This ban is not currently active. It is disapproved. It has expired. | |
Ban Category | Regular Ban |
Subject Steam ID | 0:30402831 |
Subject Name | -hg- Deus |
By | braided_a |
Server (And Mod) | Web |
Datetime Added | (79mon 3wk 2d 5h 7m ago)2018-10-10 06:29 PM |
Duration | (Inactive) (Passed)2 hours |
Retired Leadership | Has votekicked mods over things like cading differences in the past (against me) He was muted because he was not shutting up about politics after being asked to by Duphin, was disrupting the ZS chat. In response he votekicked Duphin, a Mod, who told me he wasnt sure what to do, so he only stopped the vote, so I poked him in TS, telling him that votekicking people of rank is against the rules, dont do it again. https://gyazo.com/6e8272e4356fcc84928f4de5156ebc9e https://gyazo.com/ec9822b2d560f4d25f4d331964b3b5d1 ends up with this, he doesnt seem to understand that he cant just break the rules. What another admin does to another isnt just not his business but doesnt affect him. The difference here is two admins joking with one another vs someone who isnt happy with their punishment and votekicks for it Bottom line is he doesnt respect leadership and talks back when warned about rule breaking. Being here for a long time doesnt give you a free pass or special permissions. I wasnt really sure what to say to this guy to make him understand, hopefully a ban or a demotion will help. Whoever responds can decide |
HG Member | Unfortunately Braided_Asshair. That is not the full length of the conversation, and i find it hard to believe that you would intentionally cut out the rest of the chat just because you want to get a point across. now i believe it's very important to tell you this, Because you don't have the full conversation, and since i already closed it off, i cannot get it unfortunately. Now i think it's very important. That you know, that i was NOT! the only one, so simply putting the blame on me makes you look terribly.. Excuse me Ignorant. Also Regarding our chat, i do point it out to you, that you are not allowed to dictate what's disrespectful and what's not. here is the definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disrespect You have disrespected me several times, i could also bring that up, but that's for another time. Brendan Tan, and i along with a couple of other people, were talking about Politics, and just because a certain individual does not like it, that doesn't mean it should be stopped. i mean when i see you guys talk "shit" about other things i tell you to stop, but.. i get told to "Stfu" because Moderators feelings are more important right? Now i don't Deny Votekicking Duphin, However!, muting people just because you dislike the topic without warning the first time. only warning us the 2nd time we do it. it says nothing in the rules about not talking about politics, and as the small text in the rules section which can be found Here: https://hellsgamers.com/topic/83628-zombie-survival-server-rules/ Clearly States that and i quote: "Any loopholes and discrepancies will NOT be accepted. If you think you're getting around a rule ask a DL, DS or a Mod first." and that clearly hangs with admin rules "1" and i quote "Admins must abide by the same rules as players." so i heard something a long time ago, about if an admin abuses you can votekick him if you think your cause is just and you can defend it. and i'd also like to point out that if i did break a rule however, then it's spamming but all of you people do that on a regular basis, so if i get banned for that, then you should also ban yourselves. don't get me wrong, i am not trying to be a "dick" but put yourselves in my shoes. if i told all of you guys to "STFU" about a certain topic ingame would you really switch?, no i don't think so. and back to the chat history that Braided_Asshair and i had. It is not up the reciever to decide whether or not they are getting disrespected. because according to the definition of disrespect, which you can find futher up. is that... Definition of disrespect (Entry 1 of 2) transitive verb 1 : to lack special regard or respect for : to have disrespect (see DISRESPECT entry 2) for disrespects authority 2 : to show or express disrespect or contempt for : INSULT, DIS disrespected the officer disrespect noun Definition of disrespect (Entry 2 of 2) 1 : low regard or esteem for someone or something : lack of respect // treating a teacher with disrespect // meant no disrespect to you Sidenote: i even told Braided_Asshair, that i never insulted him or duphin for that matter, and honestly. toss your feelings aside when you are dealing with me because i speak facts not feeling. and you have no right what so ever to use your own definitions of things, because just imagine how the world would be, because then i could say you have been insulting me throughout the chat because my "feelings" in regards to "Has votekicked mods over things like cading differences in the past (against me)" save that for another time, that's invalid, since i told you in the chat to leave your feeling out of the report, since i could say you have done the same thing once, which you acutally have. EDIT: i'd like to point out that you are missing at least 10 lines of Text Braided_Asshair in your "proof" Sincerely -hg- Deus |
HG Veteran | In response to what Deus said. Yes talking about politics is not against the rules, although we tend to avoid stuff like that because it stirs up controversy in the chat. I'm sure you know what results come about from bringing politics into ZS. Votekicking mods/admins is not acceptable and this applies to mods/admins as well. If you believe an mod/admin is abusing you post an abuse report or talk to staff about it. As for the both of you, this can be resolved in other manners other then being at each others throat. This is no way to represent HG. The both of you know better than to votekick others even if it is for "fun". If the problem continues please contact either myself or other staff members. Working out your differences and getting along is the best way to go about this and to avoid further escalation. If you have any question you know how to reach me. Disapproved. |
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