WizardKevin101 Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 ok, i'm still somewhat new to the FORUMS if not the jailbreak GAME. i'd like to talk about the ADMINS. i've seen about 2 or 3 admins in a server, ok? then one ct gets really pissed off and kills all the t's in a mass fk at bottom of cell stairs. admins don't do SHIT. today, i got slayed because of being in first cell for 5 seconds then going to armory for a different gun for more ammo. i like to be prepared. so then i start complaining to the admin (general noob) and he starts saying "enough" and admins ALWAYS say that when they're done fighting us about what they should/shouldn't do. then i realized THIS: admins only buy admin for a few personal reasons: one they get respect and feared. two: they can do whatever they want with almost no consequences. sometimes its fun like being noclipped during LR for one round. three: they tell others what they can/can't do. and the reason why they eventually say "enough, last warning, ENOUGH" is because they know that we're right! the people actually PLAYING should get to choose who gets slayed, kicked, switched, or banned. majority rules, not whether the admin see's it or not. example: today, i was in first cell then went to armory for new weapon & more ammo. i get slayed for it, and i ask why. the admin starts saying you shouldn't even BE in first cell/armory after beginning of round. then i say that almost everyone should either be banned or t-listed for going into first cell at least ONCE every round. that's when the admin starts saying "enough." that's when i realize that he doesn't want to argue because he can't come up with any counter arguments. what's worse is: i'm not even 15!!!!!!! he's at LEAST 20 years old, and he didn't want to argue because it was too embarrassing for him to keep this up! this has been going on for TOO long and it's getting really annoying. t-list, ban, WHATEVER! at least i'm getting this off my chest. it's really fucking annoying how the admins dont do shit to fk'ers but kick and ban people for talking too loud or going into vents because a t lied and said there was somebody in there. i've been heard, and want to see the hellsgamers responses. thank you for reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 hes a new admin, give him time to know what rules to enforce, if you can get a demo of any abuse then their admin will be stripped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doobie Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Ok just because nothing happens right away doesn't mean its not taken care of usually. ---> Jailbreak T-List - HeLLsGamers Multi Gaming Community: Also if you get proof of a mass freekiller feel free to make a report in that thread. Follow the template provided in the sticky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingless Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 I didn't get past your first paragraph, but could it be that people are intolerant of your actions because you come off as a condescending prick? Two points will sum up just about anything that anyone can post in response to this. 1. the people actually PLAYING should get to choose who gets slayed, kicked, switched, or banned. majority rules, not whether the admin see's it or not. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. Admins are not obligated to do a single damned thing on the server. If we didn't see it, we can't enforce it. If we decide to use discretion in a situation, that's our call, not yours. Do not go off on admins on the server just because you think they're doing "a bad job"; you will be removed. 2. If an admin is legitimately abusing, and this does happen, gather some proof in the form of a demo or detailed screenshots, post an abuse report and it will be handled. We appreciate people contributing to the ban and abuse forums when they have proper cause to do so, however, we ask that it be done respectfully. I may be wrong here, but I'm still going to say it; we're all adults here and need to act accordingly. I may have come off a little harsh, but how would you like it if someone came into your house and called you and your family inept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast702 Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 I didn't get past your first paragraph, but could it be that people are intolerant of your actions because you come off as a condescending prick? Two points will sum up just about anything that anyone can post in response to this. 1. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. Admins are not obligated to do a single damned thing on the server. If we didn't see it, we can't enforce it. If we decide to use discretion in a situation, that's our call, not yours. Do not go off on admins on the server just because you think they're doing "a bad job"; you will be removed. 2. If an admin is legitimately abusing, and this does happen, gather some proof in the form of a demo or detailed screenshots, post an abuse report and it will be handled. We appreciate people contributing to the ban and abuse forums when they have proper cause to do so, however, we ask that it be done respectfully. I may be wrong here, but I'm still going to say it; we're all adults here and need to act accordingly. I may have come off a little harsh, but how would you like it if someone came into your house and called you and your family inept? ^this and also as admin we pay for our admin it's not a job like if they were going to pay anything for keeping freekillers, hackers, etc. out of the server but most admin will do something about it if they see it. And also if you guys(generalizing) keep QQing through admin chat about freekillers nonstop or about not us doing our "job" someone else might get removed besides the frekillers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky2442 Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 (edited) Admins try and help people to the best of there ability; unfortunately we can't see everything, but when we do it's taken care of. Also if an admin is new you can't expect him to be perfect, you learn from experience. If someone is kind enough to donate for admin then it's obvious that they mean well, just give them time to learn. Edited May 22, 2010 by ricky2442 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkplanner Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 His talking about admins there witnessing freekills and other events against the motd and not taking any action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Red Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 (edited) Mutinous, hi buddy. He threw his guns in first cell, after camping first cell, I told him to leave. and he went to armory. So i slayed, he qqd and rage quitted. I did nothing wrong. P.S. I always slay freekills. I cant watch everything, im trying to play to. I do HATE HATE HATE people that camp armory/first cell. Please read the MOTD! Edited May 22, 2010 by General Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1 Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 (edited) then i realized THIS: admins only buy admin for a few personal reasons: one they get respect and feared. two: they can do whatever they want with almost no consequences. sometimes its fun like being noclipped during LR for one round. three: they tell others what they can/can't do. and the reason why they eventually say "enough, last warning, ENOUGH" is because they know that we're right! the people actually PLAYING should get to choose who gets slayed, kicked, switched, or banned. majority rules, not whether the admin see's it or not. 1. Actually, most buy it to support HeLLsGamers 2. We cannot do whatever we want, that would be abuse. Demo an admin abusing their powers and head over to the Abuse Reports - HeLLsGamers Multi Gaming Community: with it. Only higher, trusted members of HG can use noclip. 3. No, just no. If the people playing chose who got slayed/switched/kicked or banned it would be a mass fucking riot. You'd get people left, right and centre "So and so freekilled me, slay him!" "Yeah, he freekilled me too". Unless you have proof that your killer was in the wrong, we cannot do a damned thing apart from constantly keep an eye on him. For all we know you could just hate whoever killed you and get your friends to say they were freekilled too, and then if we do slay the killer and we were in the wrong, we'd be in a bad situation. And on a final note: WE CAN'T SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE SERVER A second final note: I'll let you in on a little secret, players can actually demo/screenshot a mass FK and post it as a t-list thread. https://hellsgamers.com/forums/jailbreak-t-list/ Edited May 22, 2010 by Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphaed Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 I'd just like to add in this: I like tacos. That is all... P.S. Ah....fuck, okay, that's not all. Honestly there are a few hiccups here and there, but overall the admins try their damnest to try to make the server enjoyable for everyone. This of course means enforcing the rules against those that do not abide by them. The question I've got is I'm wonder if you were warned about being in the first cell and did not heed the warning given? If you weren't warned, I somewhat apologize for that and you should have been. But also, you must realize that there's really no reason that a CT should be in the "1st Cell" at all, really. That thing is for the T's to go into the armory as the door does not automatically open up for them like it does for the CT's. Because it does for the CT's, then they should just go through that alone and stay out of the 1st Cell as that's considered camping an area just to preemptively prevent the T's from rebelling (which is not allowed, same as for the vents or the armory itself). The only possible exception for a CT to go into the armory through the 1st Cell is if the T's are around the fountain area or infirmary and you have no ammo or guns (this is to prevent going through the T's pathway, which is also against the rules). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Red Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 or following a T. U were in first cell, I said "get out of first cell" While u stayed in first cell you dropped both your guns (m4 and deagle i believe) and went into armory from first cell. I then said "imma slay you, nice job" and i slayed you. Your welcome. Welcome to the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCrzy Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Yeah I don't see anything wrong with Red's actions, if you dropped you were camping in first cell, dropped your weapons, and then went to armory I'd say that's pretty much worthy of a slay for camping and gun planting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 thread closed, stop acting like jailbreakers, jeebus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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