info Perp Rules Overhaul Preliminary Changes Thread.

[->SK<-]

Welcome to the new PERP rules!... OKay, not really.

 

This thread is to facilitate showing what the new set of PERP rules will (most likely) be. This is the final stage before they are enacted; showing them to the public and letting them have their say. If there are no major issues, they will be enforced on the 4th of April (so the coming Monday) so get your ideas and your thoughts in!

 

Any rule number marked in bold and lime green indicates the rule has been changed.

 

Important to note; when they are enacted they will be changed regularly to suit the environment; this isn't just one giant charge and we then just go into the same routine again.

 

[spoiler=New Rules](Pt-Br) Perp 3.0 Regras

 

*These rules apply to: [HG] PERP Lite Server | Content Fixed | Fast DL | NoLaG | HeLLsGamers.com; When you first connect to our server and click the "OK" button, YOU AGREE TO OUR RULES! If you violate our rules, you possibly could be kicked or banned!*

 

 

General Rules

 

1. No metagaming. Metagaming means using in character (IC) information to out of character (OOC) chat or any other outside source.

 

2. No forcing people to crouch under or jump over props/entities in order to enter a base.

 

3. Suiciding/disconnecting to avoid RP/admin action is strictly prohibited. (i.e. Killing yourself/disconnecting to restore legs or jumping in front of a vehicle to avoid arrest.)

 

4. Do not break NLR (New Life Rule). New Life Rule applies every time you die, and lasts for 300 seconds. You have no memory of your previous life unless revived by a medic or otherwise and cannot return to the place of your death until the NLR time period runs out, regardless of any possible event.

 

5. Do not RDM (Random Death Match) or run people over with your car on purpose (CDM or Car Death Match) for any reason. This includes killing people for their weapons, they said mean things to you, revenge killing, random molotoving, revenge killing for people not in your organization etc. You must make a serious attempt to avoid people while driving.

 

6. No punch-whoring (excessive random punching of players). Do not randomly hit people with your fists or a bat for no reason.

 

7. Vehicle climbing or people stacking is not allowed unless it is able to be done realistically. You cannot use props, vehicles, or people in order to reach a part of the map you would not normally be able to reach. Also, you cannot make ramps to see over certain areas while basing and you cannot jump onto the roof or awnings of shops.

 

8. Prop surfing, climbing, pushing, boosting and blocking are strictly prohibited. Meaning, you cannot use props to gain access to places you normally wouldn't be able to access. You may block off access all but one entrance/exit to a base, and can block access to vehicles in their entirety (meaning you must have an entrance/exit at minimum for all players to go through)

 

9. No growing/killing on un-owned property. If you are basing with a buddy who owns the property and DC's, a relief window of 3 minutes is in place to allow you time to pack up your items and leave.

 

10. No anti-afking. This means do not abuse any keyboard or mouse commands in order to circumvent the away from keyboard (AFK) system.

 

11. In order to sell any items, you must own a shop and sell exclusively inside of the shop. This means you may not sell out in the street or using your car.

 

12. Prior to shooting someone that is on your property, you must give them a warning accompanied with a reasonable amount of time to leave, unless they pose a threat. (Minimum amount of time is 5 seconds before you are authorized to defend your property.)

 

13. When raiding/defending, only players that are on property/posing a threat and near the property can be killed. Having a gun in hand or being in the raiding/basing organization within name tagging distance is considered a threat. Citizens or Government Employee's that have no association with the property and intrudes during a raid can be shot on sight without warning if seen on the property.

 

14. Shops are for retail purposes only! This means you can not grow drugs in shops OR raid shops. You may only molotov a shop if you are a direct rival to the shop owner (i.e you are also a show owner and are selling similar items) and both of you have been selling legitimately for at least 15 minutes.

 

15. No racism, trolling, minging, disrespecting other players or admins, douchebaggery, advertising other servers or websites, spamming on the microphone or in chat, and constantly complaining or griefing.

 

16. Do not abuse OOC or /advert. This means do not complain in chat about issues that occur in the server. Also, do not use /advert for anything other than in character advertising or threats to the mayor.

 

17. No hacking, scripting, botting, or exploiting of any kind. An example of exploitation would be copying a system 911 alert, or using props that are see-through on one side but not the other, or.

 

18. You cannot have other people assist you when robbing and fleeing from the bank.

 

19. You cannot build a barricade in a base you are raiding.

 

20. You cannot kill a cop for pulling you over/RPing with you/ticketing you or a tow truck driver for towing your vehicle.

 

21. Gangs CANNOT team up against the mayor in regards to kidnapping/assassination.

 

22. Mugging is not allowed, meaning you cannot go up to a person and randomly ask for a ransom and hurt them after x amount of time.

 

23. You may only give /advert death threats to the mayor regarding taxes once taxes are above 10%. You must give a minimum of three pay checks to allow the mayor to comply. Once the time period passes, you may assassinate the mayor.

 

24. You may kidnap and hold the mayor as a hostage for a ransom and/or kill the mayor if no ransom is paid. The mayor must have sat in office for at least 15 minutes before you are able to do this, and you must wait 15 minutes in between kidnappings. The ransom can be no larger than $3,000 and you must give at least 3 paychecks for someone to pay it. If no one pays it, you have permission to assassinate the mayor.

 

25. Once you pick a lock or throw a molotov at someone's base, it initiates a raid and you MUST continue the raid (i.e. Try to enter the base) within 6 minutes (360 seconds) or the raid is declared over. If you fail to successfully raid a property after 6 minutes, you must leave and the raid cooldown period will be applied.

 

26. You may not bait cops. While warranted, you must try to evade and run from the cops, not hunt down or bait them.

 

27. You cannot sell your property while you are being raided, you must wait until after said raid is over to do so.

 

28. If you plan to use multiple properties as one base, you must own the properties that you wish to use as a base and set up props accordingly. For example, if you wish to use the Apartments as a base and plan to use the 2nd Floor and up, you must own all apartments on the floors that you wish to base on and upward (i.e own Apartment 203, 204 and the Penthouse).

 

29. An organization may only raid a place it has previously raided every 30 minutes. This break period starts after the raid is over, not when it starts and is applied across the raiding organization, regardless of who raided a specific place before you. If you die during a raid, you are under NLR for the duration of the raid, and may only return once the raid is concluded. If the org has multiple bases within the same area (i.e both org bases are in Suburbs), you may not return to defend one if you died at another.

 

30. You cannot defend the property of another organization than your own unless you are grouped/actively basing with another organization. You may counter-raid a raiding organization as long as you continue the raiding of the base. All usual raid rules apply at this stage.

 

31. Your car is considered a property. When warning someone to get off of or to stop hitting your car, you must give a reasonable amount of time (5 seconds). If they fail to do so, you have the right to kill them. (i.e. Using a bat or their fists to punch your car or standing ontop of it repeatedly.)

 

32. Fight Clubs in public are not allowed. However in private property, one on one fighting is allowed (both parties must agree a place, an admin must be notified and give consent to doing so).

 

33. Do not place or drive vehicles in buildings that do not have garage access. (i.e Driving your vehicle into the nexus, hospital, apartments, etc...)

 

34. No random car bombs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Government Official Rules

 

1. Do your job correctly at all times. There is no such thing as a "dirty" government employee. If you witness a crime, you must report it.

 

2. Turn off your radio, unless you are using it for official government discussion. Note; The "T" key toggles government voice communications on and off.

 

3. If you are responding to an emergency, make sure to turn on your lights and sirens, and to let your fellow employees know over /radio (if possible). If you have to stop while responding, leave your overhead lights on.

 

4. No government official is allowed to grow illegal substances or own any buildings, and all ties to your organization/friends are lost.

 

5. No warranting while unconscious.

 

6. Automatic weapons are arrest on sight, regardless of where they're seen. Players with shotguns are arrest on sight only when they're seen with one in public. Having a gun on your back does NOT mean it is on "private property".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Police

 

1. As an officer of the law, you must have 100% proof prior to requesting a warrant on someone or some place. Seeing illegal substances through a wall or hearing about it through OOC is NOT viable proof.

 

2. Do not random ticket. Any car parked neatly on the side of the road with two wheels on and two wheels off of either the white line or curb vertically is legal parking. Also, cars that are left unattended for an extended amount of time at a gas pump may be ticketed. THEY ARE NOT PARKING SPACES!

 

3. When pulling someone over, you must ask them to pull over prior to any use of force.

 

4. If someone is only evading, you may only use non-lethal force in an attempt to apprehend them. Only if your life or someone else's is directly threatened, you may use lethal force.

 

5. You may not be an escort to the mayor, unless his life is in immediate danger.

 

6. Spike strips and the police baton are to be used in extreme situations (i.e for popping tyres and checkpoints). Do not misuse them.

 

7. If you are the police chief, you must obey the proper warranting procedure.

 

8. Checkpoints are only allowed if authorized by the mayor and they must be able to give passage to one full vehicle at any given time. Checkpoints are also allowed to be molotoved, but must be warned, via /advert, that it must be taken down within a 3 paycheck time limit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SWAT

 

1. SWAT are primarily for responding to raids and robberies. They may not perform actions against petty offenses such as pursue a criminal fleeing from a ticket, that's a cop's job.

 

2. SWAT need to be mobile at all times until called upon. They cannot sit in the city waiting for a robbery for example.

 

3. If your life or someone else's is directly threatened, you may use lethal force.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Secret Service

 

1. Your only job is to protect the mayor, nothing else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mayor

 

1. You must roleplay any major changes to taxes.

 

2. You must issue warrants appropriately.

 

3. You may not make drugs, guns or ammo of any sort and you may NOT kill anyone for any reason. You have your police force and secret service to handle those situations.

 

4. If you are kidnapped and are no longer in the hands of the kidnappers, you MUST make a statement, via /broadcast announcing you are free.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Road Crew

 

 

1. Do not randomly tow cars. You may only tow cars if requested by an officer, the car has been in an accident or said vehicle is parked illegally. Also, do not tow government vehicles.

 

2. Do not abuse the anti-respawning system while towing cars. Once you start towing the vehicle, you must make it back to the tow yard in the least amount of time possible. (i.e. You cannot just keep a car on your tow truck just because you dislike the owner of said car.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gang War Rules

 

 

Gang Wars are a Work In Progress again, but for now the rules are not listed. They are currently being worked on. Thanks for understanding!

 

 

 

*Any loopholes and discrepancies will NOT be accepted and If you think you're getting around a rule ask a DL, DS or a Mod first.

 

 

 

 

[spoiler=Old Rules](Pt-Br) Perp 3.0 Regras

 

*These rules apply to: [HG] PERP Lite Server | Content Fixed | Fast DL | NoLaG | HeLLsGamers.com; When you first connect to our server and click the "OK" button, YOU AGREE TO OUR RULES! If you violate our rules, you possibly could be kicked or banned!*

 

 

General Rules

 

1. No metagaming. Metagaming means using in character content (ICC) in out of character chat (OOC) or any outside source other than in-game.

 

2. No forcing people to crouch under or jump over props/entities in order to enter a base.

 

3. Suiciding to avoid RP is strictly prohibited. (i.e. Killing yourself to restore legs or jumping in front of a vehicle to avoid arrest.)

 

4. No breaking New Life Rule (NLR). This means you may not return to the place or area at which you died for 300 seconds. Also, upon respawning, you have no memory of your previous life. If you are revived by a medic, however, you are able to remember all that happened before. (This also means that if you died during a raid, you may NOT return to the base until the raid is over.)

 

5. No randomly killing people (RDM) or running people over with your car on purpose (CDM) for no reason what-so-ever. This includes killing people for their weapons, because they said something mean to you, revenge killing, random molotoving, etc... Also, you must make a serious attempt to avoid people while driving.

 

6. No punch-whoring. Do not randomly hit people with your fists or a bat for no reason.

 

7. No prop climbing, vehicle climbing or people stacking is allowed unless it is able to be done in real-life. Meaning, you cannot use props, vehicles, or people in order to reach a part of the map you would not normally be able to reach in real-life, this is a role-playing server after all. Along with this, you cannot make ramps to see over certain areas while basing and you cannot jump onto the roof or awnings of shops.

 

8. Prop surfing, prop pushing and prop blocking are strictly prohibited. Meaning, you cannot use a prop to boost you up to a location you would not normally be able to reach in real-life, you cannot push props, vehicles or people with another prop and you cannot use props to block off an area of the map and/or all access to your base when basing. You may, however, block off all but ONE entrance/exit to your base, as long as there is a way to get into AND out of your base.

 

9. No growing in un-owned places. If you or a friend does not own the property and you cannot unlock/lock the doors, you may not grow there. As a side note, you may not grow in a vehicle. (If pots are left out in public view and not in a property, they are fair game to get.) Note; It's no one's property so you CANNOT kill over it!

 

10. No anti-afking. This means do not abuse any keyboard or mouse commands in order to circumvent the away from keyboard (AFK) system.

 

11. No custom jobs are allowed that promote breaking rules or RDM.

 

12. In order to sell any items, you must own a shop and sell exclusively inside of the shop. This means you may not sell out in the street and your car is not a shop.

 

13. Prior to shooting someone that is on your property, you must give them a warning accompanied with a reasonable amount of time to leave, unless they pose a threat. (A reasonable amount of time is 5 seconds.)

 

14. If you are raiding/defending, you may only kill players if they are actually on the property or if they are posing a threat AND near the property. A threat constitutes having a gun in their hand or being in the raiding/basing organization and being near the property is being within name-tag distance of the property. If a citizen or a government official, who has no association with the property, comes onto the property during a raid and is not posing a threat, he/she does not have to be warned to leave the property and can be shot upon being seen ON the property.

 

15. Shops are for retail purposes only! This means you can not grow drugs in shops OR raid shops. You may only molotov a shop if you are a direct rival to the shop owner (i.e you are also a show owner and are selling similar items) and both of you have been selling legitimately for at least 15 minutes.

 

16. Traffic laws are in effect at ALL times. Please try to roleplay drive as best as you possibly can.

 

17. No racism, trolling, minging, disrespecting other players or admins, douchebaggery, advertising other servers or websites, spamming on the microphone or in chat, and constantly complaining or griefing.

 

18. Do not abuse OOC or /advert. This means do not complain in chat about issues that occur in the server. Also, do not use /advert for anything other than in character advertising or threats to the mayor.

 

19. No committing suicide or disconnecting from the server in order to avoid arrest or any form of punishment from an admin.

 

20. No hacking, scripting, botting, or exploiting of any kind. An example of exploitation would be copying a system 911 alert, or using props that are see-through on one side but not the other.

 

21. You cannot have other people assist you when robbing and fleeing from the bank.

 

22. You cannot build a barricade in a base you are raiding.

 

23. You cannot kill a cop for ticketing your vehicle or a tow truck driver for towing your vehicle.

 

24. One may not use props to make ramps for vehicles to drive off of.

 

25. Gangs CANNOT team up against the mayor in regards to kidnapping/assassination.

 

26. Mugging is not allowed, meaning you cannot go up to a person and randomly ask for a ransom and hurt them after x amount of time.

 

27. You cannot kill someone else for the purpose of getting revenge for a person that is not in your organization.

 

28. You may only give /advert death threats to the mayor regarding taxes once taxes are above 10%. You must give a minimum of three pay checks to allow the mayor to comply. Once the time period passes, you may assassinate the mayor.

 

29. You may kidnap and hold the mayor as a hostage for a ransom and/or kill the mayor if no ransom is paid. The mayor must have sat in office for at least 20 minutes before you are able to do this, and you must wait 20 minutes in between kidnappings. The ransom can be no larger than $3,000 and you must give 5 paychecks for someone to pay it. If no one pays it, you have permission to assassinate the mayor.

 

30. Once you pick a lock or throw a molotov at someone's base, it initiates a raid and you MUST continue the raid (i.e. Try to enter the base) within 5 minutes (300 seconds) or the raid is declared over.

 

31. You may not bait cops. While warranted, you should try to evade and run from the cops, not hunt down or bait them.

 

32. You cannot sell your property while you are being raided, you must wait until after said raid is over to do so .

 

33. If you plan to use multiple properties as one base, you must own the properties that you wish to use as a base and set up props accordingly. For example, if you wish to use the Apartments as a base and plan to use the 2nd Floor and up, you must own all apartments on the floors that you wish to base on and upward (i.e own Apartment 203, 204 and the Penthouse).

 

34. An organization may only raid a place it has previously raided every 30 minutes. This break period starts after the raid is over, not when it starts and is applied to all organizations, regardless of what org raided a specific place. If you die during a raid, you are under NLR for the duration of the raid, and may only return once the raid is concluded. If the org has multiple bases within the same area (i.e both org bases are in Suburbs), you may not return to defend one if you died at another.

 

35. You cannot defend the property of another organization than your own from the outside of the base being raided. You may, however, counter-raid a raiding organization as long as you CONTINUE to raid the base, meaning you cannot just stop the raid after you defeat the raiding organization as this would not be RP.

 

36. Your car is considered a property. When warning someone to get off of or to stop hitting your car, you must give a reasonable amount of time (5 seconds). If they fail to do so, you have the right to kill them. (i.e. Using a bat or their fists to punch your car or standing ontop of it repeatedly.)

 

37. Fight Clubs are not allowed. (i.e. Making an arena on a property for people to fist fight.)

 

38. Do not place or drive vehicles in buildings that do not have garage access. (e.i. Driving your vehicle into the nexus, hospital, apartments, etc...)

 

39. No random car bombs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Government Official Rules

 

1. If you are a government official and witness a crime, you must report it.

 

2. If you are a government employee, you must do your job correctly ALL the time. There is no such thing as a "dirty" government employee.

 

3. Turn off your radio, unless you are using it for official government discussion. Note; The "T" key toggles government voice communications on and off.

 

4. If you are stopped in the middle of the road for an emergency, make sure to turn on your overhead lights.

 

5. If you are responding to an emergency, make sure to turn on your lights and sirens.

 

6. No government official is allowed to grow illegal substances or own any buildings.

 

7. When becoming a government employee, all ties to your organization/friends are lost.

 

8. No warranting while unconscious.

 

9. Unless it is on private property, shotguns and automatic weapons are arrest on sight. However, shotguns are not arrest on sight if the player is on private property. Note; Just because the gun is on your back does NOT mean it is on "private property".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Police

 

1. As an officer of the law, you must have 100% proof prior to requesting a warrant on someone or some place. Seeing illegal substances through a wall or hearing about it through OOC is NOT viable proof.

 

2. Do not random ticket. Any car parked neatly on the side of the road with two wheels on and two wheels off of either the white line or curb vertically is legal parking. Also, cars that are left unattended for an extended amount of time at a gas pump may be ticketed. THEY ARE NOT PARKING SPACES!

 

3. When pulling someone over, you must ask them to pull over prior to any use of force.

 

4. If someone is only evading, you may only use non-lethal force in an attempt to apprehend them.

 

5. If your life or someone else's is directly threatened, you may use lethal force.

 

6. You may not be an escort to the mayor, unless his life is in immediate danger.

 

7. Do not misuse your police baton.

 

8. If you are the police chief, you must obey the proper warranting procedure.

 

9. Checkpoints are only allowed if authorized by the mayor and they must be able to give passage to one full vehicle at any given time. Checkpoints are also allowed to be molotoved, but must be warned, via /advert, that it must be taken down within a 3 paycheck time limit.

 

10. Spike strips are meant only to pop tires and to be used in checkpoints. NOTHING ELSE!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SWAT

 

1. As SWAT, you may tell players to remove their weapons in public, just like police may. SWAT are primarily there for responding to raids and robberies, but are given an exception when it comes to enforcing gun control.

 

2. SWAT CANNOT follow and/or pursue a criminal fleeing from a ticket, that's a cop's job.

 

3. SWAT CANNOT just sit in front of the government building and loiter because that is a type of "camping". They need to keep moving at all times until called upon.

 

4. If someone is only evading, you may only use non-lethal force in an attempt to apprehend them.

 

5. If your life or someone else's is directly threatened, you may use lethal force.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Secret Service

 

1. Your only job is to protect the mayor, nothing else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mayor

 

1. You must roleplay any major changes to taxes.

 

2. You must issue warrants appropriately.

 

3. You may not make drugs, guns or ammo of any sort and you may NOT kill anyone for any reason. You have your police force and secret service to handle those situations.

 

4. You cannot set laws as the mayor UNLESS that law is approved by a Moderator or Administrator.

 

5. If kidnapped and it is over (i.e. You are no longer in the hands of the kidnapped) you MUST make a statement, via /broadcast) announcing you are free.(If you abuse this when you were not really kidnapped you will be kicked/banned).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Road Crew

 

 

1. Do not randomly tow cars. You may only tow cars if requested by an officer, the car has been in an accident or said vehicle is parked illegally. Also, do not tow government vehicles.

 

2. Do not abuse the anti-respawning system while towing cars. Once you start towing the vehicle, you must make it back to the tow yard in the least amount of time possible. (i.e. You cannot just keep a car on your tow truck just because you dislike the owner of said car.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gang War Rules

 

Gang wars have been temporarily disabled while updating the latest version. Sorry about the inconvenience.

 

 

Spoiler: Rules

 

 

 

*Any loopholes and discrepancies will NOT be accepted and If you think you're getting around a rule ask a DL, DS or a Mod first.

 

 

[dcfire54]

Clear up the Shotgun AOS rule please.

[->SK<-]

What exactly is cause for problems?

 

I just edited it to read ;

 

6. Unless it is on private property, automatic weapons are arrest on sight. Players with shotguns must be warned if seen in public to be put away and given ample time before being arrested. Note; Just because the gun is on your back does NOT mean it is on "private property".

[Cookie]

9. Unless it is on private property, shotguns and automatic weapons are arrest on sight. However, shotguns are not arrest on sight if the player is on private property. Note; Just because the gun is on your back does NOT mean it is on "private property".

 

This is dumb. Shotguns should be illegal in public because people would just bait cops to try to arrest them and autos legal in private is stupider, that means it's legal to sell autos then. Yes let's just remove the black market concept from perp, we should make drugs legal too while we're at it

[Phirewire]

I agree with cookie on this rule, its stupid and destroys all point to police.

6. Unless it is on private property, automatic weapons are arrest on sight. Players with shotguns must be warned if seen in public to be put away and given ample time before being arrested. Note; Just because the gun is on your back does NOT mean it is on "private property".

 

 

 

This rule is just retarded; Please tell me when you have ever seen a swat van just patrolling around your town on back roads waiting for a call.

 

 

2. SWAT need to be mobile at all times until called upon. They cannot sit in the city waiting for a robbery for example.

 

I hate this period. To have a rule listed and then have it over turned by word of mouth goes to show nothing to anyone who logs on mid way threw. "Well an admin said I could" Is stupid. Its a rule period don't have one word of mouth over say another. Set the laws and leave them be or make it so they can be Physically changed in game where players have access to see them not well he said I could do this.

 

4. You cannot set laws as the mayor that would encourage rule breaking. You may not set ridiculous speed limits within city for example (above 50mph). You must request an admin's permission to change laws.

 

Now you have to clarify if they are illegal or legal?

 

32. Fight Clubs in public are not allowed. However in private property, one on one fighting can be admissable (both parties must agree a place and give consent to doing so).

 

I've done large raids where it takes more than 5 minutes just to get threw every door. Try raiding MTL or all of subs in 5 minutes.

 

25. Once you pick a lock or throw a molotov at someone's base, it initiates a raid and you MUST continue the raid (i.e. Try to enter the base) within 5 minutes (300 seconds) or the raid is declared over. If you fail to successfully raid a property after 5 minutes, you must leave and the raid cooldown period will be applied.

 

Can you do it if its a repeat thing?

 

20. You cannot kill a cop for pulling you over/RPing with you/ticketing you or a tow truck driver for towing your vehicle.

[dcfire54]

I agree with cookie on this rule, its stupid and destroys all point to police.

6. Unless it is on private property, automatic weapons are arrest on sight. Players with shotguns must be warned if seen in public to be put away and given ample time before being arrested. Note; Just because the gun is on your back does NOT mean it is on "private property".

 

 

 

This rule is just retarded; Please tell me when you have ever seen a swat van just patrolling around your town on back roads waiting for a call.

 

 

2. SWAT need to be mobile at all times until called upon. They cannot sit in the city waiting for a robbery for example.

 

I hate this period. To have a rule listed and then have it over turned by word of mouth goes to show nothing to anyone who logs on mid way threw. "Well an admin said I could" Is stupid. Its a rule period don't have one word of mouth over say another. Set the laws and leave them be or make it so they can be Physically changed in game where players have access to see them not well he said I could do this.

 

4. You cannot set laws as the mayor that would encourage rule breaking. You may not set ridiculous speed limits within city for example (above 50mph). You must request an admin's permission to change laws.

 

Now you have to clarify if they are illegal or legal?

 

32. Fight Clubs in public are not allowed. However in private property, one on one fighting can be admissable (both parties must agree a place and give consent to doing so).

 

I've done large raids where it takes more than 5 minutes just to get threw every door. Try raiding MTL or all of subs in 5 minutes.

 

25. Once you pick a lock or throw a molotov at someone's base, it initiates a raid and you MUST continue the raid (i.e. Try to enter the base) within 5 minutes (300 seconds) or the raid is declared over. If you fail to successfully raid a property after 5 minutes, you must leave and the raid cooldown period will be applied.

 

Can you do it if its a repeat thing?

 

20. You cannot kill a cop for pulling you over/RPing with you/ticketing you or a tow truck driver for towing your vehicle.

I agree with mark on everything but the shotgun rule.

[Magic]

Shotgun should be arrest on sight in public, and automatics should always be illegal. The automatics in this game are weapons that are not normally obtained through a legal process. I think we should keep an RP aspect when it comes to automatics.

 

Law #2 from the Default Laws

 

2. Possession of Illegal weapons

Rifles and sub machine guns and Shotguns ("WHEN EQUIPPED" in public) are strictly illegal at all times. (i.e. ARREST ON SIGHT)

 

As Cookie said, shotguns in public just seem like a disaster waiting to happen. It really is just a sign of baiting. If we want to think about reality in this situation, since when would people legally be carrying around shotguns in public? Pistols can be made for a reason, they are legal in public.

 

 

1. SWAT are primarily for responding to raids and robberies. They may not perform actions against petty offenses such as pursue a criminal fleeing from a ticket, that's a cop's job.

 

2. SWAT need to be mobile at all times until called upon. They cannot sit in the city waiting for a robbery for example.

 

 

3. If your life or someone else's is directly threatened, you may use lethal force.

 

 

#2 doesn't seem like it should even be a rule. It's common sense.

 

13. When raiding/defending, only players that are on property/posing a threat and near the property can be killed. Having a gun deployed or being in the raiding/basing organization within name tagging distance is considered a threat. Citizens or Government Employee's that have no association with the property and intrudes during a raid can be shot on sight without warning if seen on the property.

 

I would clarify deployed better in this rule. Might be better just to say having a gun in hand constitutes a threat.

Edited March 31, 2016 by Magic

[->SK<-]

I would like to point out at this point that nearly all rules you all have pointed out were in the old ruleset too, I've just carried them forward. Never the less, they will all be looked at again.

 

I will post again once I've brought an edited set of rules in line.

[->SK<-]

The following rules have been changed. They are as follows;

 

6. Automatic weapons are arrest on sight, regardless of where they're seen. Players with shotguns are arrest on sight only when they're seen with one in public. Having a gun on your back does NOT mean it is on "private property".

 

25. Once you pick a lock or throw a molotov at someone's base, it initiates a raid and you MUST continue the raid (i.e. Try to enter the base) within 6 minutes (360 seconds) or the raid is declared over. If you fail to successfully raid a property after 6 minutes, you must leave and the raid cooldown period will be applied.

 

(I only added one more minute to 25, didn't want the pitchforks out in droves.)

 

13. When raiding/defending, only players that are on property/posing a threat and near the property can be killed. Having a gun in hand or being in the raiding/basing organization within name tagging distance is considered a threat. Citizens or Government Employee's that have no association with the property and intrudes during a raid can be shot on sight without warning if seen on the property.

 

The following rule has been removed;

 

4. You cannot set laws as the mayor that would encourage rule breaking. You may not set ridiculous speed limits within city for example (above 50mph). You must request an admin's permission to change laws.

[Cookie]

25. Once you pick a lock or throw a molotov at someone's base, it initiates a raid and you MUST continue the raid (i.e. Try to enter the base) within 6 minutes (360 seconds) or the raid is declared over. If you fail to successfully raid a property after 6 minutes, you must leave and the raid cooldown period will be applied.

However long it takes to raid is how long it takes adding a max time is dumb, people shouldn't actively trying to delay raiding, but you can easily push up to the 15 minute mark raiding as best as you can in the easier spots to defend such as skyscraper and mtl

[souly]

 

5. Do not RDM (Random Death Match) or run people over with your car on purpose (CDM or Car Death Match) for any reason. This includes killing people for their weapons, they said mean things to you, revenge killing, random molotoving, revenge killing for people not in your organization etc. You must make a serious attempt to avoid people while driving.

 

Situation: My org member has an arrest warrant and cops are attempting to arrest him, can I use my car as a weapon against the cops and run them over? A little confused because it says i cant run over anybody on purpose for any reason.

[Suicide]

Situation: My org member has an arrest warrant and cops are attempting to arrest him, can I use my car as a weapon against the cops and run them over? A little confused because it says i cant run over anybody on purpose for any reason.

 

That's allowed. It just basically means doing it for no reason. Should be re-worded.

[MyMindIsBlank]

The following rules have been changed. They are as follows;

 

25. Once you pick a lock or throw a molotov at someone's base, it initiates a raid and you MUST continue the raid (i.e. Try to enter the base) within 6 minutes (360 seconds) or the raid is declared over. If you fail to successfully raid a property after 6 minutes, you must leave and the raid cooldown period will be applied.

 

(I only added one more minute to 25, didn't want the pitchforks out in droves.)

 

Okay let me clarify what the purpose behind the making of this rule and why it was taken out of context.

The main purpose on why this rule was made (old version) when I was dA/dL was because people would lockpick a base and leave a short period and come back, which became a grey area because no one would know if it was considered "another raid" so what the intention of this rule was to avoid that situation. It shouldnt be along the lines of "fail to successfully raid a property it ends at this period" because there are time periods where you have to lock pick, combat against property owners and cops which can over extend the current raid timer. If what Skay was trying to define "successfully raid" as entering the base period then this should be reworded. Also, theres pots that need to be finished growing while a raid is going on so that'd be nice to add in there too before someone complains about that not being in the rules, when it kind of implies a raid is still "active" waiting for drugs to finish.

[Phirewire]

Okay let me clarify what the purpose behind the making of this rule and why it was taken out of context.

The main purpose on why this rule was made (old version) when I was dA/dL was because people would lockpick a base and leave a short period and come back, which became a grey area because no one would know if it was considered "another raid" so what the intention of this rule was to avoid that situation. It shouldnt be along the lines of "fail to successfully raid a property it ends at this period" because there are time periods where you have to lock pick, combat against property owners and cops which can over extend the current raid timer. If what Skay was trying to define "successfully raid" as entering the base period then this should be reworded. Also, theres pots that need to be finished growing while a raid is going on so that'd be nice to add in there too before someone complains about that not being in the rules, when it kind of implies a raid is still "active" waiting for drugs to finish.

 

So essentially set an area, you leave the property the raid is over period. If comes cops and chase you away you are done raiding. You must stand your ground or be done. (I like that.) Obviously a set area around the property would consist of what is "raiding area"

[Phirewire]

25. Once you pick a lock or throw a molotov at someone's base, it initiates a raid and you MUST continue the raid (i.e. Try to enter the base) within 6 minutes (360 seconds) or the raid is declared over. If you fail to successfully raid a property after 6 minutes, you must leave and the raid cooldown period will be applied.

 

As posted above it should be more liek;

 

25.Once you pick a lock or throw a Molotov at someone's base, it initiates a raid and you must continue the raid. If you leave the general vicinity of the base you are raiding the raid is declared over and you may not continue the raid. If the raid is declared over you must wait for the raid cool down period to be over before raiding again. -(note even police forcing you to fall back away from property can push you outside of raiding vicinity is reason for raid to end.)

[Phirewire]

 

 

 

 

This rule is just retarded; Please tell me when you have ever seen a swat van just patrolling around your town on back roads waiting for a call.

 

 

2. SWAT need to be mobile at all times until called upon. They cannot sit in the city waiting for a robbery for example.

 

 

 

Now you have to clarify if they are illegal or legal?

 

32. Fight Clubs in public are not allowed. However in private property, one on one fighting can be admissable (both parties must agree a place and give consent to doing so).

 

 

I still find issues with these two, can we discuss the reasoning or have them changed?

[Suicide]

12. Prior to shooting someone that is on your property, you must give them a warning accompanied with a reasonable amount of time to leave, unless they pose a threat. (Minimum amount of time is 5 seconds before you are authorized to defend your property.)

 

This is absolutely retarded and needs to be discussed and re-worded.

 

This is basically saying, if you own let's say one of the motel rooms outside of the city, a person can run into your house, take all your drugs, and scream "hey you didn't give me a 5 second warning so that's RDM if you kill me".

 

Imo, it needs to be "if you're on someone's front lawn of their property, you must give them a 5 second warning to get off. If you exceed anything past the door line, you are to be shot on sight".

 

Literally makes no sense to allow them through the front door and have to give them a 5 second warning. Not sure how this wasn't discussed or re-worded before.

[Magic]

This is absolutely retarded and needs to be discussed and re-worded.

 

This is basically saying, if you own let's say one of the motel rooms outside of the city, a person can run into your house, take all your drugs, and scream "hey you didn't give me a 5 second warning so that's RDM if you kill me".

 

Imo, it needs to be "if you're on someone's front lawn of their property, you must give them a 5 second warning to get off. If you exceed anything past the door line, you are to be shot on sight".

 

Literally makes no sense to allow them through the front door and have to give them a 5 second warning. Not sure how this wasn't discussed or re-worded before.

 

Pretty sure if someone ran in and took your drugs you could just kill him after that.

Edited April 1, 2016 by Magic

[MyMindIsBlank]

This is absolutely retarded and needs to be discussed and re-worded.

 

This is basically saying, if you own let's say one of the motel rooms outside of the city, a person can run into your house, take all your drugs, and scream "hey you didn't give me a 5 second warning so that's RDM if you kill me".

 

Imo, it needs to be "if you're on someone's front lawn of their property, you must give them a 5 second warning to get off. If you exceed anything past the door line, you are to be shot on sight".

 

Literally makes no sense to allow them through the front door and have to give them a 5 second warning. Not sure how this wasn't discussed or re-worded before.

 

its called stealing, youre allowed to kill them after that point.

[Suicide]

Pretty sure if someone ran in and took your drugs you could just kill him after that.

 

its called stealing, youre allowed to kill them after that point.

 

Either way, they shouldn't be allowed to go past the front door line without being shot on sight. How much sense does that actually make to allow them through the front door and giving them a 5 second warning? They have no business being inside of the property. Being on the lawn, sure, why not I could see why that would require 5 seconds. Past the door? No.

[Magic]

Either way, they shouldn't be allowed to go past the front door line without being shot on sight. How much sense does that actually make to allow them through the front door and giving them a 5 second warning? They have no business being inside of the property. Being on the lawn, sure, why not I could see why that would require 5 seconds. Past the door? No.

 

Think about it this way though, remember what constitutes a raid: lock-pick, molly, gun in hand, aiming, etc... If they're doing any of those things, they can automatically be shot and killed. I'd say if they run in, you warn them, but they continue to run forward, then you know they're not running back so you can kill them then. Not to mention once a raid begins, any same org members can be killed nametag distance.

Edited April 1, 2016 by Magic

[DirtyDNA]

If you give the warning, and they don't turn and leave. Then they aren't listening. = kill

I don't really know what needs to be cleared up here in all honesty.

[FoxHound]

Pretty sure if someone ran in and took your drugs you could just kill him after that.

its called stealing, youre allowed to kill them after that point.

 

stealing the drugs isn't the issue, it's being able to walk past the doorway of a property and be immune if there is no warning.

[Suicide]

Think about it this way though, remember what constitutes a raid: lock-pick, molly, gun in hand, aiming, etc... If they're doing any of those things, they can automatically be shot and killed. I'd say if they run in, you warn them, but they continue to run forward, then you know they're not running back so you can kill them then. Not to mention once a raid begins, any same org members can be killed nametag distance.

 

You're missing my point though. Allowing them to exceed past the door makes absolutely no sense. If someone has the balls to literally run right through your door, then should be shot on sight. It makes absolutely no sense to let them through the door and have to give them a warning.

 

If you give the warning, and they don't turn and leave. Then they aren't listening. = kill

I don't really know what needs to be cleared up here in all honesty.

 

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It's the fact that they need a warning to leave the INSIDE of your property in the first place. You shouldn't be allowed to run through someone's front door and proceed to be unharmed if they aren't warned.

 

That's like the doors being unlocked in sky, they run all the way up, through the elevator, and get to the top and then standing there staring at everyone. You think people won't shoot? Everyone will unload fire on that guy. Then they'd be all eligible to be reported for RDM.... 0 sense behind it

[Fallen]

You're missing my point though. Allowing them to exceed past the door makes absolutely no sense. If someone has the balls to literally run right through your door, then should be shot on sight. It makes absolutely no sense to let them through the door and have to give them a warning.

 

 

 

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It's the fact that they need a warning to leave the INSIDE of your property in the first place. You shouldn't be allowed to run through someone's front door and proceed to be unharmed if they aren't warned.

 

That's like the doors being unlocked in sky, they run all the way up, through the elevator, and get to the top and then standing there staring at everyone. You think people won't shoot? Everyone will unload fire on that guy. Then they'd be all eligible to be reported for RDM.... 0 sense behind it

 

Yeah but then you have people who will leave their apartment unlocked, and people can just walk in and die, or they could choose who to kill and not be rdming. Sucks both ways