apparently he has no idea who he's talking to Matt â˜Jesus_Manâ˜: votekick Matt Marche Autism [WPC] Forrest Mark X killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_crowbar keven97pennino killed Dunwitch with weapon_zs_stubber Wonderland: If thats what you think it was please make another abuse report matt (TEAM) Leprechaun: medic! jaxjaxk killed -Rigel- with weapon_zs_crackler Mistakn and Gunshed killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_magnum Mistakn killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_magnum SWAGBOYXX (jr) and jason.cheng64 killed greenxpoizen6463 with weapon_zs_battleaxe tropicalchill: WONDER LET HIM HAVE LAST COMMENT JUST STOP glowguy and Mistakn killed -Rigel- with weapon_zs_battleaxe jaxjaxk killed xSlimThugInTheBushx with weapon_zs_crackler Veritas Amplus et Talio: Wonderland, he's done this shit on other servers. JoeyAndersoNation: Do not threaten the Marche (TEAM) Leprechaun: wheres the medic Wonderland: i know veritas Gunshed killed -Rigel- with weapon_zs_tosser Veritas Amplus et Talio: He did this shit on QG Matt Marche: You're stretching the definition of a rule to include picking up props so you can do whatever you want and you want it to pass â˜Jesus_Manâ˜: votekick jesus derp Matt Marche: Did what, veritas No damage received for a whole minute! Added 2 points. Wonderland: !silence matt Wonderland: doesnt work Veritas Amplus et Talio: What you're doing now. Wonderland: !mute matt You muted Matt Marche [AFK] [HG] Peri: CHILDREN THESE DAYS..... (TEAM) Leprechaun: heal please You to admins: i asked him to stop like a hundred times peri -Rigel-: Lol why is Matt muted â˜Jesus_Manâ˜: autism You to admins: now he will go on forums and post an abuse report alucard13mmfmj: matt damon Veritas Amplus et Talio: autism JoeyAndersoNation killed Getpitted with weapon_zs_glock3 SPECAIL: So I says to Mabel I says tropicalchill: hes being a dingle berry right now keven97pennino and JoeyAndersoNation killed Link2o1o with weapon_zs_stubber Wonderland: Well lets wait for my abuse report :/ HG | Webflashing to admins: you have a valid excuse right? You to admins: you see chat yes? alucard13mmfmj: matt damon (TEAM) Leprechaun: medic jtduv11 earned the achievement Play Around (TEAM) Leprechaun: please capeman98: last call for arsenal crate [NewWestOfrica]FancyCat and GaMEFReaK5160 killed Lgjoka2002 with weapon_zs_tosser HG | Webflashing to admins: then why ask? -Rigel-: How's Matt being dingleberry? No damage received for a whole minute! Added 2 points. keven97pennino (STEAM_0:1:51746596) removed a nail belonging to jaxjaxk (STEAM_0:0:71257796). You to admins: thanks web <3 (TEAM) Leprechaun: medic Please note me asking him time after time after time to please stop that trolling isnt allowed before muting.. It almost seems if its a vendetta against me. Please review Edited September 25, 2014 by Wonderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyMindIsBlank Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) You were muted for continuing with the argument over whose right and whose wrong, which isnt abuse. You were asked multiple times to discontinue on the subject but continued. If he had taken action on you for throwing the chairs around then this report would lead to a different result but because he didn't this report shows no abuse of any kind. Now if we were to say that wonderland did take action on you for throwing the props around then it may be a problem depending on whether people were actually trying to cade with the props or not. If they were trying to use the props to cade then it would be considered trolling because it prevents players from cading. Now if NO ONE was trying to cade and you were doing what you said you were doing then it would be fine, again as long as no one was trying to build a cade. Please keep this in mind @Wonderland - NOT ABUSE Edited September 27, 2014 by MyMindIsBlank done reviewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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