mccaincracker Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I didn't understand half of these posts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChristina5000 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Not a nerd, just a survivalist! still makes you a nerd lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinthius Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Cross, We wouldn't need "Sun Imitation" as much as clean energy, Nuclear Fusion. The sun works as a massive nuclear fusion reactor. Besides the point. If we want to travel fast dirty, we can simply use nuclear fission energy to our advantage. Such As, Developing metal that can survive a nuclear explosion without being completely disintegrated, With that Metal, Or an energy shield for that matter. We can simply detonate a nuclear bomb behind our ships, this would give an excellant traveling method. Unless of course the convoy is to long and you have the ships loop and destroy themselves. 3 Billion years to find an earth-like planet. That's pretty terrible. If the Human race wants to survive for a very long time. We have to colonize thousands of worlds, If we have 2, We're dinky as hell. 2 worlds are easily conquered. What about thousands? hell, Even if we were to start controlled crashes of Asteroids, Think of the possibilities. If we put a few thrusters on an Asteroid, and push it into the ocean, Pick it up, and mine it. Do you know the estimated $ of resources some have perceived to get? 3 - 30 Trillion from ONE Asteroid. Just One. We have to stop pillaging our planet. The universe, Fuck, the Solar system, is for the pillaging. an entire belt of Money we can use to get off this rock. And with these resources, we can get more, and do more. And we can increase our power in the universe. I do enjoy your small thing about a galactic alliance. It is most definitively there. Hell, i'm sure there are galactic empires who have just simply carved out land. Veritas et Aeuqtias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PizzaGuy Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 While it would silly to think we're the only creatures in the universe, it wouldn't be far fetched to say we might be the most advanced. While movies and video games depict humans as being the under dogs against a much larger more advanced alien horde I doubt in reality its anything close to that. Think of all the living things on earth, of all of them how many species have done what humans have? Just one, humans. Even on other earth like planets that could support life, another species would have to had the perfect environment to evolve into an intelligent race that could pose a threat to humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr(+)sshair Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 Sun imitation and the sun are both nuclear fusion and fission, therefore repeating the cycle. We want to reproduce nuclear fuel isotypes through fusion, not expend it. We also need free neutrons as a result from fission at all times to use as an invisible force field to protect us from extreme radiation outside of our solar systems field. Any other byproducts would be useful as well. No, you don't want nuclear bombs exploding anywhere near your ship. It would create a gravity well and destroy the ship itself. Compressed CO2 in storage tanks built up by the inhabitants would work just fine as long-lasting engines. CO2 is also good for a huge farm atrium. Why bring asteroids here and risk atmospheric changes all the time? Would fuck up the ecosystem. We would most likely have mining motherships with drones doing the work. By the way, putting thrusters on an asteroid would be the least method on the list. Simply harness sun power into laser energy and like a magnifying an ant, hit the asteroid and burn a hole. All you need is one jet to guide it where you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus2 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Even on other earth like planets that could support life, another species would have to had the perfect environment to evolve into an intelligent race that could pose a threat to humanity. Totally agree but at the same time if you take into account the size of our universe and the amount of galaxies and star systems, the chances of another "perfect environment" isn't out of the equation. Saying there isn't one would almost make the human race an anomaly. Edited October 14, 2010 by Jesus ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Android Penguin Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 While it would silly to think we're the only creatures in the universe, it wouldn't be far fetched to say we might be the most advanced. While movies and video games depict humans as being the under dogs against a much larger more advanced alien horde I doubt in reality its anything close to that. Think of all the living things on earth, of all of them how many species have done what humans have? Just one, humans. Even on other earth like planets that could support life, another species would have to had the perfect environment to evolve into an intelligent race that could pose a threat to humanity. You forget about other alien races perhaps influencing the evolution developing sentient lifeforms. If the universe truly has been around for as long as it has been, then it is very possible that some of the more intelligent races have directed lesser sentient life through its evolution process. Some of the more barbaric would possibly raise them as slaves/food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus2 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 If anyones interested in alien life and hasn't seen the Stephen Hawking documentary I suggest you watch it. It's absolutely eye opening and it comes from one the most intelligent people we know on our planet today. Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRTLkGbJJ-I&feature=related Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiWgxWC1Y3M&playnext=1&videos=1sfe4uiF2qc&feature=mfu_in_order Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbNWKx8vuCs&videos=1sfe4uiF2qc&feature=BF Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdIV4EhyXuQ&videos=1sfe4uiF2qc&feature=BF Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNpSMNDyOgQ&videos=1sfe4uiF2qc&feature=BF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr(+)sshair Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 Yeah, Stephen Hawkings is brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus2 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Yeah, Stephen Hawkings is brilliant. If you watch that, when you have time, he makes theories about alien life on planets like Mars, and a moon Europa. All of his ideas are possible which makes the videos so interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr(+)sshair Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 If you watch that, when you have time, he makes theories about alien life on planets like Mars, and a moon Europa. All of his ideas are possible which makes the videos so interesting. Yes I've seen everything to do with Stephen Hawkings...even locking the kids in their room when he was on Larry King Live LOL That's what's the best thing about living, is perceiving everything else because we can and we have the intelligence to formulate and ponder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus2 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 This thread has caused an urgency to go watch more National Geographic & Discovery ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinthius Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 How can we create a mining mothership without resources? A SMALL Asteroid, I'm not talking about bringing something that would cause a massive impact. Someone smaller for the Now. And on a Gravity Well, We aren't talking about TSAR Bombs here, If the ship is far enough out, gravity would move the ship out of harms way before it implodes. Once again, temporary. It's fast and cheap, Until we can begin to have Ion thrusters, or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr(+)sshair Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 How can we create a mining mothership without resources? A SMALL Asteroid, I'm not talking about bringing something that would cause a massive impact. Someone smaller for the Now. And on a Gravity Well, We aren't talking about TSAR Bombs here, If the ship is far enough out, gravity would move the ship out of harms way before it implodes. Once again, temporary. It's fast and cheap, Until we can begin to have Ion thrusters, or something similar. Making bombs is expending resources though. You would need parts to build the bomb. Asteroids entering the atmosphere would probably burn out 60-80% of the asteroid. I'm sure getting minerals/metals would be thought out before leaving a planet and would have some system built to handle it...drones would only be the true way to mine in the universe. The gravity well would PULL in the ship more than push it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 There is a 50 percent chance that alien life does exist. However, there is a 100 percent chance that if they come to Earth wanting to start shit I will send them to whatever deity they believe in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinthius Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 You're right with the Asteroids. I'm sure you've heard of space elevators? I mean, Ok, Scrap controlled crashing an asteroid, If we could put it into orbit and mine it with your mothership, Wouldn't we save resources? since instead of back and forth the (I hate these) SPACE ELEVATORZ could carry the resources down to us. I'm sure getting minerals/metals would be thought out before leaving a planet and would have some system built to handle it...drones would only be the true way to mine in the universe. If we populate a planet for lack of a better example. Mars, and turn it into a mining planet, That's exploration! Drones can work yes, but these drones would have to be millions in number, Or having very large CC. Once again, you have to have resources to do this. Then again, I agree, For another example. A "Mother Ship" containing mining drones and having population on board. you populate a planet while your mining operations make the planet liveable. put one of these in every solar system, That almost sounds like an empire. I enjoy going back and forth with you Cross, If only we were on better terms in other areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr(+)sshair Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 The whole point is to leave Earth's solar system to find a healthier star. The only asteroids/comets outside of a solar system would be loners and scarce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr(+)sshair Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Also, I think we've already fucked up the Earth. I believe the inner-workings of Earth depend on oil to keep fueling the core like clockwork. I made a picture to explain sorta...basically I believe these oil fields under the crust ultimately hit the core, causing massive eruptions on the surface. Yes, I'm the worst ms-paint artist in the world. Edited October 14, 2010 by Cr(+)sshair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinthius Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 We can't move if we don't have ships large enough. like you've said. Earth is already fucked. i mean hell. If we can Terra-form a planet that's in the (I forgot what it's called) Granny section or whatever. And your drawing is pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus2 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I also recommend watching National Geographic's Journey To The End of The Universe Displays things in our universe that people aren't even aware of that would blow your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChristina5000 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 such a brown-noser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00k1em0nst3r Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 That's just asking for conspiracy after conspiracy. 2012? that's a joke. the world ending? not til a while..at least our generation will survive that time. will we ever get that advanced? sure..but i don't think it will happen soon enough. time will tell..but then again, i won't be alive when that happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinthius Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Well.. The world was suppost to end when the city of Armageddon was taken over by the romans. In 2000 the world was supposed to end. The blackplague was supposed to end the world. FUCK, North/south america were thought to be "GAWDS MAGIC KINGDUMB" and we settles, so the world was supposed to end. Aequitas en virtus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KizZeh Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I'm a spiritual being having a human experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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