Wingless Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 You've completely missed the point of my statements. You can't ramble about all of the reasons why you shouldn't legalize pot when almost every example you give as to why is equally true of drugs that are already legal. By this train of thought, ALL mind altering substances should be deemed illegal. I didn't want to have to say this, but this is totally bullshit and has been proven by numerous scientific and reliable sources. If you regularly use marijuana you will become psychologically dependent on it. There are far more addictive substances, but marijuana is addictive and can mess up lives. I don't know if you didn't listen or if you're trying to misrepresent, but there is no conclusive evidence that marijuana is addictive. One or two LEGITIMATE studies either way does not make the subject. Marijuana is HABITUATING, but that is not the same thing as a ADDICTING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 http://www.erowid.com Do research and dont argue on the points your mother told you Its real simple, The Timber companies realized hemp was a cheap solution and they wanted to stay in business so they encouraged bogus studies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slazenger Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I'm going to end it here, because this isn't an argument that's winnable for either side, even with a well-prepared argument because the ignorance on both sides makes all arguments invalid. Regardless, you know where I stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredTacos Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) Thread unlocked. No-one is calling names, just a little debate, get over it. I agree with wingless. Just because the government makes something illegal doesn't mean it's bad for you, there are SEVERAL "drugs" that are banned with no proof of dangerous side effects. I don't know how many live in Cali that tried to get a hold of "pot" but it's actually extremely easy. Do you know how easy it is to get a "medical marijuana" card? Takes very little effort. The line between legality of pot is very thin in Cali. It basically comes down to the fact that it's legal already in Cali (on a state level), just have to work the system a little bit. Examples that I know of that piss me off are 1. Steroids. 2. Ephedrine Edited March 26, 2010 by Terry Taco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredTacos Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I cannot think of anyone I know who regularly smokes weed and is able to function as effectively or intelligently as people who are clean.. Two of my best friends smoke on a daily basis and hold pretty high GPA's in a major university here. What is your explanation for that? You have none, you're judging all pot smokers "ruined lives" from what you've READ or the few you have "seen". I have quite a few friends that smoke, I can only think of a few who I consider dumber because of "pot" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaMigra Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 i see it as a negative because i grew up in a really bad neighborhood where pot heads where so stoned they would start problems... mostly shootings and theft at gun point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Holy shit........ I need to move to California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 i see it as a negative because i grew up in a really bad neighborhood where pot heads where so stoned they would start problems... mostly shootings and theft at gun point I wouldnt blame marijuana for that, but for the dumbfuck methheads that had shit parents that dont know any better than to be failures Racism is a crime, and crime is -------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koragan Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 And knowing is half the battle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredTacos Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 i see it as a negative because i grew up in a really bad neighborhood where pot heads where so stoned they would start problems... mostly shootings and theft at gun point WTF? I never seen someone "stoned" start problems. Maybe they were retarded and not stoned :lame: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Marijuana can be a terrible thing if you cant handle it.... so can cigarettes and alcohol if your 21 and can make your own decisions and be a responsible adult. i think you should be able to legally enjoy the benefits of marijuana. and for migra i dont live in the best of neighbor hoods and i have seen what it can do to people and its not a good thing. but ive seen people beat their wives when their drunk and also have seen people die of lung cancer because of nicotine. theres no such thing as a perfect drug always repercussions and consequences but weed is one of the safer drugs compared to others. But for the people that arent open minded about the topic and are "hard headed" should consider it and think about it a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1ckkkkk Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxllegalmarijuana,0,122178.story I couldn't put it in the news section, so I put it here. What do you guys think? It hasn't passed yet, and hopefully won't pass. P.S no flaming thx Good going Prius! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHelmet Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I'm not a pot head and have no interest in trying it,but I think it should stay illegal except for medical reasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinta Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Two of my best friends smoke on a daily basis and hold pretty high GPA's in a major university here. What is your explanation for that? You have none, you're judging all pot smokers "ruined lives" from what you've READ or the few you have "seen". I have quite a few friends that smoke, I can only think of a few who I consider dumber because of "pot" Uhhhh, back when I used to smoke pot..... I got a free bag of weed from a girl i worked with's boyfriend once. Apparently I was a big help to her so her boyfriend who I didn't know smoked gave me a bag of weed to say thanks. I went to go smoke the bag of weed and was shortly caught by my supervisor...... I never knew he was typically high when he was at work until he asked for a hit and continued with his day as he normally would. Turns out he was mostly stoned when I saw him or asked him to speak with customers.... I will say though that as far as legality it should be no more legal than alcohol. In other words, there's a time and a place for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingless Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Also, I don't see how all arguments are invalid. They all have merit. There is no such thing as an invalid argument, only invalid logic. Pot doesn't ruin people, alcohol doesn't ruin people and guns don't kill people. It's the people that cause these things to become problematic, and they have nobody to blame but themselves when it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredTacos Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I will say though that as far as legality it should be no more legal than alcohol. In other words, there's a time and a place for it. Also, I don't see how all arguments are invalid. They all have merit. There is no such thing as an invalid argument, only invalid logic. Pot doesn't ruin people, alcohol doesn't ruin people and guns don't kill people. It's the people that cause these things to become problematic, and they have nobody to blame but themselves when it happens. Double agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaMigra Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Also, I don't see how all arguments are invalid. They all have merit. There is no such thing as an invalid argument, only invalid logic. Pot doesn't ruin people, alcohol doesn't ruin people and guns don't kill people. It's the people that cause these things to become problematic, and they have nobody to blame but themselves when it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishoujo Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 \The big flaw with this line of reasoning is that alcohol is just as bad, if not WORSE in every imaginable way, and yet, nobody has uttered a single word about banning booze. They banned booze once....... remember?? In the history of the United States, Prohibition, also known as The Noble Experiment, is the period from 1920-1933, during which the sale, manufacture, and transportation of alcohol for consumption were banned nationally as mandated in the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Illegalizing Pot doesn't make the government as unpopular as illegalizing Alcohol :cheers: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 WTF? I never seen someone "stoned" start problems. Maybe they were retarded and not stoned :lame: I agree with Terry on this one, A lot of people smoke pot where i live, Legal or Illegal they deal in class, 25% of kids at our school are stoned when they come in, they act 100 times and behave 100 timesb etter than what they do when they are not, or when they're under in influence of alcohol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slazenger Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I agree with Terry on this one, A lot of people smoke pot where i live, Legal or Illegal they deal in class, 25% of kids at our school are stoned when they come in, they act 100 times and behave 100 timesb etter than what they do when they are not, or when they're under in influence of alcohol Hard to not act fine when you're sedentary, detached, and relaxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantBeFaded Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 EVERYBODY MUST GET STONED:drugs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 The war on drugs is an expensive battle and the government could gain much tax revenue by legalizing marijuana. I'm all for it being legalized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingless Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 They banned booze once....... remember?? In the history of the United States, Prohibition, also known as The Noble Experiment, is the period from 1920-1933, during which the sale, manufacture, and transportation of alcohol for consumption were banned nationally as mandated in the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Illegalizing Pot doesn't make the government as unpopular as illegalizing Alcohol :cheers: We like to call his "hypocrisy". "We're not going to legalize pot because of all of these factors, but we're sure as hell not going to outlaw booze again for meeting the same criteria." Hard to not act fine when you're sedentary, detached, and relaxed. You meant this as a negative, right? Violent crime is almost unheard of when it comes to stoned people. I mean, while we're looking at negatives, we might as well look at fringe benefits too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00k1em0nst3r Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Legalizing weed can boost the economy through the sin tax that would be imposed on it, so it can help our economy. No doubt about that...but it's not worth the risk of legalizing it. It impedes your judgement and your overall actions. Sure, you can smoke when you don't have anything to do, but I think it affects to many people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Legalizing weed can boost the economy through the sin tax that would be imposed on it, so it can help our economy. No doubt about that...but it's not worth the risk of legalizing it. It impedes your judgement and your overall actions. Sure, you can smoke when you don't have anything to do, but I think it affects to many people i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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