New MOTD changes (Wait, what?)

[Sock]

make rules for armory/vent camping and button spamming

 

Anything that required the ct to do something was taken out. They no longer have to pay attention because baiting was taken out. They can camp armory all they want. They can delay lr all they want. They no longer have to give correct orders.

Like I said in the General forum thread, the motd was written for ct by ct.

[JJK]

Anything that required the ct to do something was taken out. They no longer have to pay attention because baiting was taken out. They can camp armory all they want. They can delay lr all they want. They no longer have to give correct orders.

Like I said in the General forum thread, the motd was written for ct by ct.

 

I rarely play CT, so thats a fail.

 

You made your point, stop flaming.

[Fabz]

Why was the MOTD shortened?

 

Like now there are no rules basicly.

 

Just about 15 rules out of the 103739743947 rules there used to be.

 

IMO I miss the old MOTD

[JJK]

Why was the MOTD shortened?

 

Like now there are no rules basicly.

 

Just about 15 rules out of the 103739743947 rules there used to be.

 

IMO I miss the old MOTD

 

Feel free to explain why.

 

Whats missing?

[Horskin]

I CANNOT BELIEVE THESE CHANGES THIS IS SOOOO BAD!!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!.

[Fabz]

Feel free to explain why.

 

Whats missing?

 

The rules, the no camping the

 

That is what is missing.

[JJK]

half of that shit is repeating or outdated, If you watn to make teh MOTD better offer suggestions, if you want to bitch and moan..well...dont.

[Cr(+)sshair]

MOTD is fine as is. People had a harder time learning the rules with the old one. The new one suffices in all angles.

[I Love Lamp]

We want the server to be accessible to people. It's not very efficient if someone has to sit down and read for 10 minutes before they can even start playing.

[Church]

Honestly there ARE too many rules left out of the new MOTD. And yes we DO need almost everything covered in the MOTD or some asshole with see it as a loophole and exploit the lack of rules to their advantage.

 

The problem with changing the MOTD so quickly and all the time is people get used to all the previous rules and now that they're different people either begin to break them unknowingly, or try to enforce ones that aren't there anymore.

 

Less rules= more room for nitpicking and loopholes.

 

Where are the rules for camping before last CT? How about the rules against interfering with LR? Or delaying it? What about favoritism rules? What about the rule against CT's blocking areas with items. Like vents? Or how about this rule:

 

"Do not camp inside of armory or vents, only if you are chasing a rebel."

 

This rule is so vague it's not even funny. So we can't camp inside of armory or vents unless we're chasing a rebel? So we can camp as long as a rebel is in vents or armory?

 

Obviously with common sense you'd see that no you can't CAMP but you can CHASE them into armory/vents, but that's me. Most people are retards who will loophole that rule and just camp.

 

I'm wondering if any of you staff who have written this MOTD have taken the time to actually PLAY for a good amount of time to where you can judge the intelligence levels of the people who play in our server.

 

You're trying to fix something that's always going to be broken. Changing the MOTD like this will NOT allow for fewer FKs, or a more fun atmosphere. Changing it like this will keep the same amount of FK's, and with too few, or clear, rules will make it more frustrating to players.

 

How many threads complaining about the old MOTD did you get? I saw a couple asking for revisions of a couple of rules, maybe try and shorten it because their lazy asses didn't want to take the time to read it, but I hardly saw any "OMFG THIS MOTD SUCKS IT'S SO HARD TO PLAY WITH IT! PEOPLE DO THIS AND THAT AND IT RUINS STUFF!". Yet that's what I'm seeing here.

 

tl;dr, revise the MOTD and add a couple more rules so people don't exploit them plz ty.

 

And stop being so lazy. You have to read everything that anyone types ingame anyway, why not take a minute to read the rules so you don't get in trouble? Wtf is wrong with people these days...

[JessicaJoy]

Church,

 

I'm wondering if any of you staff who have written this MOTD have taken the time to actually PLAY for a good amount of time to where you can judge the intelligence levels of the people who play in our server.

 

JJK is often in jailbreak. He plays and watches what it is now like. Since he has been away for awhile. JJK started this server way back when. He created the first MOTD, which I started playing on. He has also asked several people in these "NEW MOTD SUCKS" threads what should be added or changed. No one seems to get this.

 

JJK IS ASKING FOR YOUR OPINION!!!!

 

Less rules= more room for nitpicking and loopholes.

 

I agree with this to an extent. There are certain things that should be written out in the MOTD such as the weird days. ie: Warday

Warday is often mistaken for something that cannot be revoked. Warday CAN be revoked, but no CT ever does that. Once lead dies, then someone else can take over. The only thing...is that all the T's have guns already, good luck taking control of that situation. But they can be revoked once the lead that declared it is dead.

 

or a more fun atmosphere

 

The reason why it isn't a fun atmosphere ATM is because we are still in the beginning stages of the MOTD. Most everything is still in this MOTD, it is just compressed.

[I Love Lamp]

We want input and ideas, not bitching. We are NOT going back to the giant MOTD. We are trying to give more discretion to admins when situations arise, rather than writing out every single event. And, if any of you actually paid attention, there was still PLENTY of nitpicking, even when we had the long form MOTD.

[Illmatic]

Just PLEASE add baiting back. Now we honestly have ct's standing inside of t's and getting in the path, etc. Then when they stab.... Boom headshot

BS!

[Church]

We want input and ideas, not bitching. We are NOT going back to the giant MOTD. We are trying to give more discretion to admins when situations arise, rather than writing out every single event. And, if any of you actually paid attention, there was still PLENTY of nitpicking, even when we had the long form MOTD.

 

Yes I understand you want input and ideas and I gave both of those, also with some much needed criticism. Please stop mistaking that for complaining or bitching. Seems to be going around lately.

 

You don't have to go back to the huge MOTD, but like I suggested, add a COUPLE of more rules, and maybe an extra line or two on the current rules to make them clearer.

 

Giving discretion to admins is fine in certain cases, but because you allow just ANYONE to purchase admin on any server, obvious problems with them having discretion, is apparent.

 

While I realize there was plenty of nitpicking even when we had the long MOTD, most of it wasn't about the rules, but about loopholes that the CT's made when issuing orders such as "walk to the top of big cage". Well he didn't say we had to freeze when we get there so lets run around and jump maybe even get off the big cage since he didn't specify we couldn't. And honestly I don't see a problem with that. The lead just needs to remove loopholes and problems are solved.

 

With this new MOTD it's not nitpicking orders so much as it is nitpicking the loopholes or sometimes even complete LACK of rules in the MOTD.

 

Like I said you're trying to fix something that will always be broken, yet the way you're going about it now isn't making it less broken, it's adding more cracks.

 

Please REVISE some of it and add our suggestions if it seems like it makes sense. That's all we ask.

[I Love Lamp]

Yes I understand you want input and ideas and I gave both of those, also with some much needed criticism. Please stop mistaking that for complaining or bitching. Seems to be going around lately.

 

You don't have to go back to the huge MOTD, but like I suggested, add a COUPLE of more rules, and maybe an extra line or two on the current rules to make them clearer.

 

Giving discretion to admins is fine in certain cases, but because you allow just ANYONE to purchase admin on any server, obvious problems with them having discretion, is apparent.

 

While I realize there was plenty of nitpicking even when we had the long MOTD, most of it wasn't about the rules, but about loopholes that the CT's made when issuing orders such as "walk to the top of big cage". Well he didn't say we had to freeze when we get there so lets run around and jump maybe even get off the big cage since he didn't specify we couldn't. And honestly I don't see a problem with that. The lead just needs to remove loopholes and problems are solved.

 

With this new MOTD it's not nitpicking orders so much as it is nitpicking the loopholes or sometimes even complete LACK of rules in the MOTD.

 

Like I said you're trying to fix something that will always be broken, yet the way you're going about it now isn't making it less broken, it's adding more cracks.

 

Please REVISE some of it and add our suggestions if it seems like it makes sense. That's all we ask.

 

The server was the number one jailbreak in the world when we had the motd we currently have. The convoluted MOTD we've been running with has destroyed the popularity. The server got along just fine with the MOTD the way it is now for almost 2 years. I think once people readjust to the ruleset being the way it used to be, things will start going smoothly again.

[Church]

The server was the number one jailbreak in the world when we had the motd we currently have. The convoluted MOTD we've been running with has destroyed the popularity. The server got along just fine with the MOTD the way it is now for almost 2 years. I think once people readjust to the ruleset being the way it used to be, things will start going smoothly again.

 

While that's all fine an dandy, there are still some small issues with lack of rules in this MOTD. Let's fix those and THEN I'm sure we'll all shut up and have fun =D

[Moto]

While that's all fine an dandy, there are still some small issues with lack of rules in this MOTD. Let's fix those and THEN I'm sure we'll all shut up and have fun =D

 

somehow I have a feeling that it will never end

[Church]

lol probably not Moto, but at least I'LL shut up and that's a start

[JJK]

thanks church, motd changes will be in capitols for a short time

 

motd says no nitpicking, and hg rules are no exploiting, if peopel are looking for loopholes for them to have fun at teh cost of eeryone else, kick them the fuck off

Edited May 13, 2010 by JJK

[Awwik]

I just kill them now for nit picking. Common sense says when you go to the top of big cage you don't get off. Just kill them.

[I Love Lamp]

I just kill them now for nit picking. Common sense says when you go to the top of big cage you don't get off. Just kill them.

 

This is also partly why we moved to our shorter MOTD. We are trying to put some power back in the hands of our admins.

[Awwik]

. I really like the new motd I think it's great for the server

[General Red]

Ok My opnion: (Although JJK already told me off)

1) Slay yourself for FK

input: Weeman said "its to weed out the douchebags" but what happens when ADMINS arent there?!?!? Fks galore, Oops, im not sorry, deal with it....That son of a bitch...Get the idea?

2) Baiting

Input: These needs to be put back in. Without it, red=dead..... I would like to see you prove me wrong on the red=dead, cause i pretty much never see it glitch red.

3) Explain special days/revokes (amybe even game)

Input: If a warday/zombie day/panda day CAN be offered, and WHEN it can be revoked AND the RULES of that day etc.

 

Other than these, i think the MOTD i just perfect.

 

Im not bitching, these are simply my opinons, and PLEASE dont delete my post.

[Slazenger]

The server was the number one jailbreak in the world when we had the motd we currently have. The convoluted MOTD we've been running with has destroyed the popularity. The server got along just fine with the MOTD the way it is now for almost 2 years. I think once people readjust to the ruleset being the way it used to be, things will start going smoothly again.

I beg to differ. The server was the most popular (from June of '09-present) it had ever been in December with my long-ass MOTD, ranked #1 in the country (there are threads about it). Before then it might've been highly ranked too. But that would just mean that the length of the MOTD and the rules played have no correlation with the popularity. And the server is run for the players, not for the leaders, so shouldn't the rules be tailored for them too?

[mccaincracker]

I don't think somone should be killed for being red unless the CT see's and knows why the T is red.