cs:s More Admins Pls

[SmellyButtCheeks]

So even though there is plenty of admins in jail break, a lot of the time people breaking rules will get away with it, because current admins don't really understand how to admin, don't really care or feel like they have to do anything or w/e the case is. This is why i believe that there should be more admins who don't pay (like 10 man servers), therefore they have an "obligation" to do the right thing and punish people breaking rules, because lets face it, there cant always be dA+ on to enforce the rules, especially late night / early morning. Even though this may seem ridiculous to management (maybe), I think it is necessary to keep the servers clean, and make sure that players have the best possible time on HG JB without having to deal with spammers/racist/free killers etc. Please give it some thought because before just saying no.

 

Thaaaanks

[Poundcakes]

The reason why this has been a hard "NO" is due to the fact that if you cant rely on the admins on the server and or don't trust them to do the right thing to their friend W/E, you can always demo and or ss yourself and post a ban/tlist/blacklist report. Putting the power right into the peoples hands, therefore its never going to change.

[SmellyButtCheeks]

The reason why this has been a hard "NO" is due to the fact that if you cant rely on the admins on the server and or don't trust them to do the right thing to their friend W/E, you can always demo and or ss yourself and post a ban/tlist/blacklist report. Putting the power right into the peoples hands, therefore its never going to change.

I guess that's true, but no one wants to play, and have to deal with uploading proof to get people banned and stuff, and you cant always rely on that because even if you do make a ban request it isn't going to stop people from doing whatever they are doing then and there, it still takes a while.

[StyleeZy]

I think if you want change you have the ability to make it happen (as poundcakes suggested) and CSS staff are generally quite generous when it comes to giving out relevant/sufficient punishment to those who DO break the rules. Paid admins are NOT obligated (AFAIK) to do any admining just to clear that up for you. Every player has access to be an admin through our HGBans system, yes it does take hours at night for those reports to get done, but it is a system that works. Also there are like 4,000,000 gold admins in CSS JB.

[SmellyButtCheeks]

Also there are like 4,000,000 gold admins in CSS JB.

Well this also supports my argument, as today I saw the dumbest thing I have seen in Jailbreak in a long time, which is the main reason for this post. Today, on a full server, there must of been at least 8-10 admins on, and there were so many people spamming, free killing, being racist, trolling and all the rest, it got to a point where someone had to call in Reddevil to do something because none of the admins would do anything, even after i had notified them through admin chat, no one did anything. I thought it was just so ridiculous that people who buy admin don't do anything to stop people breaking the rules, its like they just want the admin tag and to be able to protect themselves (i know they don't have to do anything). I'm sure there must be people who agree with me.

[StyleeZy]

I do not agree with you and i'm sure theres plenty of people for both sides. When I first bought my gold admin back when I first found HG I bought it solely to protect myself and punish those who did break rules to me, which is COMPLETELY ACCEPTABLE. You should have took proof, steamids, and submitted ban reports and you would not see this trend repeating of players breaking the rules with such happy careless attitudes. Im going to restate my first point that EVERY single player has an opportunity to admin via HGBans, including you! You cannot pin these events on paid admins who have a 0 obligation policy to protect you nor the server, and you also cannot pin it on absent dAs. If you see something you dont approve of / want someone banned for, its YOU who has the power to do so through HGBans.

[SmellyButtCheeks]

Ok I understand and i do agree with you to a certain point, but this isn't a quick fix. This is what I am trying to get at, when people are breaking rules, i believe that action should be taken ASAP, rather than waiting for something to happen and everyone in the server gets pissed off. You can disagree and point out anything wrong, but this is what I think should be happening in Jail Break.

[StyleeZy]

Even looking at it from your perspective, lets say we hire 10 of you guys as 'trusted' admins of our server(s). Any moment in which one of you 10 are not absent leads us back this same spot in which when no dA is present nobody HAS to do anything. Yes it would increase the chances of having an obligated (this part is still questionable) admin present in the server by about 200% (not accounting that the trusted admins would be a lot more likely to play JB than our dA's). Lets account furthermore that out of these 10 players, they most likely are not capable of accomodating everyones needs while playing, someone will always have a 'hey I got fk'd and <insert admin> didnt slay him for it!', always. Lets even account FURTHERMORE that the chosen admins would most likely enjoy PLAYING JB, and wouldnt physically be able to see everything that happens. You have to understand that us giving admin to a small pool of players is not a fix to this issue, and we have to put a certain amount of trust in the players to a) behave to our rules, and b ) report those who do not. There is no 'quick fix' you seek.

 

also keep in mind im not trying to argue nor disprove you at all and i dont mean to come off that way, i'm just debating and trying to make you see the bigger picture.

[SmellyButtCheeks]

Give admin to people who consistently play jailbreak, (I'm sure there would be a way to figure this out) and let them have some responsibility, and if they aren't playing enough then revoke it or something. Jeez i didn't think it would turn into this.

[Sirius]

Give admin to people who consistently play jailbreak, (I'm sure there would be a way to figure this out) and let them have some responsibility, and if they aren't playing enough then revoke it or something. Jeez i didn't think it would turn into this.

 

Admin access is always a touchy subject for some reason. The short answer (as it's been said a few times here) is to either purchase admin and deal with the issues or use hgbans to report issues.

 

I understand what you mean though. Someone messaged me last night saying that JB was out of control so I popped on for a few minutes. There were 8 admins on and you're right, they weren't doing a thing. They don't have to though, so I don't fault them. I cleaned up the folks who were being derps and the server went back to normal play.

 

All that to say this, there is no easy answer. For now, purchase admin and help (those of us who care) keep the server running smooth.

[SmellyButtCheeks]

For now, purchase admin and help (those of us who care) keep the server running smooth.

But the thing is, if you want to help the server, it shouldn't be about BUYING something that should be done for free. Let the people who want admin for themselves buy it. I thought this was a pretty simple point but apparently not.

[Zezima]

Pole man.... you do realize that even with admin you still have to post on HG bans, why not just take the few seconds extra as a non admin and add in their name and steamID?

 

Having been a trusted admin before getting into leadership, I'm here to tell you that giving admin to someone who plays jailbreak a lot isn't the right course of action. There are many players, some banned now some not, that play jailbreak constantly but are HUGE trolls. Stylez put it the right way, just because you don't have paymin doesn't mean you can't clean up the servers, it takes about 2 minutes to put up a ban report and pm someone to approve it. You CAN help the server for free, it's a simple point you just aren't willing to put in the work.

[The one and only Mega]

I love making ban reports, not that have made any here i think... But it doesn't take much time to make one and you can also do something for the server when you are punishing the people that deserves to get punished. The one problem i have noticed is that I live in a different timezone than you and sometimes there aren't many or any admin on. But the system works, I also like the part where advisor++ has to accept the ban.

[Eddie the Great]

While I see what Zezima and StyleZ are saying. I was on last night and people were getting freekilled every couple rounds including me and it was rather annoying because even after I showed that I was freekiled (for example I was in a custom LR I linked it then linked that I was killed by that same person) admins did not do anything. I get it they do not have to do anything but generally its little things like that they need to be punished for with a slay for a tlist for a couple rounds or so. Going and posting on HGBans for a freekill or camp is not going get that far and dismissed probably on the ban list. And again I get it, paymins are not required to do anything but sometimes people just cannot afford the money or have no source of buying it (like me I can afford I just do not have a credit card of some sort to pay for it).

[RedDevil6193]

TLDR NO THANKS.