Reaper Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) I know I contacted a few people about building a computer. I appreciated the people who helped me out but I am looking for some opinions for better parts before I purchase them. This is my current build idea: Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156078 mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837 GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130839 PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543 HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148725 OD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135224 Edit: I have an updated build list below (post # 11) Possible Ideas: SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167120 Mouse and Keyboard (need suggestions). Possibly a monitor (if the build price stays reasonable). Better GPU (drop SSD and Current GPU), put money towards newer one GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130833 I probably will not be overclocking anything so I will stick with stock CPU cooler for now. The case is a maybe, I definitely like the fold out mobo side but that could also be a pain in the ass (disconnecting things before opening it and such). The GPU, I noticed that it was a little feller (not an issue) and was wondering if that would be able to support a dual monitor set-up. Also, look at extras for possible ideas. I would like to be able to upgrade the computer later on in life, like adding a second GPU to run in SLI or add a SSD for faster boot time. All opinions are welcome. Also if someone could tell me the difference between Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge architecture that would be appreciated. I believe there is a thread on the forums but I still don't understand the difference. Also, in your honest opinion, should i update the cpu to an ivy bridge? Um, i think that is all. Thanks for the help. Edited November 9, 2012 by Reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyHorse Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Really solid build, only thing i dont like is the case. When i first saw the case i fell in love, upon doing some research i found that the case is absolutely terrible for airflow. Grab an antec (900) or CM case, even thermaltake has some decent mid towers now. As far as the GPU goes, its great for a budget build but it would be a good idea just to grab the 660. Other than that, good job! The difference between sandy bridge and ivy bridge isn't much, and for the price difference the 2500k will do fine in any situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tin Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Really solid build, only thing i dont like is the case. When i first saw the case i fell in love, upon doing some research i found that the case is absolutely terrible for airflow. Grab an antec (900) or CM case, even thermaltake has some decent mid towers now. As far as the GPU goes, its great for a budget build but it would be a good idea just to grab the 660. Other than that, good job! Antec 900 yesyesyesyesyes I have that case I fucking love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Really solid build, only thing i dont like is the case. When i first saw the case i fell in love, upon doing some research i found that the case is absolutely terrible for airflow. Grab an antec (900) or CM case, even thermaltake has some decent mid towers now. Ok, so I have a few cases in mind now (4 to be exact). First up is the Cooler Master HAF 922. (seen here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197) I see there is room for additional fans on the side. I just would have to figure out what size, possible added benefit to keep PSU/GPU area cool? Second is the Antec 900 Two V3. (seen here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129097) Also includes support for 2 additional fans. Third is the Thermaltake Armor A90. (seen here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133176) Support for additional fan on side. Don't like the flip-open door, needs to be open if ANYTHING is plugged in. Fourth is the Antec DF-35. (seen here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129088&Tpk=N82E16811129088) Looks like additional support for side fan. As far as the GPU goes, its great for a budget build but it would be a good idea just to grab the 660. Other than that, good job! Ok, consider it done. Thanks for the help with the cpu. I will just stay with the 2500K then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajolt Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 HAF 912 is what I have. Don't regret it. Will update later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) I have a 'Cooler Master HAF 922" and my shit never gets hot; with a overclocked intel i7 2600k ---- Edited November 8, 2012 by Isaac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 I have a 'Cooler Master HAF 922" and my shit never gets hot; with a overclocked intel i7 2600k---- I was like dam that looks like a sexy case. Then i noticed the extra bump on the top and was like, huh? I didn't see that in the pictures on newegg. But I understand now, that BUMP would be your phone... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I was like dam that looks like a sexy case. Then i noticed the extra bump on the top and was like, huh? I didn't see that in the pictures on newegg. But I understand now, that BUMP would be your phone... lol. haha yea, i put it on there time to time. When its charging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajolt Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Okay, so, going through this part by part. Case: It's already been said, but go with a cooler master. For a budget on cases look here but if you can drop a bit of money something to think about is This Motherboard looks good. GPU Here's the thing, you have a really nice GPU, but, I'm afraid you might bottleneck. What happens basically is that the GPU can't perform at the level of the CPU and so then the CPU performance drops. $220 processor = a gpu worth about $220 CPU looks good. Good ram but this is considered one of the best on the market. It's 3 bucks more. Good PSU HDD will be slow due to less RPM. HITACHI It's what I have. Almost silent and really fast. Good stuff tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyHorse Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Okay, so, going through this part by part. Case: It's already been said, but go with a cooler master. For a budget on cases look here but if you can drop a bit of money something to think about is This Motherboard looks good. GPU Here's the thing, you have a really nice GPU, but, I'm afraid you might bottleneck. What happens basically is that the GPU can't perform at the level of the CPU and so then the CPU performance drops. $220 processor = a gpu worth about $220 CPU looks good. Good ram but this is considered one of the best on the market. It's 3 bucks more. Good PSU HDD will be slow due to less RPM. HITACHI It's what I have. Almost silent and really fast. Good stuff tho You link glasses for the gpu, and it wont bottleneck. I still think a 660ti would be a good choice, it will out perform a 570 easily, and almost even with a 580. I agree with the ram, but the HDD not so much. I have a hitachi, kinda blows. They're rep isn't amazing either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) EDIT: Updated Build List on 11/11/12 @ 10:55pm Current Build Idea List: CASE: This Case MOBO: This Mobo GPU: This GPU PSU: This PSU CPU: This CPU*** RAM: This RAM*** HDD: This HDD*** OD: This Optical Drive OS: This OS*** FANS: Side 120mm: This fan X2*** Bottom 120mm: This fan X1*** CPU Cooler (Optional atm): This *** Possible Ideas floating around in my head: Gaming mouse & Keyboard New monitor *** Means that I updated it or added it. All items are up to date. Edited November 12, 2012 by Reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^TheRumor^ Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 The only issue I have with the current build is your choice in HDD, other than that your build looks solid. Go with the 1TB WD Caviar Black, it's on SS for $79.99. Western Digital leads the industry in storage media. Regarding your ideas for mouse/keyboard and monitor: I would recommend the Razer Deathadder and Razer BlackWidow or Deathstalker. As for a monitor, anything from Asus, LG or Samsung would satisfy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyHorse Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 What rumour said, everything else looks great though. The performance of the Caviar blacks are amazing. When i do a new rig, ill be gettin those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma# Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 caching RAM over a HDD would probably yield better performance for the typical stuff. I've seen that enough to know (can anyone say 24 Gbps performance for sequential reads and writes)? SATA III specification limits most hard-drives and SSDs to 6 Gbps. PCI-E x1 (per lane) at 8 Gbps. Personally, I'd say if you can't afford the SSD, add some more RAM in your system and cache a good chunk of it. You'll be happier than spending more money paying a premium for a hard-drive. I have a 3 TB hard-drive with transfer rates that exceed SSD's performance (think 1.2 Gbps or more) because most of the operations are cached in memory than written back when the system is not as busy. Bandwidth however isn't everything, if you want reliability you also have the complexity of hard-drives themselves. I've heard great things about WD/Seagate for the most part. Hitachi and Samsung I've had mixed personal experiences however good experiences outside of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 The only issue I have with the current build is your choice in HDD, Go with the 1TB WD Caviar Black, it's on SS for $79.99.Western Digital leads the industry in storage media. Ok, I could have swore that I had a 64MB cache version of that HDD when i posted the link. oh well, it was pretty late. I have updated my wishlist on Newegg to incorporate it. AHHH, looking at my wish list, I have this Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache for my HDD. I will probably get the WD Black HDD. The keyboard, mouse, and monitor will have to wait for the time being. My standard logitech keyboard and mouse are fairly new and I can get a few good months out of them. As for you enigma, you will have to help me with this caching thing... lol. I might know some of my technical specs for computers but when it comes to manipulating it and overclocking, I am a noob. caching RAM over a HDD would probably yield better performance for the typical stuff.I've seen that enough to know (can anyone say 24 Gbps performance for sequential reads and writes)? SATA III specification limits most hard-drives and SSDs to 6 Gbps. PCI-E x1 (per lane) at 8 Gbps. Personally, I'd say if you can't afford the SSD, add some more RAM in your system and cache a good chunk of it. You'll be happier than spending more money paying a premium for a hard-drive. [/Quote] Would this Corsair Vengence 32GB (4x8GB) be sufficient? Now, would there be a significant decrease in performance if the memory kit was tri-channel instead of the cpu supported dual channel? Thanks again for the help guys. I appreciate everyone that helped me before and after I posted this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma# Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 z77 is dual channel set up xD so it'll be fine 32 GB IS ALOT. You could probably get away with 16 GB (cache 8) and you'd be fine still In regards to the caching aspect, use something like FancyCache. Works well, (it's a trial/beta software, so you gotta reinstall every 180 days xD) I'm fine with it for the most part, it does wonders for copying files back and forth. The only issue I'd see is if your software interacted at the low level (near the HAL/kernel), it may bypass FancyCache's driver and actually use the typical access mechanism. I can make a graphical tutorial if you want. Should help!? you might get memory starved for extremely demanding games (but that would be a rarity or almost a never-occured circumstance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajolt Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 The only issue I have with the current build is your choice in HDD, other than that your build looks solid. Go with the 1TB WD Caviar Black, it's on SS for $79.99. Western Digital leads the industry in storage media. Regarding your ideas for mouse/keyboard and monitor: I would recommend the Razer Deathadder and Razer BlackWidow or Deathstalker. As for a monitor, anything from Asus, LG or Samsung would satisfy. ? I run Hitachi and it's silent and really fast. The same one, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 ? I run Hitachi and it's silent and really fast. The same one, I think. The one i had posted in the build had a 32MB cache... I was supposed to post one with a 64MB cache... which is the WD blue hdd in post #15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaayer Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I personally would go with the 3570K instead of the 2500k, particularly for PCIe 3.0 and other stuffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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