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PSA - Bhopping vs. Scripting


Cal45
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Alright admins, I am making this thread because I have seen a lot of ban requests/reports recently for "bhop scripters" and a lot of them are probably unjust.

 

I would venture to guess that anyone who does a report on someone bhopping probably has never learned how to do so themselves. If you take some time to understand it a little better, you will realize it's not that hard, ESPECIALLY on the Jailbreak server.

 

Okay, let's start off with the commands that you enter into console to make bhopping easier.

fps_max 34 (This one is very important. There will be some debate on this, but play around with this number and see what works best for you. It is almost impossible to bhop on max fps)

cl_showpos 1 (This will show your in-game velocity so you know how fast you are going. FYI, standard running velocity is 250)

bind mwheeldown +jump (scrolling mousewheel will make you jump, making it easier to time jumps)

 

 

Want to see it in action? Watch the video I made:

[video=youtube;StCDDMVGdmk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StCDDMVGdmk

 

 

Using these methods and just good timing and my mousewheel to jump, I have achieved 850-900 velocity on a flat surface. That's almost as fast as the speed you move at when in spectator.

Now I can also keep that going for quite a while given I don't miss a jump or bump into anything.

 

 

 

 

Sorry Solveit, I am going to use your report as an example because it was the most recent one I saw:

https://hellsgamers.com/threads/50368-Possible-B-Hop-scripts-G

 

If you look at those demos, he neither has high velocity or keeps it going for very long at all.

Now that you know the extreme of what is possible, please use better judgement next time you want to post a report on someone for bhop "scripting."

 

 

 

 

Thank you, that is all.

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Yeah I can also nearly bhop on regular servers, what I usually watch out for is when they are scripting they sometimes jump forwards and still bhop for a while (longer than 2-3 jumps) which obviously can't be done. I never use that circle method that you just did I just start going left and right but yeah.

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Good explenation! Lets hope theres less bhop script reports that aren't valid ones...

Two thing I noticed from your video. You have the same mouse as me, and two, the lead of that round gave an illegal order, "When I say the magical word wolfman" is a word tarp, and is not allowed at the start of the round.

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..... the lead of that round gave an illegal order, "When I say the magical word wolfman" is a word tarp, and is not allowed at the start of the round.

 

Naw, it wasn't an illegal order then. This video is from April.

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approved for letting more people know about fps_max. Disapproved for +left in video :)

 

Why doesn't jailbreak just cap fps and/or do sv_enablebunnyhopping 0?

 

I don't use the +left bind anymore, I was just showing what is possible on the high end.

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Just an idea... can we make extreme bhoping just not allowed on the JB server? Some players, like me and many others, will NEVER be as good as cal at bhoping. This gives an unfair advantage to said "special" players. Not to mention in the MOTD it says "•keep your bhop turn scripts to the bhop server, dont interrupt gameplay" Even if it not scripts it does interrupt the gameplay.

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Just an idea... can we make extreme bhoping just not allowed on the JB server? Some players, like me and many others, will NEVER be as good as cal at bhoping. This gives an unfair advantage to said "special" players. Not to mention in the MOTD it says "•keep your bhop turn scripts to the bhop server, dont interrupt gameplay" Even if it not scripts it does interrupt the gameplay.

 

I don't think it'd be a big deal for someone to be playing around during LR or something, but if someone is doing a turn bind to bhop that fast during a normal day, it shouldn't be allowed.

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Why does fps_max 34 look so smooth on your screen? I changed it to 34 one time because you said it was better, but I bhopped worse than at regular settings (~700 velocity at max on the JB server). Anyways, binding +jump to mousewheel up and down can help a little for some people. Also, what helps me, is having a smooth rolling mousewheel rather than a "clicky" one, but it's just a personal preference.

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