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Time travel? Insane CERN project results.


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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/us-science-light-idUSTRE78L4FH20110922

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

 

(Reuters) - An international team of scientists said on Thursday they had recorded sub-atomic particles traveling faster than light -- a finding that could overturn one of Einstein's long-accepted fundamental laws of the universe.
Puzzling results from Cern, home of the LHC, have confounded physicists - because it appears subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light.

 

Thoughts on this matter?

 

I am absolutely amazed.

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its an interesting theory i must say. Technically, you could "speed up" time by travelling towards teh sun as this is how we measure our time. Or we could slow down time. Although, i wouldnt say it "changes everything as we know it" by any means. What we know has been set and tested for many years now. It has been accepted and this doesnt just get erased. However i do think that some of these theorys could (assuming that the test results are true and dont have any errors) make us develop our current theories such as the Theory of Relativity.

 

My excitement will be held until they can replicate it in either the U.S. or Japan. No sense in getting roused up over something that can't even be called a theory.

 

They have actually done similar tests in the US a few years ago, and found similar results. However, the tests where determined to have too many possible reasons for the results.

but in the end, once could be a miscalculation

twice could me a misinterpretation

if they do it again and get the same results, something has got to be correct about it, does it not?

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This is actually fucking scary.

 

If this is true, it will change a lot of things as we know it and also open up for loads of new opportunities.

 

Time travel= impossible due to universe ending paradoxes. Maybe it might form an alternate reality but that is for you to debate. I don't think faster than light makes you go back in time. You just go fast.

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Time travel= impossible due to universe ending paradoxes. Maybe it might form an alternate reality but that is for you to debate. I don't think faster than light makes you go back in time. You just go fast.

 

But still.. A lot of theories are based off that nothing can go faster light.

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Don't jump on the media bandwagon just yet.

 

I could explain to you the physics behind HOW to happened (actually can't, but I know the jist of it), but long story short, the media is blowing this a bit (A LOT) out of proportion. The "barrier" was broken only momentarily and means very little if ANYTHING for ramifications as far as technology is concerned. We will keep living as we have been for the past decades; nothing's new. I'm at UMD and a lot of the professors who I have talked to that work with CERN are taking this "landmark" event with a grain of salt. For a while, we thought we had disproven gravity when we discovered Magnetic Force, but that was easily explained. This is no different. Sub-atomic particles undergo a number of different forces, and any number of these could have caused it.

 

tl;dr: I'm buttfuckingly happy that CERN is finally getting its props for all the work its been doing for the past few years, but this isn't a society-changing event... not yet at least.

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Don't jump on the media bandwagon just yet.

 

I could explain to you the physics behind HOW to happened (actually can't, but I know the jist of it), but long story short, the media is blowing this a bit (A LOT) out of proportion. The "barrier" was broken only momentarily and means very little if ANYTHING for ramifications as far as technology is concerned. We will keep living as we have been for the past decades; nothing's new. I'm at UMD and a lot of the professors who I have talked to that work with CERN are taking this "landmark" event with a grain of salt. For a while, we thought we had disproven gravity when we discovered Magnetic Force, but that was easily explained. This is no different. Sub-atomic particles undergo a number of different forces, and any number of these could have caused it.

 

tl;dr: I'm buttfuckingly happy that CERN is finally getting its props for all the work its been doing for the past few years, but this isn't a society-changing event... not yet at least.

wait... so this ticket to mars i bought is fake?

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Don't jump on the media bandwagon just yet.

 

I could explain to you the physics behind HOW to happened (actually can't, but I know the jist of it), but long story short, the media is blowing this a bit (A LOT) out of proportion. The "barrier" was broken only momentarily and means very little if ANYTHING for ramifications as far as technology is concerned. We will keep living as we have been for the past decades; nothing's new. I'm at UMD and a lot of the professors who I have talked to that work with CERN are taking this "landmark" event with a grain of salt. For a while, we thought we had disproven gravity when we discovered Magnetic Force, but that was easily explained. This is no different. Sub-atomic particles undergo a number of different forces, and any number of these could have caused it.

 

tl;dr: I'm buttfuckingly happy that CERN is finally getting its props for all the work its been doing for the past few years, but this isn't a society-changing event... not yet at least.

 

Reasonable.

Also, you're right. I also think that it is fucking great that CERN is getting some props for this. Becuase back when it was launched a lot of people thought it was nothing.

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  • 5 months later...

Look I know this thread is old but it interested my boner, I mean mind.

 

If this is real, it would be a big risk. I mean religion and science debates? Time paradox? What would happen if we prevented Abe Lincoln's assassination or my country's Spaniard reign, will it be for a better future or worst?

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From CERN herself ( http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR19.11E.html )

 

The second concerns the optical fibre connector that brings the external GPS signal to the OPERA master clock, which may not have been functioning correctly when the measurements were taken. If this is the case, it could have led to an underestimate of the time of flight of the neutrinos.

 

It ain't science yet.

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