Slazenger Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I'm going to put this out there and I'm sure the entire staff team will support me. Some things are out of control, especially on Jailbreak, Gmod, and Minigames (and to a lesser extent, nearly all of our servers). I want to make it clear where we as clan stand on this issues in case the numerous threads, MOTDs, and word of mouth is not enough. tl;dr: Don't disrespect anyone and don't use your admin in inappropriate ways. The disrespect coming from recruits and a lot of our new admins is out of control. It needs to stop. Disrespect Disrespect in any form is not tolerated. Disrespect that is excessive or personal in nature will result in a ban, regardless of whether you are a player, admin, member, recruit, or a nobody. If it is serious enough it can be grounds for demotion, as evidenced by a handful of members in the past. While wearing HG tags, you are representing the clan and every one of our members. When you do something idiotic or offensive, it reflects poorly upon us all. Admins Admins are not to use their admin as an advantage. Members and admins are to not entice admins or try to use trickery to get them to abuse.Case in point, new admins have been asking for help with commands and established members ([HG] and HG |) have explained how to do commands that result in things that are considered admin abuse. Sometimes this leads to abuse reports and that is unacceptable. If someone asks for help, assist them or ignore them. Don't act like an idiot and try to get them in trouble. It will backfire on you. [*]Admin is not a right, it's a privilege and a gift. Use it in that sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Awesome Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Yes slazzy, that's what I'm talking about, and maybe you can through in something with assisting that if an admin is asking how to use a fun command (slap, dizzy, drug) warn them not to use it, or you might lose your admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwik Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I agree with everything that was said! I hate coming to a server and having problems with recruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEE SUPER GERMAN! Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 We need more admins that will use their powers responsibly, not admins who cause trouble. Really, if you're lucky enough to be able to afford admin or have it for being trusted enough in the community, PLEASE, use it wisely! There are plenty of other people out there who can handle responsibility if you are unable to. And last but not least, lets have fun. That's the whole point of this clan, of the games we play, and the friends we make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphaed Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I agree as well, Slaz. People laugh at when I use "Please" and "Thank you" when I make admin messages, but it's to be respectful as well as issue an order. It's better than "don't do it, you fucking idiot" or "shut up noobs" (the latter I saw recently on the JB server). Really, some people have made comments in *DEAD* about how some admins are 'real assholes', to be put in some of the nicest of terms. And honestly, there are times I even want to kick a fellow admin, but cannot because the no using admin against other admins rule. And I dare not report them, for I may bring back the wrath of Weeman. But, I'll keep someone high up in touch when things happen. I keep records (old and new). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1ckkkkk Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I agree as well, Slaz. People laugh at when I use "Please" and "Thank you" when I make admin messages, but it's to be respectful as well as issue an order. It's better than "don't do it, you fucking idiot" or "shut up noobs" (the latter I saw recently on the JB server). Really, some people have made comments in *DEAD* about how some admins are 'real assholes', to be put in some of the nicest of terms. And honestly, there are times I even want to kick a fellow admin, but cannot because the no using admin against other admins rule. And I dare not report them, for I may bring back the wrath of Weeman. But, I'll keep someone high up in touch when things happen. I keep records (old and new). Only reason why Weeman gave you his wrath was the abuse report you made was clearly an accident and you knew it But theres isnt a reason to be "scared" to post abuse though it would only be admin abuse if this disrespect happens through admin chat etc If there is disrepect happening it goes in the ban report/request section with screenshots at the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clams Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I've noticed a lot of thew recruit admins using all chat disrespecting and not listening to anyone higher in the clan. For instance I've seen admins not using any names (most have stooped) using msay to say bye to everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospekt Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 With me, I'm addicted to the Office DM, and I dont see "much" abuse. Really most of it is over mics, people being racist or excessive language, but every once and a while there will be someone spamming or really crossing the line, and I'm not an admin or anything but I always speak up for the HG server in general. And sometimes they actually listen.. But not all us recruits are bringing negative attention to the clan. I am very happy being in this clan and wear the tag proudly, abiding by all rules. I've seen some getting a lil overboard but then again I'm not always on the JB server... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingless Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I like how we have to have a thread about this. It's like high school all over again. Can we replace warnings with these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I've noticed a lot of thew recruit admins using all chat disrespecting and not listening to anyone higher in the clan.For instance I've seen admins not using any names (most have stooped) using msay to say bye to everyone Noticed that a lot, too. Even I try to explain to recruits/new admins on what not to do. I even told someone to check sm_help in console for the list of server commands if they don't know how to work them properly. Still kept on failing with it >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clams Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I think wingless has got it down we just need to reefer anyone new to jailbreak admin tot his thread https://hellsgamers.com/forums/admin-discussion/7629-let-me-make-subject-crystal-clear.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Red Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I feel the disrespect from players happens more and more. JB servers especially. It all starts when a T or someone gets "FKd" and they think fuck you, fuck this, slay yourself, etc. I know i have handled situation wrong, everyone has. But i try to make friends after that and keep people happy. Unfortunatly not everyday is a good day. Today in JB i have a..unamed...person repeatedly disrespect me. However once i talked to siphead, and he told me commands for recording, it happened to stop IMMEDIATLEY. This im tired of. Its one thing for HG to disrespect HG/players, another for players to disrespect FREELY hg and other players. It needs to be stopped. People need to stop spamming over lead constantly because they are mad and things need to be handled by admins or people that can put others in their place. Tl;Dr: Dont disrespect, and people that do need to have consequences rain on their head, HG or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipsnap Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I agree maybe [HG]Hitman should be banned for admin abuse of rights all the time he bans or kicks people on jailbreak when there is no other admin online its stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I agree maybe [HG]Hitman should be banned for admin abuse of rights all the time he bans or kicks people on jailbreak when there is no other admin online its stupid! I dont ban or kick for no reason. When people disrespect I tell him not to.. if he continue sometimes ill kick. but usuly I ban.. I ban you because u disrespect me. And I told you that I would of ban you if u continue and u did. so now ur telling me to unban u if not u will make a abuse post and u have 5 demos. all I would see in ur demos is : slap (pirate day) slay .., kick, ban.. You know what, i dont care you can post it. ill have my admin remove and what ever.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 After 20 times u disrespoect me im getting tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantBeFaded Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I see it as everybody needs to worry about themselves rather that pointing the finger to make yourself look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambush Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT FADED!!! You did it first and i'm telling ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 i say make a lil admin training thing, something that actually gives them experience before they start screwing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slazenger Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 i say make a lil admin training thing, something that actually gives them experience before they start screwing up That would be quite nice. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingless Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 That would be quite nice. <3 I think somebody already tried this with JB. That would be a MASSIVE video if it covered all aspects of adminning on JB. Something for "normal" servers would be pretty easy, though. Anyone have demos of someone shaking all over the place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky2442 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 How about listing some useful commands that normal admins can use, then at the end a quick quiz or something. I mean its not that hard to learn commands for a basic admin >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cefdinir Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 (edited) I think somebody already tried this with JB. That would be a MASSIVE video if it covered all aspects of adminning on JB. Something for "normal" servers would be pretty easy, though. Anyone have demos of someone shaking all over the place? It wouldn't have to be a video, that would be too much work. I think there should be more of one-on-one or "on the job" training. Where a new admin would be paired with an experienced admin for a certain time in the server. I wouldn't mind contributing my time to this. Edited May 5, 2010 by Cefdinir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 (edited) Someone should take [sM] Dizzy 1.0.1 - AlliedModders out of the plugins tbh. Just to stop it getting abused, if all it does is eventually crash the server (or at least only set the permission flag for trusted). Edited May 5, 2010 by Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingless Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 How about a little multiple choice quiz over what you should and shouldn't do? If you see someone getting 6000 headshots in a row, do you... a) Call them gay Post an abuse thread c) Ban them d) Get a demo, ban them and then post a ban report If Church says the word "black" when describing someone that is actually black without using it as a pejorative, do you... a) Kick him, post a ban report and then get flamed Slay him c) Slap him d) Get back to playing Jailbreak You get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 How about a little multiple choice quiz over what you should and shouldn't do? If you see someone getting 6000 headshots in a row, do you... a) Call them gay Post an abuse thread c) Ban them d) Get a demo, ban them and then post a ban report You get the idea. e) Find out what server he is on O_O In all srsbsns: Sounds good, MASS PM of questions inc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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