Never trust a hippie Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Hey guys i just wanted to bring something to your attention. Im having a slight problem with what i am getting from paid admin and what HG says i should get. I pay by the month for premium admin. I and all admins should have some immunities. Because thats what you say we should have. I dont have and never did have any. I just think its kinda bad to advertise that and not give it. It is becoming a problem for me because i play alot of jail Break... Sometimes i have to kill an admin, like today for example. I gave a command for all T's to take 1 step out of their cells and unstack. An admin in VIP decided to unstack so much that he was by the big cage. I killed him for being more than 1 step out and i got slayed because I gave the order to unstack and apparently you can go as far as you want away from cells to unstack... Bullshit i know. So Please PLEASE fix admin immunities. Edited November 21, 2009 by Never trust a hippie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1ckkkkk Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I know higher admins have immunities from lower admins Cause i knowi cant slay or mute or whatever certain admins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsniperx7 (FEESH) Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 From: https://hellsgamers.com/?pageid=admininfo Admin Immunity: * Kick Immunity * Ban Immunity * Slay Immunity * Team Balance Immunity * Ping Immunity * Mute Immunity * Reserve Slot Immunity They advertise that you get all of this... It never says what kind of admin you have to buy it simply says "Admin Immunities". So any person wanting to buy admin would assume that they would get all of these immunities after they have read the admin info page. If they aren't that's false advertising -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never trust a hippie Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 exatcly what i mean snipe. I was slayed for no reason last nite and BANNED FOR 4 HOURS!!! by a guy today. I didnt buy premium admin to get banned for no reason. PLEASE FIX MY IMMUNITIES( at least ban ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slazenger Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I'm not going to use this as an excuse...but there are times when admins should not have this immunity. I have to slay admins when they freekill in JB and refuse to kill themselves. I've had to kick an admin who was arguing and swearing over admin all chat. And I've recently perma-banned an admin (with staff approval) who had a racist spray. So I understand your frustration...but sometimes admins shouldn't have immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiri-Jolith Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 It's not that the immunities aren't there. The immunities you have as an admin are based on what level admin that you have. The higher level your admin, the more immunities and such you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never trust a hippie Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) It's not that the immunities aren't there. The immunities you have as an admin are based on what level admin that you have. The higher level your admin, the more immunities and such you have. May be the case but the point im trying to make is regarding the Admin Rules page where it says Admins get: bla bla bla * Kick Immunity * Ban Immunity * Slay Immunity * Team Balance Immunity * Ping Immunity * Mute Immunity * Reserve Slot Immunity Im just reading what is there, When i bought my admin that was there and it still is so I DESERVE THEM. Im not trying to be a dick believe me, I think people should get what they paid for. It does not say anything as to levels of whatever. Maybe they should change the Admin rules page to suit what is actually happening as not to confuse the people who have bought and are thinking about buying admin. Just saying if its there under WHAT ADMINS GET then thats what they should get! If not its false advertising... Im telling HG this because i noticed this mistake and i dont want anyone to get really pissed and take legal action or some shit. Also I dont want to make a new topic so can i please have some immunity, I think im a good admin and my mom says im handsome. Edited November 21, 2009 by Never trust a hippie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1ckkkkk Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 It's not that the immunities aren't there. The immunities you have as an admin are based on what level admin that you have. The higher level your admin, the more immunities and such you have. Kiri Well this goes for Jailbreak as thats only admin ive had Basic Paying admins really have no immunities form other admins as ive slayed slayed and moved other admins Only ones that have immunities are higher admins which isnt right because Paying admins should have immunity as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinta Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Technically it isn't false advertisement regardless of the level of admin you have. You are immune to all those things based off the public vote options such as "voteslay." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never trust a hippie Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) well all i know Kinta is that it says i should get those immunities and i do not have them as i was BANNED TODAY!!! If you want to get technical (and i know you do) Then it should say You are immune to all those things based off the public vote options such as "voteslay." in the Admin Rule page!!!If a non staff member replies again with this insane logic ima pull my hair out... Honestly it kinda erks me that im not getting what it say i should be, if it doesnt change i wont be renewing admin sorry. Edited November 21, 2009 by Never trust a hippie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIZZLY Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 You would probably get a better reply out of this if you talked to a staff memeber on vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiri-Jolith Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hippie, you want to know why the low level admins don't have those immunities? It's because people like you went around doing shit and nobody could do shit about it because they were immune to everything. Only people who could do anything were people with council level powers. That's why paying and lower level admins don't have immunities anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never trust a hippie Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 people like me huh? Do you even know me? If some things got changed because of what you say then why not go the extra step and change what it says all admins are supposed to get? It just doesn't make sense to write one thing down and then say oh thats not right... Thank you for the input but does anybody understand that either the Admin rules page needs to be modified or all admins should have immunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koragan Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Or you could just not do stuff to get yourself banned. Thats always worked for me in the past.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never trust a hippie Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 this is why i was banned https://hellsgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14158 and thats why i need ban immunity. It is written down that i should have it. That is my arguement. I made this post before i was banned, it was just a co-incidence that admin banned me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slazenger Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I don't think admins should have immunity, but i think we should take down the advertisement that says that to avoid confusion. Pure and simple. =] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle<3 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hippie, your not going to get some immunity cause you were falsely banned. If everyone had this immunity then there would be no point to having said admin because you wouldn't be able to touch most people. Now I will bring this up to someone who has the power to edit the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 people like me huh? Do you even know me? I do remember a lot of one week bans from you without any ban reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle<3 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 people like me huh? Do you even know me? OH and I never see you ever on Vent or anything so I cant say I do bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Lamp Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Ok, WOAH. Everyone chill out. Immunities right now aren't because of anyone's actions, but simply the limits of Source Mod. Basically, SM uses a numerical system to define class based immunities. For example: Class A has immunity level 100. Class B has immunity level 50. Class C has immunity level 25. Now, in this example, Class A has immunity from admins in B and C because his immunity level is higher. However, he does NOT have immunity to other A's because they are ALSO level 100. SM requires the immunity level to be GREATER THAN someone else's level for it to grant immunity, not equal to. I'll try to track down the immunity system wherever it is in SM and try to edit it. However, this might take me a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patr!ck Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Ok, WOAH. Everyone chill out. Immunities right now aren't because of anyone's actions, but simply the limits of Source Mod. Basically, SM uses a numerical system to define class based immunities. For example: Class A has immunity level 100. Class B has immunity level 50. Class C has immunity level 25. Now, in this example, Class A has immunity from admins in B and C because his immunity level is higher. However, he does NOT have immunity to other A's because they are ALSO level 100. SM requires the immunity level to be GREATER THAN someone else's level for it to grant immunity, not equal to. Copy pasted from [sM]'s readme ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never trust a hippie Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 Ok, WOAH. Everyone chill out. Immunities right now aren't because of anyone's actions, but simply the limits of Source Mod. Basically, SM uses a numerical system to define class based immunities. For example: Class A has immunity level 100. Class B has immunity level 50. Class C has immunity level 25. Now, in this example, Class A has immunity from admins in B and C because his immunity level is higher. However, he does NOT have immunity to other A's because they are ALSO level 100. SM requires the immunity level to be GREATER THAN someone else's level for it to grant immunity, not equal to. I'll try to track down the immunity system wherever it is in SM and try to edit it. However, this might take me a while. Thank you for clarifying Lamp, Does the Admin Rule page still need to be edited? Also it would be nice if i could get ban immunity, at least -__- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Is there an urgent reason that you apparently need the ban immunity for? In the meanwhile if you get wrongfully banned, come in vent or make a post, whichever fits the situation appropriately, till the work that Lamp implied has been completed. Also, thanks for bringing up the page to us. Since the switch from Mani to SM, things in the new system are still being worked to mirror some settings as we had configured in Mani -- see Lamp's post for a possible example. Please be more civilized and keep the gnashing to PMs, ladies. We know we can be more classy than this, correct? Thank you, come again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Lamp Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I'll edit the page. Is it the Admin purchase page that states it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 https://hellsgamers.com/?pageid=admininfo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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