XvSolstice Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 So i was reading through the HG forums and noticed a ban report against a former admin from good ol' Mafia claiming that the admin abuse that occurred was a factor that ruined the game. I found this ironic if not laughable and am proposing an idea that i'd like to discuss with the leaders or the UM about if they notice this. Frankly this game is dominated by one org and we all know which org that is, and evidently this has allowed that one group to monopolize the game considering the considerable amount of admins that partake in this org. This isn't coming out of my own aggression but there are multitudes of individuals that hate the fact that that many admins are in one org because in a way it is in fact favoritism against all other players coming from a collective perspective. If the DL or the UA sees this please message me and i'll gladly come on to teamspeak and give you my pitch for this idea and thanks for reading my expression of the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mafia Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I'm assuming you're talking about me, and I'm not an admin. Not sure why everyone believes people from Blessings are automatically admins. There is no favoritism and I can assure you that. I have seen other org members be slayed by admins in our org for punchwhoring etc. I don't understand how it is ironic that I posted a report on an admin for abuse, when I don't have admin myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XvSolstice Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 I never stated that I thought you were an admin please reread if you cannot comprehend, and im commenting on how this game is monopolized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhataWackaMonk Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) So i was reading through the HG forums and noticed a ban report against a former admin from good ol' Mafia claiming that the admin abuse that occurred was a factor that ruined the game. I found this ironic if not laughable and am proposing an idea that i'd like to discuss with the leaders or the UM about if they notice this. Frankly this game is dominated by one org and we all know which org that is, and evidently this has allowed that one group to monopolize the game considering the considerable amount of admins that partake in this org. This isn't coming out of my own aggression but there are multitudes of individuals that hate the fact that that many admins are in one org because in a way it is in fact favoritism against all other players coming from a collective perspective. If the DL or the UA sees this please message me and i'll gladly come on to teamspeak and give you my pitch for this idea and thanks for reading my expression of the topic. Okay...first off, your talking about Blessings. Personally as a mod, if I see anyone from Blessing doing anything borderline, I will be harsher on them, cause they know the rules and 95% are members of HG. The other thing is, you don't always see us talking to them, cause we are in Teamspeak. Father is extremely strict on the rules, and we all know that if a ban report is made and the ban is enabled, chances are we are out of the org. If you see anyone of us mods not doing something when we are watching a Blessing break the rules, make a report..... Favoritism is not allowed. Mods are not just chosen at random either. All of us were interviewed and selected by the Gmod leadership. If you feel like a Blessing is rule breaking, do a /report and/or record it. Edited May 7, 2013 by WhataWackaMonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mafia Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I never stated that I thought you were an admin please reread if you cannot comprehend, and im commenting on how this game is monopolized. I took it as implied, why even make this sentence? noticed a ban report against a former admin from good ol' Mafia claiming that the admin abuse that occurred was a factor that ruined the game. I found this ironic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silly Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 so much rage in this thread /thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XvSolstice Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 @Monk This isn't about what the org was before, its about what it is now. And i've heard several testimonies stating that they were capable of getting away with things due to being in relations to an admin, however in respect to their privacy and to the possibility of members confronting them of the exposure. Either way this was requested for a DL and UM and not your studious remarks on my statement. But i will respond to your statement saying that u guys getting wrecked at tides could possibly be true but does appear to be slightly fabricated as you have taken down orgs of large size and reputation. (ie: Money Makers (now extinct) and NE) unless however you were going against Tyrone and his org then that is much more beleivable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XvSolstice Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Not rage just an expression of opinion, if i were to be angry id say things along the lines of "Fuck the Blessings," but no im being respectful to their characters and reputation.Throughout our societies there have been several monopolies that have existed, companies like the MPPC but they never lasted due to the fact that they are considered unfair to the Departments of Justice. Regardless this post was not for unsophisticated remarks and direct aggression rather just an expression of both a personal and a collective opinion of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhataWackaMonk Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) @Monk This isn't about what the org was before, its about what it is now. And i've heard several testimonies stating that they were capable of getting away with things due to being in relations to an admin, however in respect to their privacy and to the possibility of members confronting them of the exposure. I understand what your getting at. However, if you look at how far the org has come since it was founded, it truly deserves the good reputation it has. It seems to me you need to be making ban reports and/or abuse reports instead of making opinion threads without valid proof. That's what it comes down to. Edited May 7, 2013 by WhataWackaMonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XvSolstice Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Sadly i have and not surprisingly it got shut down even though i had more then suffiicient evidence that he confessed to breaking rules, I like the org I can see being a part of it has its ups and down but getting back to that whole idea of monopolization its just an unequality to the other game players which is what part of my idea to pitch to the DL+ is partially about. Much respect for your org and I know how you feel from a org starting from the bottom and working its way up all the way to one of the biggest orgs on the server which is actually kinda cool. Anyways this wasn't meant to argue as it is an expression. For the record here is that ban report i put up against one of your org members: https://hellsgamers.com/hgbans.php?i=36131-panda-blessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Mafia Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Sadly i have and not surprisingly it got shut down even though i had more then suffiicient evidence that he confessed to breaking rules, I like the org I can see being a part of it has its ups and down but getting back to that whole idea of monopolization its just an unequality to the other game players which is what part of my idea to pitch to the DL+ is partially about. Much respect for your org and I know how you feel from a org starting from the bottom and working its way up all the way to one of the biggest orgs on the server which is actually kinda cool. Anyways this wasn't meant to argue as it is an expression. For the record here is that ban report i put up against one of your org members: http://hellsgamers.c...-panda-blessing Keep in mind that was reviewed by a DA that doesn't consult with the Blessings and is not biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaincracker Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I'd suggest you contact the person you'd like to speak to directly to prevent arguments/disagreements on the forums. Mark is on ts3 often, or you could forum PM him or a uM who may be able to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) So i was reading through the HG forums and noticed a ban report against a former admin from good ol' Mafia claiming that the admin abuse that occurred was a factor that ruined the game. I found this ironic if not laughable and am proposing an idea that i'd like to discuss with the leaders or the UM about if they notice this. Frankly this game is dominated by one org and we all know which org that is, and evidently this has allowed that one group to monopolize the game considering the considerable amount of admins that partake in this org. This isn't coming out of my own aggression but there are multitudes of individuals that hate the fact that that many admins are in one org because in a way it is in fact favoritism against all other players coming from a collective perspective. If the DL or the UA sees this please message me and i'll gladly come on to teamspeak and give you my pitch for this idea and thanks for reading my exp<b></b>ression of the topic. Ok first off, these moderators/admins joined on their own decision, we did not force them to join. Hell, even I asked to join back. As Monk stated above me, we started out just like every other little org. They worked their way up to where they are now from their work towards it. You say only one org is 'dominating' when quite frankly, I don't even consider the Blessings to be the greatest org ever. We, just like other organizations, fail on raids from time to time. But we rebound from our mistakes and look to better the next time when that situation comes back. An org will never be 'dominating' without hard work and communication with their organization. As you stated above, if you are having problems with a specific member of our org, then make a report! Nothing will get done by saying it in a thread. Either do /report or make a report on the HGbans or contact a dA+ if you are having an issue. First thing I do whenever I join is record a demo. And with what Mafia did, I don't see what he did wrong when he reported someone breaking rules. Much respect to Rizon and all, he's a great person, but he abused a power and Mafia reported it. Last I checked, no one should get special treatment over others. These are just my 2 cents. No rage intended. Edited May 4, 2013 by Magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inc Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Making passive aggressive forum posts wont change anything. do what mccain said and contact a dL or uM that said im in blessing mostly because i chill with father and i'll slay the fuck out of a blessing if i see them doing something that warrants a slay. trust me they know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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