reta2040 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) So I know this probably won't happen but is there a way the AQ Gang leader or any higher Admins remove the speed perk for all of their members while playing? It's becoming annoying how they just rebel easily by knifing any CT and get high scores all thanks to that speed. Why can't they just rebel like everyone else without having to use that speed and abuse it, especially when CT lead is AQ - they sometimes do race days in green/red light or the race beacon area which favors their members on T. Same goes for lr when AQ members on T start abusing their speed perk to do a race lr against CT. !pd works just fine for everyone. Maybe increase !pd to 8 rather than only 5 and see how that goes? Basically it's possible to rebel and get 30 kills and 8 death if they learn how to rebel without that speed but the way its going right now they ruin game-play for those who try to rebel normally without using that speed. I hope someone can look more into this and find a solution so all players can get treated equally. Edited May 7, 2012 by Bonbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil6193 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Speed just makes it fun, as for cts getting knifed derps needs to be away from ts, if you dont have speed join any gang or create your gang with speed perk, i havent seen any abuses with speed perk, also both cts and ts can buy speed with gang points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reta2040 Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Speed just makes it fun, as for cts getting knifed derps needs to be away from ts, if you dont have speed join any gang or create your gang with speed perk, i havent seen any abuses with speed perk, also both cts and ts can buy speed with gang points. It makes it fun for THEM AQ members not others players. When like 6 of their members rush lead or CTs with their AQ speed and kill them, there's nothing CTs can do if they can't aim at them properly.. That doesn't make CTs derps. If anything it would make the CT freekill other Ts by mistake if they got in the way. You may not have seen any abuse with speed days but I have while playing. AQ CT members tend to do race days at times which like I already said it favored their members on T and I've witnessed many more abuses like for example there are 3 Ts left and 1 of them is AQ and the CT who is AQ asks them to last reaction and if the AQ T jumps last, the lead claims he didn't see it so he asks them to last reaction again until the AQ member gets lr. BiT members or whatever do the same thing as well not only AQ. I'm not here to argue about that anyway since I don't demo or screenshot anything stupid like that that usually happens but no one ever mentions. AQ members always abuse their speed perk on race lr and no one can deny that. I've seen it many times. I don't plan on creating a gang at all I just don't see a reason why I should - treat all of the players equally and stick with !pd and !buy or consider increasing !pd to 8 and like you said RedDevil, they can always buy speed with their gang points rather than have speed all the time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil6193 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Ok so with gang perk we have scouts we should disable that also right cause they shoot lead, then we should disable bombs cause they blow up lead, race i d say may be but cts still can buy speed cheap than ts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloth Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Before I joined aQ I still had tons of fun in JailBreak. I've never seen an aQ lead say they didn't see someone jump during a last reaction jump. If CT's can't shoot a moving target then they need to get off of CT's. When I play as a CT against aQ members I can take off any of their heads. From what i've seen this week CT's have been terrible. Its not the gangs, its the guards. The perks have been fine. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it should be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav3Schneider Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I don't see your argument. It is a gang PERK. Meaning it is a bonus for being in the gang. No point to get rid of it or even complain about it. Just play the game and enjoy yourself. I am in AQ and I never abuse it or even see abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reta2040 Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Ok so with gang perk we have scouts we should disable that also right cause they shoot lead, then we should disable bombs cause they blow up lead, race i d say may be but cts still can buy speed cheap than ts. You make a good point but the problem is that when they had the scout it wasn't as bad as it is with speed. They didn't have unfair advantage with their speed rushing and rebelling and ruining game-play for others back then. It was only a scout with few bullets to kill lead. Now it's speed and rebelling every around so it frustrates CT and many just rage quit. How is that fair to them and other Ts who aren't in AQ who just want to have fun? CT can buy speed yes but AQ members don't have to buy it, do they? That's unfair advantage and a lot of people agree. Just keep speed in the buy menu for anyone who have enough points to spend on it, don't just give it to a whole bunch of players in one group and to hell with other players. Before I joined aQ I still had tons of fun in JailBreak. I've never seen an aQ lead say they didn't see someone jump during a last reaction jump. If CT's can't shoot a moving target then they need to get off of CT's. When I play as a CT against aQ members I can take off any of their heads. From what i've seen this week CT's have been terrible. Its not the gangs, its the guards. The perks have been fine. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it should be removed. Well just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I barely see you playing on there anyway. That's not what matters because it doesn't happen all the time. And no CTs have not been terrible. AQ speed is what's ruining the fun for everyone. CTs have no chance of coping with their speed so they just start joining T or leave. That's why you see 33 Ts and 6 CTs. I don't see your argument. It is a gang PERK. Meaning it is a bonus for being in the gang. No point to get rid of it or even complain about it. Just play the game and enjoy yourself. I am in AQ and I never abuse it or even see abuse. Right but what was wrong with the scout? It was a good perk or they can get a first cell perk? Or maybe keep the speed perk but limit it for 5 seconds. That would be fair for everyone since it is a bonus for being in a gang. Having speed all round long is stupid.. It should just stay in the buy menu. Also maybe consider having both teams bar lead muted for 1 minute after the round starts just so the lead can give orders without Ts and CTs spamming over him? That would = T's listening to orders carefully without doing orders wrong and getting killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 You are look at this the wrong way. The easiest way to stop a rebel is to pace the guards far off so someone with a reaction time of 5 seconds can kill the rebeller, and place 5 guys on top of sauna to guard first cell. There problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Make them do obstacle. Instadead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Honestly what i'm seeing with you is you're not enjoying jailbreak. This probably isn't the jailbreak server for you if you're hating on it. Go find a new jailbreak server if you don't like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalLobster Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I'm sorry but from the looks of it, you are just complaining. If you play long enough, you will know how to deal with Ts with gang perks and be a decent CT. And I second Sloth, there has been a lot of bad CTs lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Stop saying they're abusing their GANG SPEED PERK, cos that's what it is. They can use it for rebelling, or whatever they want when they're on T. You're complaining cos you don't have it and things aren't going your way. You could join aQ for their perk, create your own gang and set the perk to speed and lvl your gang, or you can also buy speed through the !buy menu. Also what MaGiC said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidarius Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 It has taken me a ton of time/work to get my gang to the level it is now in order to have the speed perk and other perks at a higher rate/power...You are saying that after 1 year of earning the privilege of these perks that they should be stripped of my gang because we kick your ass with them? Maybe try to learn the MODs and get invited to a good gang to counter our perk and enjoy the variety? AQ!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 It has taken me a ton of time/work to get my gang to the level it is now in order to have the speed perk and other perks at a higher rate/power...You are saying that after 1 year of earning the privilege of these perks that they should be stripped of my gang because we kick your ass with them? Maybe try to learn the MODs and get invited to a good gang to counter our perk and enjoy the variety? AQ!! This man puts more effort into jailbreak than he does to raising his own children. Leave his speed alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conan Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Fist of all its not aq speed its AQ SONIC BOOTS Second if ct's do't bait then they won't get knifed Third AQ AQ AQ AQ AQ AQ AQ AQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reta2040 Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Stop saying they're abusing their GANG SPEED PERK, cos that's what it is. They can use it for rebelling, or whatever they want when they're on T. You're complaining cos you don't have it and things aren't going your way. You could join aQ for their perk, create your own gang and set the perk to speed and lvl your gang, or you can also buy speed through the !buy menu. Also what MaGiC said. No Angel... Things are going my way. I do get higher scores than those in AQ without !pd, !buy and gang perk. It just requires more skill that they don't have. Some of their members can't even rebel properly or aim with a gun so nice try of being smart about it. I rather not mention who I am but im in top 20 on the hellsgamers gameme jailbreak rankings. It has taken me a ton of time/work to get my gang to the level it is now in order to have the speed perk and other perks at a higher rate/power...You are saying that after 1 year of earning the privilege of these perks that they should be stripped of my gang because we kick your ass with them? Maybe try to learn the MODs and get invited to a good gang to counter our perk and enjoy the variety? AQ!! Right. All I was saying that it should be limited at times especially during race days and lr. So like I said above I get better scores than your members so I'm not really looking for an invite. I know all MODs I've played this server for 3 years and I haven't violated any rules and I don't want to be in a gang especially not yours so enjoy your speed perk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidarius Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 No Angel... Things are going my way. I do get higher scores than those in AQ without !pd, !buy and gang perk. It just requires more skill that they don't have. Some of their members can't even rebel properly or aim with a gun so nice try of being smart about it. I rather not mention who I am but im in top 20 on the hellsgamers gameme jailbreak rankings. Right. All I was saying that it should be limited at times especially during race days and lr. So like I said above I get better scores than your members so I'm not really looking for an invite. I know all MODs I've played this server for 3 years and I haven't violated any rules and I don't want to be in a gang especially not yours so enjoy your speed perk. You get higher scores than AQ? So apparently the reason you made this thread is to do what i like to call "Pulling a Brian" , stop hating...get better. It must be hard to be in top 20 and have us not know who you are when 15/20 ARE AQ!! Quit crying, end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCreepZz Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreo Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I agree, aQ is gay and they should go back to scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 So many ad hominem remarks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Jesus - can you guys quit flaming. OP thanks for the suggestion, i have felt is is over powered. We are going over ideas to make it more balanced. Just make a short and sweet suggestion next time, rather than 2 pages of flaming and arguing about JAILBREAK Personally, the only problem i ever see is LR advatages. I never see speed giving unfair advantaged when they are to line up or to stack. maybe sock. but if they run its easy as fuck to kill em (unless im the rebel) and i dare you to try to use the 'you dont play enough' reasoning on me p.s. Sid - try 6 months not 1 year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I change my mind you come here hiding and under a vpn Clearly aware there would be flames and you want to hide. I will no longer take you serious and discuss this idea while you hide. If you want to do something about it man up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racker16 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 had a long post, decided this thread was just stupid, they earned the perk and deserve it. the speed boost can barely even be abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidarius Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Jesus - can you guys quit flaming. OP thanks for the suggestion, i have felt is is over powered. We are going over ideas to make it more balanced. Just make a short and sweet suggestion next time, rather than 2 pages of flaming and arguing about JAILBREAK Personally, the only problem i ever see is LR advatages. I never see speed giving unfair advantaged when they are to line up or to stack. maybe sock. but if they run its easy as fuck to kill em (unless im the rebel) and i dare you to try to use the 'you dont play enough' reasoning on me p.s. Sid - try 6 months not 1 year BonBon is the one who told me its been close to a year, cause i said to him "AQ is almost level 20, remember when gangs first rolled out you said it would take years?" and he said it has already been a year, I KNEW WE DID IT SOONER!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racker16 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 i dont even think we had gangs a year ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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