November Yankee Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Abuse Report Abuser Name [HG] Admiral MacK [CE] [M] Abuser's Steam ID/Unique ID STEAM_0:0:226182445 Where did this occur? TF2 What server? HG] Trade 2 Minecraft 2014 | 100% Crits | RTD | GameME How long ago did this take place? Very recently, less than an hour ago. Give us a brief description of the incident. I was muted for a reason that I was not given, as well as a warning that I was not given. After questioning the administrator in the game chat, I was silenced. I added them, asking for clarification, to be met with what felt like speaking to a robot with no emotion, and not getting what I was asked for. I was also refused a recording of the incident to clear the entire argument up. I feel that this was abuse, because he muted not me, but several others for reasons that made little to no sense at all. I was told to just "live with it" since it doesn't affect me, despite wanting to advertise a sell for an unusual item. I was then told that I was making an "immature" report, as well as the implication he was offended by my initial report. Proof Links? https://pastebin.com/CS9MuZZvhttps://pastebin.com/1MAvFY6M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral MacK Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 As per the TF2 Rules & Guidelines I followed proper procedure to handle the members of the server who were breaking the rules. You were one of the members who was not only making multiple noises on the mic and talking like mario characters, but also talking over other server members on the mic. You later posted a response in the HG TF2 Steam Group about the "Abuse" after refusing to look at the proper and provided evidence which was my executed administrative actions. You also refused to simply scroll back into chat to see where I actually output the warning. Warnings: https://i.imgur.com/Ltkeivt.jpg - https://i.imgur.com/Vh3jGTX.jpg Mute/Silence: https://i.imgur.com/Uy1SxLj.jpg - https://i.imgur.com/kjk9jMt.jpg Chat history: http://www.hellsgamers.gameme.com/player_histories/chat/8187260 Our Chat over Steam Message (recording): http://www.mediafire.com/file/pbd3769e5qdv3ba/2019-02-23_23-44-16.mp4/file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November Yankee Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 If this is the case, then show me yourself, show me where I refused to scroll up to. I have asked this, and you have just sent me out of context screenshots that, for all I know, don't even apply to me. This isn't helping me at all, this is just making this issue more, and more, and more complicated. I'd like it if one of your superiors actually responded, rather you, the one that I'm reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral MacK Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Both the Abuse Reporter and the convicted Abused are supposed to respond and provide backed proof to their claims, that's what I'm doing. I did nothing incorrect here and I am doing everything to the proper extent to make that clear for everyone. I do not respond kindly to those who are refusing to simply read Divisional Admin Procedures and simple Server Player Rules. Our entire chat is shown in my previous response. You can see where I said everything. Demo download: http://www.mediafire.com/file/f2jgncijuscburn/2019-02-23_22-32-51.dem/file Ticks:17000 - starts talking with mario character voices24000 - Talks in normal voice (proves hes making fake voices later)31000 - Talking in the character voice again32000 - More noises on the mic34000 - More noises and the voice again a lot34500 - First warning38000 - More noises & voices39500 - Yells on the mic42500 - More noises45000 - Makes noises and character again - Mutes him47500 - Immature comment to an admin after the mute49500 - I explain why I muted some people & you continue to pester me52900 - You ask where the previous warning were (they were clearly in chat earlier 2 times)54000 - You admit to your wrong doings (then why did you report me for abuse?)55000 - Starts asking other players how it made sense (drama seeking act)56000 - I paste the previous warnings into chat57000 - Agrees with another player on not receiving “a single warning” when you both received two under 5 minute ago58000 - Starts to pester me directly accusing me of posting warnings after punishment for “fake proof”59000 - Publicly accuses me again of abuse (pestering)59900 - Warning for “Do not pester admins”61000 - I inform you how to access the server player and admin rules list to explain why.62000 - Continues to pester me and I silence you. PS - You didn't even get my SteamID correct... Edited February 24, 2019 by Admiral MacK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Knight Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Relevant server logs: Admin Actions L 02/23/2019 - 22:33:42: [hg_basechat.smx] "[HG] Admiral MacK [CE] [M]<552><[U:1:452364890]><>" triggered sm_say (text Stop making noises on the mic.) L 02/23/2019 - 22:33:43: [hg_basechat.smx] "[HG] Admiral MacK [CE] [M]<552><[U:1:452364890]><>" triggered sm_say (text Do not mic / chat spam.) L 02/23/2019 - 22:44:21: [hg_chat.smx] "[HG] Admiral MacK [CE] [M]<552><[U:1:452364890]><>" muted "November Yankee #253<537><[U:1:192230045]><>" L 02/23/2019 - 22:47:51: [hg_basechat.smx] "[HG] Admiral MacK [CE] [M]<552><[U:1:452364890]><>" triggered sm_say (text Do not pester admins.) L 02/23/2019 - 22:48:28: [hg_chat.smx] "[HG] Admiral MacK [CE] [M]<552><[U:1:452364890]><>" silenced "November Yankee #253<537><[U:1:192230045]><>" Chat Entries L 02/23/2019 - 22:44:47: "November Yankee #253<537><[U:1:192230045]><Blue>" say "Alright admin, I get it, fun isn't allowed lol" L 02/23/2019 - 22:46:32: "November Yankee #253<537><[U:1:192230045]><Blue>" say "I was using a silly voice to have fun while having a conversation" L 02/23/2019 - 22:47:44: "November Yankee #253<537><[U:1:192230045]><Blue>" say "How did you get admin, exactly? You're abusive and overbearing with your powers." L 02/23/2019 - 22:48:21: "November Yankee #253<537><[U:1:192230045]><Blue>" say "'You aren't allowed to talk because you disagree with me' " 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Knight Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Your proof of abuse is not sufficient for a report. A pastebin of the chat does not prove that you were not micspamming or arguing with one of our moderators. Since Admiral decided to provide a demo of the situation, I have reviewed it for abuse anyway. You were being excessive in voice chat with noises and voices, we ask that players use voice chat with a regular voice and do not make obnoxious, unneeded, or loud noises. This is especially important on our trade servers as the primary use of the voice chat is allocated to those looking to offer trades, discuss trades, and so forth. Even if someone is not trading at the time, it may deter them from wanting to use our servers for trading in the future. Perhaps if you had only done it a couple of times this would be a different situation. Your claims that you were not warned are also not true, the server logs match the demo file as well, showing that you were warned about it on several occasions. We do also have a rule against causing drama and arguing with our admins, especially in a disrespectful way. If you disagree with an action an admin has taken, you need to discuss it with leadership or make an abuse report, not ridicule them and cause drama and then make a report. You can reference our rules for TF2 in this thread or in the MOTD. I will, however, advise Admiral to be a bit more lenient about voice chat use. Not abuse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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