Deus Ex: Human Revolution augmentation is a realistic future.

[Weeman]

IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH SKIP THE FIRST FEW MINUTES

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What do you guys think? Is it possibly they'll eventually be able to break the barrier of the brain by 2027? Do you think we will face the morality clash we see in the game?

[-O-P-rime]

My real name is David Sariff.

[Weeman]

I never asked for this

[NOMNOM]

This is the kind of stuff I plan on going to graduate school for.

[Phate]

how many of these rumors pop up, but never happen.

 

According to Back to the future, we have flying cars

 

Edit: Not saying its not possible, but the time may be off

Edited August 30, 2011 by Phate

[Darkwing Duck]

I want to see the world with complete working cybernetic augmented prostheses.

[Awwik]

how many of these rumors pop up, but never happen.

 

According to Back to the future, we have flying cars

 

Edit: Not saying its not possible, but the time may be off

 

You are an idiot. That is a movie and this is scientific research. According to the movies we should have cloned dinosaurs abd use the force and hang with dead people on vacation. Phate you are now on a whole new level of posting for me. A level above italk. I never thought it was possible but it is.

 

 

Ps it will happen eventually we will have Augs

[Bob the Android Penguin]

You are an idiot. That is a movie and this is scientific research. According to the movies we should have cloned dinosaurs abd use the force and hang with dead people on vacation. Phate you are now on a whole new level of posting for me. A level above italk. I never thought it was possible but it is.

 

 

Ps it will happen eventually we will have Augs

 

No need to flame bro, save your flame for the darkspa-Whoops wrong thread. :embarrest:

 

Either way, of course the timing might be off. It is just a game, not a fortune cookie. Right now augmentation is more for those with disabilities (No hands and the like). I'm excited to see how that technology progresses though. :idea:

[Weeman]

how many of these rumors pop up, but never happen.

 

According to Back to the future, we have flying cars

 

Edit: Not saying its not possible, but the time may be off

Did you even watch the video? The guy was even able to flick the guy off with his fake arm. Like i stated in the ORIGINAL POST the only issue these scientists are having are of course trying to figure out the brain and how to get neural receptors to respond to these mechanical limbs, that's quite literally the only barrier present right now. And who knows maybe NOMNOM here might break that barrier when he graduates :-p

[beast702]

We should be able to break the brain's barrier by 2027 or maybe even sooner. But like with always they are people that will go against this.

[bort]

Don't get me wrong, prosthesis has come a long way, but the current way they are controlling artificial limbs is not optimal. Like the video showed, the prosthetic arm doesn't really interact with your brain; it has sensors that sense the muscles on the arm "stump" and react accordingly. I doubt that you could ever be as dexterous doing it that way, as the videos in Deus Ex.

 

What they need to do is implant subcutaneous receptors on the nerve bundle that extends down the arm. If you can have a microchip sensing the firings of the nerves in that nerve bundle, amputees will be able to re-learn how to use their new hands and be quite dexterous with them. So it's not necessary that you interface with the brain itself. You only need to interface with the existing nerves in your limb.

 

Remember, there are two types of nerves in your limbs: motor nerves and sensory nerves. If the prosthetic limb was able to attach to both types of nerves, it could be controlled naturally by motor nerves and even send "feeling" back to your brain by electrically stimulating the sensory nerves.

 

The 2nd main problem with prosthetic is simply having them sturdily attached. Unless they can attach to a bone somehow, their operators will most likely not be able to put as much force on them as a real limb.

[enigma#]

imo I'd prefer to see "nanoaugmentation" (your body being augmented [at an atomic level, not at a macro level] artificially but you keep your natural parts).

 

Prosthesis would work for those who lose their limbs but what was mentioned in the clip makes sense: how ethical is it to artifically chop off all your limbs just for being 'better'.

[Weeman]

For Science!

[NOMNOM]

imo I'd prefer to see "nanoaugmentation" (your body being augmented [at an atomic level, not at a macro level] artificially but you keep your natural parts).

 

Prosthesis would work for those who lose their limbs but what was mentioned in the clip makes sense: how ethical is it to artifically chop off all your limbs just for being 'better'.

But at the end of the day, who would stop you? People are always going to foolishly scowl and turn their backs to anything that's at least some what taboo. In a way, it's not too different from an organ transplant.

[Bob the Android Penguin]

But at the end of the day, who would stop you? People are always going to foolishly scowl and turn their backs to anything that's at least some what taboo. In a way, it's not too different from an organ transplant.

Organ transplants are done out of necessity. Augmentation for the sake of improving oneself by chopping off one's own limbs might suffer the same stigma as plastic surgery. If it was done with nanoaugmentation it would avoid a lot of crap.

[hatemosh-faggle]

now i wanna lose limbs and shit so i can be in a video on youtube.

[Nevodka]

I am intrigued. I would rather do it Bort's way of implanting chips to increase the functionality of current limbs, not chop mine off :l

[Weeman]

I am intrigued. I would rather do it Bort's way of implanting chips to increase the functionality of current limbs, not chop mine off :l

That is a type of augmentation in the game however its only minor enhancements since organic limbs can only do so much. But yea chopping your own limbs off for the sake of improvement does raise moral issues. However I am a man of SCCCIEEEENCCEEEE!

[John]

Not even going to lie to you. I'd drop a limb to get a incredibly strong augmented limb.

[mccaincracker]

even if they can figure anything out it will cost alot of money for the augmentations..

[-O-P-rime]

But I dont want any of that harvester junk. I want Jensen's augs.

[Wingless]

Don't get me wrong, prosthesis has come a long way, but the current way they are controlling artificial limbs is not optimal. Like the video showed, the prosthetic arm doesn't really interact with your brain; it has sensors that sense the muscles on the arm "stump" and react accordingly. I doubt that you could ever be as dexterous doing it that way, as the videos in Deus Ex.

 

What they need to do is implant subcutaneous receptors on the nerve bundle that extends down the arm. If you can have a microchip sensing the firings of the nerves in that nerve bundle, amputees will be able to re-learn how to use their new hands and be quite dexterous with them. So it's not necessary that you interface with the brain itself. You only need to interface with the existing nerves in your limb.

 

Remember, there are two types of nerves in your limbs: motor nerves and sensory nerves. If the prosthetic limb was able to attach to both types of nerves, it could be controlled naturally by motor nerves and even send "feeling" back to your brain by electrically stimulating the sensory nerves.

 

The 2nd main problem with prosthetic is simply having them sturdily attached. Unless they can attach to a bone somehow, their operators will most likely not be able to put as much force on them as a real limb.

 

Very true. Regardless of the fact that the limb is gone, the brain still fires signals off in the same way that it would if the limb was still attached, the big difference obviously being that nothing is there to use those signals. It's along the same lines of why people have phantom limb syndrome. Your brain doesn't like there being a short in that circuit.

 

Personally, I've become rather attached (no pun intended) to my body parts, and I'm much more receptive to the concept of addition rather than replacement. Put a chip in my brain for added functionality? Yes, please! Of course, there's always the chance that the chip will jack everything up, but that's the point behind trials and experimentation.

 

Then again, I feel like a freaking old man with some of my existing body parts. Legs that don't end up with tons of micro-fractures? That'd be kind of cool.

[Weeman]

Then again, I feel like a freaking old man with some of my existing body parts. Legs that don't end up with tons of micro-fractures? That'd be kind of cool.

 

And hands that don't get carpal tunnel.....HOORAY MASTURBATION

[Isaac]

skynet is taking over in the year 2027