Gondor128 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) I was wondering, are orginizations allowed to non stop raid everyone on the server? It seems as though large orgs can take advantage of those who are trying to play the game by stealing thier hard work for themselves without limit. I was asking if there is a limit on raiding or if there are any rules on raiding at all. because it seems pretty foolish as a server to not include limits on when lare orgs can completely ruin everyone on there server that are not aswell equipped as said org. This question sprouts from person expierience as everytime i purchase any property anywhere i am usually raided within 3 -6 minutes. Normally by the boondock saints. Are thier and guidelines for raiding, and if so i would love to hear them! Off Topic : I also way fucked up my age. How do i fix it? In the settings it does not allow me to. Edited June 18, 2012 by Gondor128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I agree that there needs to be limits. We need to encourage new players to stick around, and not whore to a zerg org You can always take up a job tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 FFS JJK stop being so smart and sexy D=< Why is it that every time I read what you say you make me agree Dx But yes I agree, be ready for the rest of gmod leadership to disagree though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xOG_Fishyx Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I was wondering, are orginizations allowed to non stop raid everyone on the server? It seems as though large orgs can take advantage of those who are trying to play the game by stealing thier hard work for themselves without limit. I was asking if there is a limit on raiding or if there are any rules on raiding at all. because it seems pretty foolish as a server to not include limits on when lare orgs can completely ruin everyone on there server that are not aswell equipped as said org. This question sprouts from person expierience as everytime i purchase any property anywhere i am usually raided within 3 -6 minutes. Normally by the boondock saints. Are thier and guidelines for raiding, and if so i would love to hear them! Ya i know it is hard to get started, the boondocks are just over whelming do to their numbers. If you would like you could join my org it just started but i have quite a few people so you wont be alone when growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I agree as well. Maybe have it setup so doors on the hotel cant be lock picked, since the rooms are really small. It would be kinda hard to have 2-3 people growing in such a small place it would deter large groups from setting up base in there. Also maybe have it so you can only own one hotel, and the lock cant be shared, and perhaps If one person from and org owns an apartment nobody else in that org could buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I don't think thats a proper solution. Make a door un-picklockable would just ruin parts of the game and allow larger gangs to grow in there unfaltered. Making the jail a no-go area took a chunk out of the game and I think that would ruin it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa John Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 What we need is to make an occupation in-game, and we need this occupation to enforce the laws of the city so the no good gangs don't rule the place. I know not if such occupation is a possibility, but there may be hope for the future! da police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor128 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 Honestly, the cops are brain dead retards that are looking for a job with a gun (most of the time) . If you play perp alot you KNOW that you can count on the cops. If you are being raided far from the nexus the cops will never arrive in time and if you are being raided by the boondicks or any other large org, the cops are HEAVILY outgunned. IF you REALLY think that we should be counting on the cops you dont play perp much. Aswell, sarcasam doesnt help anything. But it seems as though Mark was correct in that the rest of the leadership doesnt give a shit about this issue or is unable/uncabale to change a damned thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaayer Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 if you are being raided by the boondicks or any other large org, the cops are HEAVILY outgunned. Not sure if typo, or if I should take it seriously... the cops are HEAVILY outgunned. IF you REALLY think that we should be counting on the cops you dont play perp much. Cops are not heavily outgunned. SWAT has full body armor + an MP5 that can 1 shot from across the map. Regular police officers have medium body armor + a pistol that can 1 -2 shot consistently. It just so happens that most cops can't aim. But it seems as though Mark was correct in that the rest of the leadership doesnt give a shit about this issue or is unable/uncabale to change a damned thing. There is a difference between "disagreeing," as Mark stated in his first post, and "not giving a shit," which is what you think happens. We do care about your experience on our servers and we hope that it is a good one. If we didn't care, I'm sure GMOD Leadership wouldn't even post updates as much as they did for the server. This question sprouts from person expierience as everytime i purchase any property anywhere i am usually raided within 3 -6 minutes. Normally by the boondock saints. This is actually a funny topic. You actually happen to be on more of the unlucky side. Most of the time, we're usually just dicking around at base while growing. Fuck, BigJohn, the leader of Boondock Saints if you didn't know, actually doesn't want us to not raid back to back to back. He always says, "leave the new guys alone or I'll have my boot so far up your ass, you'll taste it in your mouth, sugar tits." Personally, whenever I solo-raid the new guys in the server, I leave the correct amount of pots + seeds, if not more than what they had (some other BDS members also do this). Also, if you thought of the idea of trying to raid us, don't. 99% of the time, it ends up with us laughing and you with 8 new holes to breathe through. EDIT: I just saw how long this post was. o.O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa John Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Honestly, the cops are brain dead retards that are looking for a job with a gun (most of the time) . If you play perp alot you KNOW that you can count on the cops. If you are being raided far from the nexus the cops will never arrive in time and if you are being raided by the boondicks or any other large org, the cops are HEAVILY outgunned. IF you REALLY think that we should be counting on the cops you dont play perp much. Aswell, sarcasam doesnt help anything. But it seems as though Mark was correct in that the rest of the leadership doesnt give a shit about this issue or is unable/uncabale to change a damned thing. You are the one who clearly hasn't played enough perp. Of the majority of cops, most do their jobs, if they don't they get blacklisted for not doing it. The reason cops take so long if the situation is far from the nexus is because its exactly that, far away. It takes time to get there but they still end up getting there, at least one patrol. Furthermore, the cops pistol (five-seven) is arguably more powerful then the automatic weapons, ask anyone who has ever robbed the bank and they will attest firmly to that fact. Coupled with SWAT and body armor they are by no mean outgunned and more often then not if you get surrounded by a few officers your pretty much going to die. You get sarcasm and lack of interest from leadership because you are not effectively proving any considerable link between cops not able to stop raiding, when they do, and they are outgunned, when their not. If you see a cop not doing his/her job post a blacklist report with a demo or tell an admin in-game. Saying that we need to limit raids just because you can't secure your house and or join/base with a group of people is taking out the primary reason people play perp, because in essence this is a giant game of cops & robbers. You take out the robbers, you give cops nothing to do, and people just play anti-socially in their house growing weed to get money for inexplicable reasons. Part of the fun is knowing that at any time you can have your door smashed down by the cops or another person and take all your stuff. It's frustrating but that is the appeal, you take that away and it ceases to be perp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJ Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 back in my IRO(RaganrokOnline) days i was in a guild called NO (Noobless Oblique) were were the most powerful giuld on the server. when it was guild seiges the castles we want we got, and we got to make any god item we wanted to, I took the entire server to get together to stop us and mess with our castle so we cant make god items and bring us Down, Now i am a Saint as well if there is a problem with the Number and gettin raided why dont u guys do something the same on joining up with each other and trying to take us out, Just a idea Round 1 WE WON [video=youtube;N2q80EMuulE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2q80EMuulE Round 2 [video=youtube;-NfqzvTuqiU] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor128 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 So you think there needs to be absolutely no limits on raiding... Why not make it so that you are not allowed to raid someone with less than 12-24 hours of played time. OR Make a cash limit like if said person has less than $25K-35K you are not able to raid them. Or you could have an area on the map... say Tides Hotel that has takes these two limits i said before and takes them into affect. If you fit either of the two circumstances then you area ble to purchase a tides hotel room where the doors cannot be picked. Allowing you a safe place to start up or a safe place to get back up on your feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZD-ShadowNinja Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 So you think there needs to be absolutely no limits on raiding... Why not make it so that you are not allowed to raid someone with less than 12-24 hours of played time. OR Make a cash limit like if said person has less than $25K-35K you are not able to raid them. Or you could have an area on the map... say Tides Hotel that has takes these two limits i said before and takes them into affect. If you fit either of the two circumstances then you area ble to purchase a tides hotel room where the doors cannot be picked. Allowing you a safe place to start up or a safe place to get back up on your feet. There should not be limits on raiding.... and tides doors unlockpickable *Challenge Accepted* Is a horrible idea because everyone would want to use it. (Not raid people less than 12-24 or cash limit) Cash limit is a bad idea because when you buy a expensive car you become broke. Time limit is also bad because 12 hours of not getting raided is $144,000 of drug money that's only for regular's, gold get $288,000 that's way to much money to get from 0% chance of raid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Red Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 As a boondock, we try not to raid new people. I usually stick to orgs or people who piss me off. The other day some dood cdmd me for my ak. Raided his ass a few times over a couple hours. 1) Dont fuck with us. 2) Tell us your new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns E. Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 If you think its unfair that the Bigger scale orgs raid you then just ask around see if you can join a bigger, and more powerful org to help you out. You can join mine if you want. https://hellsgamers.com/threads/70223-Dark-BrotherHood?p=395574#post395574 It pays off in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppymew Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 PERP is supposed to be as realistic as it can. If a bank keeps getting robbed the bank can't cry to someone saying "Decrease how many times someone robs the bank!" City's are filled with crime and corruption, EvoCity is filled with crime and corruption, and besides. You must be on a server with terrible aimers because as a cop I took out like 3 guys with auto's by my self with the Five-seven. I hid behind a wall and came up and took them all out. I tried robbing the bank with a UZI, there was 1 cop on the server, he happened to know how to shoot. A guy who knows how to shoot well with a glock could take out the entire police force if wanted, a cop who knows how to shoot well can take out a entire gang if he wanted, it depends on how good you are with any weapon, no matter how weak or slow, if your good, you can make it your enemies worst nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppymew Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 And General Red, I'm personally terrified of the Boondocks, when I see one walking down the street I walk the other way, if my org ever suggests raiding Boondocks, I would say "NO!" and leave the org so I wouldn't have to taste the wrath. Another thing I noticed about the Boondocks is that they all drive pretty much the same cars and colors. So my Org and I stays away from the Boondocks and pray they don't raid us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilpest Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I never raid new guys, unless they didn't tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 heres my solution....set a keyboard macro to "interval 5min then "/yell Have Mercy on me guys im new"" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 A gang full of dicks will die quick. If boondocks was full of assholes then they wouldn't be as big as they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor128 Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 A gang full of dicks will die quick. If boondocks was full of assholes then they wouldn't be as big as they were. A gang full of assholes will attract other assholes to go and be assholes together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaayer Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 A gang full of assholes will attract other assholes to go and be assholes together. I feel like this thread is directly pointing towards the BDS and our awesomeness. Like almost everyone else said, join a gang that has the capacity to fend off raiders. Or, like General Red said, tell one of the tippity top OG Saints and they will likely help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If you think that assholes attract assholes then make a gang of nice people and build it up so you can defend against assholes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 How about a police substation outside of town by the dealership or bp gas station perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 How about a police substation outside of town by the dealership or bp gas station perhaps why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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