JessicaJoy Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I never play jailbreak ..but this is getting ridiculous... So, whoever suggested / made "no armory is implied" ...that is dumb. Might as well imply "no jumping" as well. The point of first cell is to get into armory. When CT's say freeze ...if I were to go into armory ..I then would freeze and get sent to 2nd cell. :/ Are we bring back the bible of an MOTD soon then too? Might as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I couldn't believe when i played jailbreak the other week either. That's the whole point of being there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwik Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 That is not the point of first cell. The point is to rebel, you don't have to use the portal. Deal with it Jessica it's in the rules go bitch somewhere else, it makes it harder to rebel and with out that rule we will have to deal with the idiot who goes in the portal not to rebel but troll. There is a break with the lead ct mod, have you noticed that since you don't play jailbreak? Do you want to wait 30 seconds every round to deal with the idiot who uses the portal to just go to second cell? I don't and I'm sure many others don't as well. Play the game as it should be played to rebel or listen to orders. It makes no sense to use a portal to a place where yOu are supposed to rebel to sit in a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJoy Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 TBH, I'm not the only one who thinks this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I think that it is implied because it is your choice to rebel. Going into armory is a form of rebelling. All of the guns needed to rebel are there. You take the chance and risk it. Either you want to kill the CT's/die trying, or you play their game and continue through a normal round listening to them. Rebelling = Chance/Risk. Choose wisely my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwik Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I think that it is implied because it is your choice to rebel. Going into armory is a form of rebelling. All of the guns needed to rebel are there. You take the chance and risk it. Either you want to kill the CT's/die trying, or you play their game and continue through a normal round listening to them. Rebelling = Chance/Risk. Choose wisely my friends. This is correct and put better than me! Thanks moo cow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koth Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 its jailbreak its for 12 year old kids to cry. which is why you never go in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laos Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Im not here to cry but I did prefer when no armory wasn't implied - made it harder for the CTs and more fun for the Ts. Ts usually get fucked over very quickly in first cell and such so it at least makes it a little more fun in the long run Why was it implemented anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Overruled CT to T win ratio is like 1 : 6 standby for news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackberry4511 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 JJK actually applied it. i think, and anyway it keeps mass chaos to a minimal. people are still getting used to the whole typing to get lead thing so i think that having no armory implied is pretty good. Also, it is still easy to rebel against the Cts because of there lack of focus over that area after a period of time. So, I'm all for it and i think its a good rule. but i do think that maybe after a period of time it shouldn't apply anymore. like on how on free-days sometimes Cts will still kill T's for going into armory and coming out without a gun or having it holstered. So the rule does have its ups and downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l4d2bob Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 People just bind the "!" to get lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Orders are given within 4 seconds of round start its nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seboard Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 War day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 With the earlier system you could do three things by going to armory at round start. Show up early before told to freeze, get moved back to somewhere else. Show up after being told to freeze, get shot in genitals. Show up whenever with bomb, kill off 80% of CT's before 5:45. Two of these are still possible, the third is just a waste of time anyway. Only problem I have is that randoms with no mic will get lead for typing something other than ! causing the server to spend 40 seconds at round start finding a new lead. I do like the new system better overall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearthug Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 its jailbreak its for 12 year old kids to cry. which is why you never go in it. Nice to prejudge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearthug Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Any new rule, will have its pro's and con's. I feel like the ! system is better than before. Much respect to JJK for that. As for what Jessica is saying, I agree with her. Terrorists already have a hard time rebelling because they have no guns. They are usually surrounded by CT's with guns. So with the first cell - armory rule implied = Terrorists have nothing until cell doors are opened with the exceptions of USP cell, and even then depending on when the doors open and how many CT's are out there, T's may or may not have the chance to rebel/run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevodka Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I prefer it this way, you don't mishaps whether or not 'he was here before', it saves time in the beginning of the round, and you may utilize the actual purpose of 1st cell, which is to get into armory when the ct's have vacated, so you may grab your gun and continue. There's no need for anyone to enter armory, sit there frozen, and waste everyone else's time by having to go to a new cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaincracker Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 While we're at it we should mute all T's the entire round so that Ct's can give clear orders. And maybe be able to play games without the tarps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearthug Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Why streamline everything? Why make the server so linear? With so little choices? Nevodka, I understand how you feel and really? It sounds ideal. To the CT's. Not to the T's. Who doesnt waste time? Unless a Lead CT gives out a terrible tarp which gets more than half the T's dead before a game. Going in armory from first cell before someone leads, you have the chance to get a gun, holster it or rebel, or you can just go out and open cell doors or attempt to before orders are given, giving T's a small advantage, or if a T goes in and orders are given, the Lead CT can tell him to go back to a cell or solitary, etc, and that T has numerous choices on what to do. Its all about giving the Terrorists a little more freedom of choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Android Penguin Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 While we're at it we should mute all T's the entire round so that Ct's can give clear orders. And maybe be able to play games without the tarps Maybe instead just set the server up with the mod that blocks hldj shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnicide Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I vote against the armory implied rule coming from someone who plays T 95% of the time. It was always a blast to run in and just strafe in front of guns so everyone gun plants and dies. No more now people just sit in armory and watch portal till 5:20 when everyone is outside cells. No chance for any sneaky business. Best hope for T is to rebel at cell stairs and that is a 90% fail who wants to risk death 90% with the exception of me? No one. Only real chance to get a gun is to find a new ct who is a derp and baits. Then derp ct gets insta gibbed tlock there goes chance for another 20 rounds. /end rant TL;DR Armory implied sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 now people just sit in armory and watch portal till 5:20 when everyone is outside cells. This... isn't the case. My rule of thumb is if they're not out by 5:40 they're either AFK or doing something they don't need to be. I jump the vent to armory at 5:30, and if anyone is still there to shoot me, u bet they're going to T. As for everything else... you'll live. Having this rule solves a LOT of unnecessary problems, and your small gripes about not getting CTs slayed by gunplanting do not outweigh that. Sorry, but you'll live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnicide Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Way better than getting a gun then shooting someone turning red causing all cts to unload on you. And as for the I jump vent thing you were saying that is all good for you being admin, but for the rest of us without admin cts in armory watching portal till late is a real pain in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strafe Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Didn't like the rule at first, now I like it quicker to get the order, less buffers and less chaos imo it didn't ruin the game at all. if you get first cell just crouch to the entrance and play haha im going but you cant stop me in that split second with ct's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laos Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 While we're at it we should mute all T's the entire round so that Ct's can give clear orders. And maybe be able to play games without the tarps Truth. Challenges are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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