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We should schedule a meeting to discuss this country's situation in a 2 years......

 

Do you think the UN is going to get him to change our name even?

 

Well, at least all those people who didn't pay any taxes, or contribute anything to our society will get those tax rebates they deserve.

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THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER

 

This one is a little different... Two Different Versions!

Two Different Morals!

 

OLD VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long,

building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

 

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays

the summer away.

 

Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.

The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

 

 

MORAL OF THE STORY: Be responsible for yourself!

 

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MODERN VERSION:

 

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his

house and laying up supplies for the winter.

 

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays

the summer away.

Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and

demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed

while others are cold and starving.

 

CBS, NBC , PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering

grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a

table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast.

 

How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper

is allowed to suffer so?

 

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody cries

when they sing, 'It's Not Easy Being Green.'

 

Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the

news stations film the group singing, 'We shall overcome.' Jesse then has

the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake.

 

Nancy Pelosi & John Kerry exclaim in an interview with Larry King that

the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for

an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.

 

Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act

retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

 

The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs

and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is

confiscated by the government.

 

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the

ants food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be

the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it.

 

The ant has disappeared in the snow.

 

The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house,

now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once

peaceful neighborhood.

 

 

MORAL OF THE STORY: Be sure you understand who you voted for in 2008. -fdhelmin

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I am sick of seeing people pull up to the grocery store in a Cadillac with 24's, then they pay for their shit in food stamps. Then go home to a house that they don't have to pay for (USUALLY NICE HOMES!)...and continue to live like this without a job, selling drugs, committing many different frauds to make money.

 

And this whole time they are also doing drugs, clubbing and partying all week and weekend and living a destructive life for themselves as well as society.

 

Why the fuck am I punished because I want to work for a living, and keep my dick in my pants and not have kids until I am able to take care of myself and a family.

 

I will never understand this world...

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It kind of bugs me that everyone assumes people who go on unemployment or some other social services are parasites.

I'll explain to you why I myself voted for Obama, with a story.

 

My father works construction. Excavation to be specific. He has been at this job for about 20 years, previously working as a farmer. He works 50-60 hour weeks.

 

Now, as to how construction generally works.

 

At the top is a big company. Halliburton is a good example.

 

In it's employ, Halliburton has probably tens of thousands of contractors at its beck and call.

 

Now, say for example, a mall in your area was looking to expand. What the Mall owner/CEO,whoever would do is hire a company like Halliburton, and Halliburton would send one of its local contractors to the mall owner to discuss what they want done. The contractor then hires subcontractors, generally small businesses like my father's company that he works for. The subcontractors do their job, whether its excavation, construction or the like.

 

Now here is where trouble brews,

 

Subcontractors are sometimes asked to initially cover the cost of materials and such, to be reimbursed once the job is done. That, along with the cost of labor and such can be very expensive.

 

Now, the problem that occurs is sometimes the contractors are greedy. On more than one occasion, the contractor my father's company has worked for has taken the entire payment for the operation and run off with it. It's a rather big sum. My father did a job for a huge auto lot, Fucillo Hyundai. The company my dad works for was expecting around 100,000 dollars for the job. Overall the entire job cost Fucillo Hyundai I'm guessing in the neighborhood of 1 or 2 million. Now, how the payment ladder works is the person who hired the contractor gives the money to the contractor, and then they are the ones who divy it up to the subcontractors. On this particular occasion, the contractor took all that money and, from all accounts, ran off to another state.

 

I bet you're thinking "why not just call the police and/or feds and get him jailed?"

 

Not so easy.

 

Contractors are able to withhold payment to a sub if they feel that the job was not done sufficiently. It can be all or part of the payment, at their discretion. This contractor in particular stated that none of the subs he hired had done their job to the extent they were asked, which was his reasoning for withholding payment.

 

It was a sack of lies of course, he even sent a letter to my father's company stating they did an amazing job and would be glad to hire them again. But that kind of thing doesn't matter in this case.

 

So, my father's company, along with some of the others that got shafted, sued the contractor. But he has excellent lawyers on his side and if he so chose, could draw out the case for years and years to come, which would bankrupt my father's company before they even saw a penny of it. So they had to settle. Wanna guess for how much? about 25,000 dollars after lawyer fees. Out of the original 100,000 they were owed, they received a quarter of it.

 

 

And as for that contractor that scammed them? He is still employed by a large contracting company, getting a huge paycheck while working in another state.

 

My father's company had to cut a few people off the payroll. Those they didn't cut, they sometimes can't even afford to pay every week. During the winter, my father is forced to go on unemployment and work under the table at odd jobs just to keep the house with food in the winter.

 

So don't any of you DARE talk shit about everyone that goes on unemployment until you know every circumstance. Not everyone goes on unemployment because they want to be welfare kings. Sometimes its a matter of supporting your family because one douchebag decided he wanted a new Ferrari.

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Andy, I wasn't targeting the unemployed. I was merely pointing out what it means for someone to work hard and get ahead, while other's goof off. I wasn't saying anything about the unemployed who have greater aspirations and were forced into that situation. Simmer, simmer like a stove.

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Yeah ditto on that.

My issue is with the ones that know how to work the system instead of work for the system. Which makes all the people who work for the system work harder and for less.

 

Anyone can sit on their ass and think of ways to get ahead by taking advantage of others. (like orangecrush)

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HINT HINT: THERE IS MORE THAN TAXES AT STAKE. Now, granted Obama's tax plan sucks more fat nuts than McCain's, if you ACTUALLY READ - yes, I know it's that hard - you'll notice that McCain's stance on other issues such as healthcare, international credibility, and the economic crisis are pretty weak.

 

My father's engineering firm makes more than 250k a year. He himself makes more than 250k a year. Obama's tax plan hits both, hurting us twice as bad. Doesn't make sense does it? My dad immigrated here at the age of 24 and went through 6 years of school to eventually repay over 50k in student loans. Why did he and my mom still vote for Obama? Look at the other things, not just taxes. Think about what's best for the nation as whole and your kids, not yourself.

 

If you want to be selfish and cry about why hard-working people like you should get taxed more, look at the opportunities you have. As Lamp said, not everyone who is on welfare simply leeches off other people. THere are genuine people hurt by the economic crisis and they got laid off. You still have a job, I still have a job. Be happy for what you have.

 

Anyways, if we don't pay off this 10 trillion dollar debt soon, we'll soon be owned by China...

 

In the meantime you guys should have voted Bob Barr. Staunch economic conservative, moderate-liberal socially.

 

 

 

On another bright note about how you guys are complete morons ;), half of you cry about socialism. Clark, Richie and I go to public school. It's paid by the STATE AND OUR TAXES. THAT IS SOCIALISM. The FCC, what keeps Richie's pure heart clean of all the crap in this world. It's run by the government. THAT IS SOCIALISM.

 

We already implement a shitload of socialist policies.

 

HIGH FIVE!

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That is why I am a staunch supporter of school choice(vouchers). The schools have to account for the students that go through their school. They don't at the moment. When they have these standardized tests, the ones that are done to show the school's credibilty, they actually have a one hour a day class for a whole quarter just to have them study those tests. Each student is put with a group that is studying what he/she needs help in. That is not accountability. That is cheating the system so that the school these students go to can get more funding. The rest of the year is usually shit. Richie is in a charter school called "Synectics".

 

Public schools are a form of socialism. It has failed most students. It continues to fail most students.

 

I believe that a free market society will eventually always correct itself. The bigger the government, the bigger the failure.

 

Ronald Reagan once said that the scariest words in the English language were, "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help".

 

As for the FCC, society for the most part, I believe is a moral one. Parents should be able to properly shield their children as well as they can. There are no absolutes. Things will happen that you cannot control.

 

The less government interferes with the private sector, the better.

 

 

 

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."

 

-Sir Winston Churchill

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The free market system may correct itself over time, but at what cost? Left to its own devices, we see things like some of the "golden parachutes" of Goldman Sachs Execs, where they get paid millions of dollars for running a company into the ground. We are always told they represent the company and it's best interests. If so, why is said public company giving execs millions for doing a terrible job?

 

Now, I'm not saying "yay, yay, go socialism!", but what I am saying is, just like communism itself, capitalism only truly works in a utopian society where greed and corruption are not factors.

 

We need regulation in our economy.

 

 

/rant

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