Krypto Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I'm in law school, and I've started to notice the similarities that the MOTD has with the U.S. Code (approaching nearly unreadable). Here's a few suggestions to clean it up. I tried to remain true to the wording of a rule, and add what is commonly understood about it. Changes are in red. Let me know what you think. GENERAL RULES FOR ADMINS: Admins MUST warn a wrongdoer in ALL chat before punishing (except for hackers). (Same rule is repeated under Server-Specific Rules.) Do not mass mute, mass kick, or do anything to adversely affect an entire team. SERVER-SPECIFIC RULES FOR PLAYERS: Do not give orders to remained crouched after arriving to a destination. (Crouching hurts pinky fingers) IF CTS LOSE IN KNIFE ARENA THAT LEADS TO LASTCT, LR MUST BE REWARDED TO ANY 2 TS = Change to "IF LAST CT IS CALLED DURING 300, LR STILL APPLIES." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizyvipr Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I don't get it...the motd is fine as it is right now...to top it off: rewording things isn't exactly a good idea with jailbreakers...they find every single little loop hole possible to get around rules and complain about the ones they can't get around. Do not give orders to remained crouched after arriving to a destination. (Crouching hurts pinky fingers) +1 on fixing spelling error....but if you remove "after arriving to a destination" it would end up making people think that they can no longer do any crouching orders at all...which isn't really all that fair. Crouching to designated areas helps the CTs prepare for the games/events they want to hold because it makes the Ts go slowly. It also helps keep Ts from rebelling while on their way to a destination. There has already been a thread about an advantage that Ts partially lost because of a new rule in the MOTD about first cell...and I don't want to have to argue the same case about "this game is supposed to be fun for BOTH Ts and CTs" as I had to in that thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Do not mass mute, mass kick, or do anything to adversely affect an entire team. Ohh a typo, not sure who added that rule, but good eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turi Guiliano Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 So for the last Ct in 300 thing lemme give a scenario. Ts win and theres 14 ts left, theres 2 cts alive, 1 dies from a rebubeller, the last ct kills the rebubeller, (2 scenarios) but then says that he will give lr, he has everyone line up in the middle traps them then gives the ts that he likes most lr by killing the others via last ct OR just kills until last ct. Would that be allowed since its technically giving lr when theyre in the arena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullknife Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I don't get it...the motd is fine as it is right now...to top it off: rewording things isn't exactly a good idea with jailbreakers...they find every single little loop hole possible to get around rules and complain about the ones they can't get around. +1 on fixing spelling error....but if you remove "after arriving to a destination" it would end up making people think that they can no longer do any crouching orders at all...which isn't really all that fair. Crouching to designated areas helps the CTs prepare for the games/events they want to hold because it makes the Ts go slowly. It also helps keep Ts from rebelling while on their way to a destination. There has already been a thread about an advantage that Ts partially lost because of a new rule in the MOTD about first cell...and I don't want to have to argue the same case about "this game is supposed to be fun for BOTH Ts and CTs" as I had to in that thread... ^this Wow can we just make dizy a vet. already Great on forums Great gamer had her own clan she has a good idea what we looking for. I would plus 1 it in a heart beat. O and Motd Suggestions we are good with the motd. As the previous threads that we already have had myself included. Its good and no need to make it longer then it is. Other wise ppl will just go .... Okay admins rules here.... *reading*....*reading* .... Fuck this to long to read all these rules... Then jumps into game to be told by admin to read rules before joining ct. (Oh and they join ct tired of thinking they were fk. and then must be forced back to T and QQ more) MOTD is good. If you really want to make a motd Make it show us the whole thing if its a hugh page long I say its not needed. <-- my 2 cents with Dizy's Awesome quote. (PEPPER TIME :pepper::pepper:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypto Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 I don't get it...the motd is fine as it is right now...to top it off: rewording things isn't exactly a good idea with jailbreakers...they find every single little loop hole possible to get around rules and complain about the ones they can't get around. +1 on fixing spelling error....but if you remove "after arriving to a destination" it would end up making people think that they can no longer do any crouching orders at all...which isn't really all that fair. I agree that the crouching rule could use some work. I don't want to eliminate any crouching, because you're right, it's useful. But your first point was that everyone looks for loopholes. And I changed this rule because it can be taken advantage of. The rule currently says "Do not give orders to remained crouch after arriving to a destination." Which btw JJK, also needs a typo fix. But it can equally be taken advantage of. By this wording, orders to remain crouched are valid so long as they aren't given after arriving to a destination, something that is commonly understood as a violation of the rules whenever it occurs. When Ts are crouching to a destination, the order isn't to remain crouched, but to crouch to a location. They're free to stand upon arrival. Its good and no need to make it longer then it is. These changes make it shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCrzy Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 +1 to fixing grammar and spelling typos, -1 to changing substance of motd (wasn't really purpose of his post, but mostly saying this that current rules should stay the same). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullknife Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I agree that the crouching rule could use some work. I don't want to eliminate any crouching, because you're right, it's useful. The rule currently says "Do not give orders to remained crouch after arriving to a destination." When Ts are crouching to a destination, the order isn't to remain crouched, but to crouch to a location. They're free to stand upon arrival. These changes make it shorter. Eliminating crouch orders would suck but make the game go quicker I am sick and tired of ppl asking to crouch to bottom of cell stairs I mean you can always walk there. crouch to a game is fine but to stairs Bah... And I believe standing once there is fine you got nit pickers and its JB. I bet they will get shot for nit picking oooooo Piece of candy*stands then crouches*. :cheers: yes making motd could be shorter but its fine the way it is yes...K :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizyvipr Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 lol i usually give the "crouch to the bottom of the cell stairs" order...but a lot of the times i try to catch myself and say walk... I know it's a pain...especially when they try to do "crouch walk" takes too much time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaayer Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Walk, crouch, crouch walk can be replaced with one word: Go. However, sometimes we do need to use the "slower" methods of transportation because in the time that the T's are going to their designated area, someone might be yelling, "BAIT BAIT BAIT" or "Dude, get the f- away from them. *ct' gets knifed* See, look what you di...." Admins MUST warn a wrongdoer in ALL chat before punishing (except for hackers). (Same rule is repeated under Server-Specific Rules.) Some people don't read the chat at all, which does lead to freekilling, the famous "umadbri??" and the common QQ. Besides, most admins don't even listen to this rule. They just slay and yell at them because he/she is doing it wrong. After the issue is still clogging up the chat box, the admin usually gets irritated and kicks the person for some bogus reason. Do not give orders to remain crouched. (Crouching hurts pinky fingers) What about LR/FR? I usually get shot for the reason of, "YOU STOOD UP." I'm not sure if it would work, but can it be, "Do not give orders to remain crouched at a destination, unless it is Last/First Reaction." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypto Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 Hmm, I'm not trying to change the substance of any rule. I think the debate on crouching has already been had, or should take place elsewhere. All I'm trying to change is three typos, and two rules that are worded incorrectly. The rule that is repeated twice currently reads: "Admins MUST warn a wrongdoer in ADMIN chat before punishing (except for hackers)." Now that's just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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