kirsten Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Hey i've been playing Team Fortress two for quite some time and decided to become a gold member. I'm new to the whole admin thing so wanted to ask a question. If a player is verbally abusing another player through the chat, you give him a warning right? and so on. If it continues then you would kick him? My question is though, if you were to kick the player after already warning them about their attitude, and they report you saying "awh it was unfair... awh I didnt even see the warnings" etc etc etc, how can you then provide evidence to say "yes you said this, here is where I warned you, you continued" etc Appreciate some info on this please as I don't really know how it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Hey i've been playing Team Fortress two for quite some time and decided to become a gold member. I'm new to the whole admin thing so wanted to ask a question. If a player is verbally abusing another player through the chat, you give him a warning right? and so on. If it continues then you would kick him? My question is though, if you were to kick the player after already warning them about their attitude, and they report you saying "awh it was unfair... awh I didnt even see the warnings" etc etc etc, how can you then provide evidence to say "yes you said this, here is where I warned you, you continued" etc Appreciate some info on this please as I don't really know how it goes Basically exactly what you've said.... make sure you have a demo and screencaps of console (showing you warned). If they don't heed your warnings, then kick and then if absolutely necessary ban them and post your proof in the ban report. No one should be ostracized from playing here. These are Christian servers, after-all. Edited June 11, 2013 by sirius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsten Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Basically exactly what you've said.... make sure you have a demo and screencaps of console (showing you warned). If they don't heed your warnings, then kick and then if absolutely necessary, ban them and post your proof in the ban report. No one should be ostracized from playing here. These are Christian servers, after-all. Thanks so i'll gather evidence so that if the player does report it I have evidence but do I need to report the "kick" myself whenever I feel the need to kick a player? Because with bans, you have to report and provide evidence Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Thanks so i'll gather evidence so that if the player does report it I have evidence but do I need to report the "kick" myself whenever I feel the need to kick a player? Because with bans, you have to report and provide evidence Thanks No need to report your kicking of a player from the server. I always keeps screens and demos of everything I do, just in case they want to be a toughie and make an abuse report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsten Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 No need to report your kicking of a player from the server. I always keeps screens and demos of everything I do, just in case they want to be a toughie and make an abuse report. Great thanks for your help, appreciate it Just one more thing. Say for example a player was abusing another, (say the players name is Carl) the command to kick would be !kick Carl verbal abuse of another player. Is that exactly how I should type it in the chat bar? This is the way it was written in one of the tutorial posts Sorry i'm still learning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonick Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) !kick Carl "Verbal Abuse" Reason needs to be in "quotations" otherwise it will only say the first word in the kick message. I would also mute/gag/silence before you kick. That's just me personally. Procedure is Warn Kick Ban... but usually if you throw a mute in there you can stop it that way or they will leave on their own. There are four very good threads below you can check out. TF2 Admin Guide http://hellsgamers.c...or-tf2-servers/ HG Admin Guide for CSS but very good stuff http://hellsgamers.c...or-css-servers/ Submitting TF2 Reports and Server Rules http://hellsgamers.c...lid-tf2-report/ Kicking/Banning Users https://hellsgamers.com/topic/47896-kickingbanning-users/ Edited June 11, 2013 by Sonick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsten Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 !kick Carl "Verbal Abuse" Reason needs to be in "quotations" otherwise it will only say the first word in the kick message. I would also mute/gag/silence before you kick. That's just me personally. Procedure is Warn Kick Ban... but usually if you throw a mute in there you can stop it that way or they will leave on their own. There are four very good threads below you can check out. TF2 Admin Guide http://hellsgamers.c...or-tf2-servers/ HG Admin Guide for CSS but very good stuff http://hellsgamers.c...or-css-servers/ Submitting TF2 Reports and Server Rules http://hellsgamers.c...lid-tf2-report/ Kicking/Banning Users http://hellsgamers.c...gbanning-users/ Perfect, thanks very much Will start reading them all now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I would also mute/gag/silence before you kick. That's just me personally. Procedure is Warn Kick Ban... but usually if you throw a mute in there you can stop it that way or they will leave on their own. This is a great point and one I neglected to cover. He's right... go the route of muting/gagging them before kicking them. I do this and 9 times out of 10, this will get their attention enough that they'll stop. If not, kick and then ban are your next two steps. I don't use TS3 but I understand that there's a Helpdesk and leadership there to assist. If you have a question in game, hop on there and ask one of them... I know they're pretty good about jumping in to a game with you to see what's going on and offering you help with a situation or they can handle it themselves. BTW.... thanks for asking the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsten Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 This is a great point and one I neglected to cover. He's right... go the route of muting/gagging them before kicking them. I do this and 9 times out of 10, this will get their attention enough that they'll stop. If not, kick and then ban are your next two steps. I don't use TS3 but I understand that there's a Helpdesk and leadership there to assist. If you have a question in game, hop on there and ask one of them... I know they're pretty good about jumping in to a game with you to see what's going on and offering you help with a situation or they can handle it themselves. BTW.... thanks for asking the question. Ah okay i'll use those command first then How do I access this helpdesk btw? Appreciate your answers, helped a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Join our teamspeak server https://hellsgamers.com/teamspeak.html it's the second or third channel, just join there or poke an advisor in that channel for help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantBeFaded Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 These are Christian servers, after-all. Ummmmmmmmmmm this is HELLSGAMERS isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Ummmmmmmmmmm this is HELLSGAMERS isn't it? RedDevil said I needed to close my eyes, get down on my knees in front of him.... so I was assuming that meant this was a Christian server. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sonick Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Actually it's funny you say that because there was a guy in a server two days ago that said "What happened to this being a Christian server" after someone was cussing on voice chat. He seemed very sincere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnie angst Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 When kicking someone, you don't need to use quotations. It's only when banning someone and you have more then a one word description that you need to use quotations. https://hellsgamers.com/topic/47896-kickingbanning-users/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajolt Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 We prefer typed warnings because you can screencap them and they are solid, there, and they cant say they didn't understand. If you're on a mic, just type the warnings. Use admin all chat or private chat all chat @ Message Private chat @@name message https://hellsgamers.com/topic/83356-admin-training-guide-for-tf2-servers/ I always try to screenshot or demo the initial event, screenshot the warning, keep demoing the second event, screencap the kick, and then demo the third event and post the proof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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