Yoohoo Posted April 25, 2010 Author Share Posted April 25, 2010 Yes but obstacle is a GAME! Most of the ways to trap Ts are games or something that at least keeps it interesting for Ts. Trying to figure out how to stand on your bunk in the tiny 5 second time limit that one gets, is NOT FUN IN ANYWAY(except for the CTS). And in other servers the maps are totally different, the bunks are further/closer to the ceiling. It doesnt matter how easy you guys think this is. The fact is that a good amount of players on the server cannot do this, and probably never will, or if they do it will be very inconsisitent. This order leads to free killing and dissapointment from the Ts in our server. It needs to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never trust a hippie Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 why was no poll made for this here??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaincracker Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 No one likes dying at 5:30 and waiting 5 minutes just to play.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cefdinir Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 (edited) Still makes no sense. It's a simple order that takes maybe a whole 15 seconds to get down packed if practiced. What's next? Banning fountain jump? Not everyone can achieve that either. http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/zv/bunkjump.dem this was on the Jailbreak #2 server, go practice get skill. 69.162.66.139:27015 Edited April 25, 2010 by Cefdinir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa John Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Still makes no sense. It's a simple order that takes maybe a whole 15 seconds to get down packed if practiced. What's next? Banning fountain jump? Not everyone can achieve that either. http://zhost.hellsgamers.com/u/zv/bunkjump.dem this was on the Jailbreak #2 server, go practice. 69.162.66.139:27015 And there is the problem. Jailbreak is fun, and its suppose to be fun. The people who play jailbreak go there to use the least amount of brain power as possible (and it shows -.-). So in order to comply with this, its usually best not put in situations where a person must stand at this exact spot while doing x to get to y. In addition being in such a confined space any T that doesn't follow orders will get his surrounding T friends killed when the CT's open fire. So in a nutshell Jailbreak + though = Free Killing Unfunness (It is a word) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast702 Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 if that was true about least amount of brain power everyone wouldn't know how to play and get freekilled every round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoohoo Posted April 26, 2010 Author Share Posted April 26, 2010 Obviously least amount of brain power does not mean that everyone in the server is completely stupid. The majority of the players know how to follow rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeman Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 i did this order without any problem, this is just another stupid trick that everyone will eventually catch on to and then when the kill amounts gets smaller and smaller it will not be used anymore. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast702 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 thank you weeman so can we /thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoohoo Posted April 26, 2010 Author Share Posted April 26, 2010 My main problem with this order is that its hard to tell if you are actually doing it correctly. Most tarps bank on the T's not being smart enough or not paying enough attention to know if the lead said evil simon or simon, and other things like that. This tarp, however, is not like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cefdinir Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Bumping this thread because I still think this order has still gone unresolved. In the current MOTD it states, "Orders that will result in the mass killing of T's while they are still in their cells are banned, use your common sense." Which is entirely vague in itself. Plus this change came after the lastest post in this thread. On the other hand, Weeman0313, in this thread, has cleared "stand on your bunks" as easily doable order. I am confused. In comparison, I don't understand how "stand on your bunks" is a hard objective to complete while Obstacle Course is still impossible for me to finish and I have been playing on HG's Jailbreak for about ten months. http://motd.bortweb.com/jb/ Thanks, Ceffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaMigra Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 It is not a hard order.... keep it and stop complaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cefdinir Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 I am not complaining. I am all for this order. There's just a little bit miscommunication here. I <3 LaMigra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4ithl3ss Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 I'll say this again, this order defeats the point of jailbreak, when new players come into the server and this happens what will they think? It's a pointless way to eliminate T's and it's the reason jailbreak is dying, the current MOTD bans stupid orders like this in cells because it's just fucking stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cefdinir Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) I'll say this again, this order defeats the point of jailbreak, when new players come into the server and this happens what will they think? It's a pointless way to eliminate T's and it's the reason jailbreak is dying, the current MOTD bans stupid orders like this in cells because it's just fucking stupid Like I said before, IT'S A FUCKING GAME!!. If there is no challenge to a game then why call it a game? Jailbreak is already an easy enough game to play. Why dumb it down even more? If difficult orders are not given then the round ends and no LR. And getting to LR is one of the main goals, right? Trust me, new players come and go. It's regular players on the server you want to keep and make happy. Edited May 1, 2010 by Cefdinir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clams Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) Hi i think crouch orders should be banned too cause it hurts my pinky When ever i give the order i give them at least 20 seconds to do it. Above all isn't the point of the game to give orders and eliminate Ts. Edited May 1, 2010 by Clams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4ithl3ss Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Hi i think crouch orders should be banned too cause it hurts my pinky When ever i give the order i give them at least 20 seconds to do it. Above all isn't the point of the game to give orders and eliminate Ts. There are binds for crouching from here to there and staying crouched. I press the down arrow key once and I'm crouched the rest of the game. Cefdinir, what you're saying is incredibly fucking stupid, the realpoint of jailbreak is to follow orders and have fun, not to be in your cells for 2 minutes and do stupid bullshit and get eliminated, only to watch others play the games for 5 minutes because you couldn't get close enough to the edge of your bunk in 5 seconds, it's just plain fucking stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1ckkkkk Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Faithless stop calling people names because of their opinion. This isn't a thread to flame others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4ithl3ss Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Faithless stop calling people names because of their opinion. This isn't a thread to flame others First of all, Cef is a close friend of mine, and secondly, I'd like you to point out one insult towards cefdinir in that post, thanks dumbass <--- direct insult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoohoo Posted May 1, 2010 Author Share Posted May 1, 2010 Cef- Since when does a game have to have challenge to be called a game? and that is one fucking order. Im not saying to take out every order, this one is just so fucking stupid it should be taken out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bort Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 i think they should order people to stand on their sinks and toilets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cefdinir Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) Cefdinir, what you're saying is incredibly fucking stupid, the realpoint of jailbreak is to follow orders and have fun, not to be in your cells for 2 minutes and do stupid bullshit and get eliminated, only to watch others play the games for 5 minutes because you couldn't get close enough to the edge of your bunk in 5 seconds, it's just plain fucking stupid. You have no supporting reasons to your statement, thus your argument is invalid. l2debate Cef- Since when does a game have to have challenge to be called a game? and that is one fucking order. Im not saying to take out every order, this one is just so fucking stupid it should be taken out. First of all lets look at the definition of the word "game". game - [geym] Show IPA noun, adjective,gam·er, gam·est, verb,gamed, gam·ing. –noun a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators. Game | Define Game at Dictionary.com The word that should pop out to you (if not it is bolded) is the word "skill". To develop a skill you must overcome a challenge. Thus there would be a challenge in a game. If not, jailbreak would be just a server full of players running around doing nothing. As Weeman has stated earlier in this thread that Ts will overcome the challenge of standing on their bunks once they develop the skill to do so. With skill comes repetition. Repetition is practice. Edited May 2, 2010 by Cefdinir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4ithl3ss Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) You have no supporting reasons to your statement, thus your argument is invalid. l2debate First of all lets look at the definition of the word "game". game - [geym] Show IPA noun, adjective,gam·er, gam·est, verb,gamed, gam·ing. �₉€œnoun a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators. Game | Define Game at Dictionary.com The word that should pop out to you (if not it is bolded) is the word "skill". To develop a skill you must overcome a challenge. Thus there would be a challenge in a game. If not, jailbreak would be just a server full of players running around doing nothing. As Weeman has stated earlier in this thread that Ts will overcome the challenge of standing on their bunks once they develop the skill to do so. With skill comes repetition. Repetition is practice. LOL I'm so glad you took the time out of your day to put this together. The reason supporting my argument is jailbreak is meant to have fun, not to get caught up on something so stupid. fun    /fÊŒn/ Show Spelled [fuhn] Show IPA noun, verb,funned, fun·ning, adjective –noun 1. something that provides mirth or amusement: A picnic would be fun. To me, and to pretty much everyone, standing on a bunk isn't very fun, nor is waiting 5 minutes to play the game again just because you weren't able to stand on said bunk. The word that should pop out to you, Cef, is amusement. Edited May 2, 2010 by F4ithl3ss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cefdinir Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) LOL I'm so glad you took the time out of your day to put this together. The reason supporting my argument is jailbreak is meant to have fun, not to get caught up on something so stupid. fun �₉€š �₉€š/f�Å’n/ Show Spelled [fuhn] Show IPA noun, verb,funned, fun·ning, adjective �₉€œnoun 1. something that provides mirth or amusement: A picnic would be fun. To me, and to pretty much everyone, standing on a bunk isn't very fun, nor is waiting 5 minutes to play the game again just because you weren't able to stand on said bunk. I see that you didn't cite your definition. Thus, your argument, again, is invalid. Besides you irrelevant support. To me, i don't think waiting for the next round after I die on Obstacle Course is very fun either. In addition, there is no fun in waiting for the next round when I can't do a 360 to second soda machine. See how it doesn't make sense? What's next, banning those orders too? Edited May 2, 2010 by Cefdinir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4ithl3ss Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I see that you didn't cite your definition. Thus, your argument, again, is invalid. Besides you irrelevant support. To me, i don't think waiting for the next round after I die on Obstacle Course is very fun either. In addition, there is no fun in waiting for the next round when I can't do a 360 to second soda machine. See how it doesn't make sense? What's next, banning those orders too? Webster's Dictionary is my source, and, no, those are legitimate games not stupid and pointless orders used to eliminate as many T's as possible as early as possible to protect yourself from a rebellion. If you'd like to pull all of these bullshit cars, look at it this way. What if you weren't able to stand on your bunk? What if you couldn't do it? For 4 rounds in a row, the lead CT ordered the T's to stand on their bunks and you weren't able to figure it out. I don't think I'd ever see you back in jailbreak, Therefore, HG would be losing a potential member. We don't want that, we want the server to be fun for everyone, not have them never come back because they were waiting 20 minutes to play and got fed up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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