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Subject Name  Lookup other bans for [HG] NoYOU[HG] NoYOU
By  Lookup other bans by 20285 limp hotdog
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Datetime Added  (147mon 1wk 6d 3h 49m ago)2013-08-04 07:38 AM
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147mon 1wk 6d 3h 49m ago | 2013-08-04 07:38 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by limp hotdog
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I can't find anything specific about this topic on the forums and NoYOU challenged people who contested this to take it to the forums, so here we are.

The scenario: NoYOU uses that button in the knife arena room to call a 300 day in the dungeon. He counts down, threatening to kill Ts still at the spawn point for this day by the time he finishes counting. Those who did not comply were killed. Many people argued that this should not be done since in essence the Ts are "trapped" like in a last guard situation. NoYOU justified his action in that they simply weren't following orders. To me, this seems a bit extreme, considering that an automated 300 is essentially a war day in a limited zone. When the 300 day is called via the button, no one is a rebel by default, and since the area is VERY small in which one can maneuver, it seems a bit draconic to be able to kill Ts that want to strategize up top being on the top level of dungeon rather than the lower level. For example, a lead running an obstacle 300 really should not force Ts to be on a particular tier when a typical warday gives the Ts the freedom to judge how they want to fight the CTs. I understand that in something like duck hunt that if someone is rebelling or not moving to participate in the "day", the lead has every right to kill those players. However, when the Ts are pitted against the CTs in this sort of fashion, the lead is a de facto last guard, as he/she is the only player with total liberty to move around the map.

This incident takes place starting around tick 4k; you will need to use the drive function to actually view these kills, even though they are quick and obvious in the upper right hand corner or in console while watching the demo.



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147mon 1wk 6d 3h 14m ago | 2013-08-04 08:13 AM Click to get direct link to this postPost by InstantNoodles
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Personally, I don't see a problem in what he did. If he wants a warday in dungeon, he can make u guys go down there. Ur not exactly trapped, u have somewhere u can run to and thats dungeon. If the lead wanted to continue killing people, he would have to go into dungeon with the ts and risk getting killed. With dungeon 300 u can just run into the dungeon, fight, and hopefully get to lr/last guard. What Noyou did looked pretty legit to me.

*edit* What i noticed was the admins lack of response to the amount of mic spam happening during that day.
147mon 1wk 6d 3h 3m ago | 2013-08-04 08:25 AM InstantNoodles disapproved ban
147mon 1wk 6d 1h 1m ago | 2013-08-04 10:26 AM InstantNoodles locked thread
147mon 1wk 5d 19h 48m ago | 2013-08-04 03:39 PM RedDevil6193 unlocked thread
147mon 1wk 5d 19h 46m ago | 2013-08-04 03:41 PM Click to get direct link to this postPost by RedDevil6193
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Yes he cant kill trapped ts until if he is last guard, before that he can do anything and he is still lead, so if he asked you to go in and you didnt, means you are not following order so you deserve to die.

There were no fks here.

Dont nit pick rules.
147mon 1wk 5d 19h 46m ago | 2013-08-04 03:41 PM RedDevil6193 locked thread

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