LEADCT and WARDAYS

[Zezima]

I can see where JJK is coming from with the aspect of trolls, but there is a legitimate chance to accomplish something by using the teleporter at the beginning of the round for armory. I believe it would increase campers and what exactly are all the pro's and con's to implying or not implying, I'm just curious where you're coming from on this JJK so everyone is on the same page.

 

!leadct

 

That is all

 

And is this the command you're suggesting that people have to type to get lead? (just curious)

[F4ithl3ss]

I can see where JJK is coming from with the aspect of trolls, but there is a legitimate chance to accomplish something by using the teleporter at the beginning of the round for armory. I believe it would increase campers and what exactly are all the pro's and con's to implying or not implying, I'm just curious where you're coming from on this JJK so everyone is on the same page.

 

And is this the command you're suggesting that people have to type to get lead? (just curious)

 

yes, whoever types it first gets lead. If someone without a mic grabs it, he can be voted off by other players, etc.

Would take some time to make this mod though

[JJK]

First to X gets lead - cuts on the spam and argument and buffer overflow...Much more important than wanting to troll in armory as a t

 

Implied no armory - CTs dont have to worry about getting raped while looking at chat to see who X'ed first - and again cuts spam

 

 

Lead can be chosen in about 10 seconds and they can start by giving orders.

 

 

 

if I can hide the !pd spam then lead can be chosen in like 5 seconds

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then there is also lead takign turns / 2-3 turns per lead to think about

[Awwik]

yes, whoever types it first gets lead. If someone without a mic grabs it, he can be voted off by other players, etc.

Would take some time to make this mod though

 

Bad plan, because people would just bind it. Also people from other countries and people who take awhile to get into the game will never get lead.

[JJK]

Bad plan, because people would just bind it. Also people from other countries and people who take awhile to get into the game will never get lead.

 

Thats why i suggested taking turns

 

 

you shouldn't have to tell your prisoner not to take your armory guns

 

 

 

Buffer needs to be addresses asap, it cant wait for coders buzy schedule

[Awwik]

Yes i agree take turns, just like pre school fa****s! , but seriously take turns and I always thought it should have been implied. It doesnt make much sense for people to just run around and get guns in arm. Stay out and be sneaky, and address no camping arm.

[Zezima]

Yeah if it's going to become implied, people camping armory needs to be heavily addressed because it seems like that would heighten once it happens.

[Joe Sano]

love the lead ct switch

hate the wardays i obs

adminroom= instadeath for wardayss in obs

[mccaincracker]

I don't know i think having to type something just to get lead is stupid... I mean there's certain people that will try to hog lead every round, ( Not going to mention names) but i would prefer to have ct's share than having to type something.

 

So if anything were to be implemented, I'd prefer to take turns.

[racker16]

just do a poll tbh

[Zezima]

Mccain, I agree taking turns would be a good idea, that goes along with the whole "sharing is caring" saying. However, like you said, there are some people (not going to name names) who are lead whores that don't share and won't unless they are forced by the game.

Edited April 3, 2011 by Zezima

[Bearthug]

Mccain, I agree taking turns would be a good idea, that goes along with the whole "sharing is caring" saying. However, like you said, there are some people (not going to name names) who are lead whores that don't share and won't unless they are forced by the game.

 

Especially a few admins.......

 

Im glad JJK been playin on JB recently, and took initiative about this subject.

 

Whenever your ready to implement... Im ready!

[Papa John]

We also need to remove the crouch walking order from lead. It is entirely pointless, leads drag it out way to long, and it is intended entirely to derp new players.

[Guest Batters]

yes, whoever types it first gets lead. If someone without a mic grabs it, he can be voted off by other players, etc.

Would take some time to make this mod though

 

how about a mod that the T's vote to become leadCT when they die so the popular CT's are chosen, but after say 3 leads they are muted for the 1st minute for the next 3 rounds. So for 1 minute, you only have 1 CT able to talk which is specified by the T's.

 

We also need to remove the crouch walking order from lead. It is entirely pointless, leads drag it out way to long, and it is intended entirely to derp new players.

 

agree whole heartedly

[JJK]

My old Idea was karma mod

 

players can +1 -1 a playe by typing !karma

 

 

ct with highest karma gets lead priority

[enigma#]

My old Idea was karma mod

 

players can +1 -1 a playe by typing !karma

 

 

ct with highest karma gets lead priority

 

sounds like a good idea

I would go for it, especially on jailbreak xD

Karma would be useful as well for rooting out bad leads -.-

at -n (n something relatively low) , they can't lead. lol I dunno

 

 

Moreover, the idea of typing !leadct would be a good idea as long as console output is kept so that people can actually see it.

 

Another possibility you can use is

1. !leadct attributes who is lead ct

a) All other CTs are muted for 5~10 seconds

2. If CTs try to type !leadct again, it'll display who is leadct

 

I guess the only big caveat is that people will try to spam it previous round so that they can get it the following round

a) Fixing it? Chat spam mod xD

 

dunno +0.02

[Toxygen]

sounds like a good idea

I would go for it, especially on jailbreak xD

Karma would be useful as well for rooting out bad leads -.-

at -n (n something relatively low) , they can't lead. lol I dunno

 

 

Moreover, the idea of typing !leadct would be a good idea as long as console output is kept so that people can actually see it.

 

Another possibility you can use is

1. !leadct attributes who is lead ct

a) All other CTs are muted for 5~10 seconds

2. If CTs try to type !leadct again, it'll display who is leadct

 

I guess the only big caveat is that people will try to spam it previous round so that they can get it the following round

a) Fixing it? Chat spam mod xD

 

dunno +0.02

 

although i don't play jailbreak, i want to point out how easily abused something like Karma could be, it would really just be a popularity contest and if someone didn't like someone else, they could just -karma them and get others to do it unfairly, meh.

[Guest Batters]

although i don't play jailbreak, i want to point out how easily abused something like Karma could be, it would really just be a popularity contest and if someone didn't like someone else, they could just -karma them and get others to do it unfairly, meh.

 

hence i said let all the T's vote for the next round excluidng those that have led for the last 3 rounds. i think this solves the issue. yes, it could be abused by popularity but to vote for lead ct naturally you are getting generally the best lead CT.

[Papa John]

hence i said let all the T's vote for the next round excluidng those that have led for the last 3 rounds. i think this solves the issue. yes, it could be abused by popularity but to vote for lead ct naturally you are getting generally the best lead CT.

 

Unfortunately not all CT's have a mic and the T's...well being T's are more likely then not to vote for someone that will not talk.

[Awwik]

The +karma would be abused just like !votefk. You have to understand that 3/4 of jailbreak are kids the other 1/4 are stoned. We can't let voting have any effect on game play. Also that being said the !leadct would be spammed and binded so that would be spammed just as much as the screaming is now. I honestly think the best thing to do is take turns. Have the admins watch this and say who is going and who isn't. It's simple if awwik, JJK, and chicken all want to lead we work it out. Say JJK will lead first then chicken then awwik. Just work it out, if there is a argument have a admin step in and say well chicken if you have such a problem with JJK going first you will go last. Problems solved and then we don't have to code anything.

[LazaHorse]

Karma sounds like the perfect avenue for trolling. I think the main point that keeps coming up is that it doesn't seem like something that require having a mic should be decided through chat. Popularity mods lead to troll votes and first come first serve chat mods lead to people who don't have mics taking lead. The first to give orders rule is okay as long as CTs can be sensible (or are forced to be sensible) enough to give up lead once in a while. I think the best possible choice is to put a round limit (2 or 3) on someone being lead, barring of course only one ct WANTING to be lead. Not sure a chat-based mod is the way to go.

[Dr.jiggles]

My old Idea was karma mod

 

players can +1 -1 a playe by typing !karma

 

 

ct with highest karma gets lead priority

 

Ohh god yes please i h8 whenever they say all t's freeze and you twitch a little bit because you put your hand on your mouse or you take it off and they kill you, or whenever someone does a dick move. Like there were 4 guys left and he said to this guy pick two ts to die and he picked one and then he picked me, but him and the first t jumped off and rebelled and the ct's killed me even though they would've had to kill the other 2 since they rebelled and only 1 guy was left with !lr...

As for warday i think it should only be pool and obstacle since the only other places you end up getting killed very quickly like the medical place and vents is unfair...

[laos]

karma = trolled. It always happens on Jailbreak. People screw around with systems that involve popular voting

 

For the !leadct script - here are my thoughts

 

1. If you get it twice in a row, the next round it will automatically force you to wait 10 seconds before accepting your !leadct, that way others can have a chance.

 

2. If lead says nothing 10 seconds after !leadct, it opens it up for someone to take

 

3. !newlead or something like that. The equivalent of RTV for a round. opens up !leadct for a new usage.

 

Maybe it mutes everyone until 5:30 (like with Ts) except when you are lead. If lead dies then !leadct may be done again but everyone is unmuted from there on out.

[JJK]

Lol the worse example you can think of is "CTs might bind a chat command"

 

OH DEAR GOD NOO FUCK NO NOT A BIND TO TYPE 1 LETTER

 

But no seriously, if thats all you got than no need to psot a second tmie or in rackers case a 10th time.

 

 

 

Its pretty simple...it stops buffer...scroll up to see who typed x first.

 

I can understand to you jbers that this concept is difficult to grasp.

 

 

 

 

Yes laz, lead round limits might be simplest way to have best outcome

[racker16]

posted 3 times not 10, its a forum to voice opinions and each one of my posts has addressed something different on a 5 page thread, sadly you deleted my last post about a poll so i had to re-post my idea of a poll in a brief, hopefully this post doesn't get deleted too because If i cant voice my opinion on issues on the forum and cant address them in game then how can I offer my opinion?. Once again I'll attempt to state that we are making this too complicated and that admins should just handle spammers and lead hogs.