JuIcY Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) So this is more of a feeler suggestion to see how everyone else that plays JB would consider this script possibly being implemented, not sure if it has been discussed before but I couldn't find it here: "A **New Player** cannot join Guards/Ct unless they have played X rounds/hour(s) as a Prisoner/T" **(New player meaning brand new IP/Steam ID to a JB server) Now I have my own two sides to the argument, here we go. FOR THIS: 1. New players get to learn the rules for a period of time so that when they do join guards, they understand the rules and are less likely to freekill and derp (Baiting in particular) 2. Evens out guards who know how to handle a ratio of T's when default ratio is 1 guard to 2 prisoners. 3. (counter to against) many regulars play on our JB maps that situation 1. would be seldom 4. Less Ban reports to deal with Noobs learn by trial and error and tlist AGAINST THIS: 1. In a situation when there are a lot of new players and no regulars on, nobody could join CT and the rounds would not carry forward. 2. Players that spend so much time on T (X amount) and not being given the chance to join guard may find other JB servers where they can play as guard without restriction. I can see the pro's and cons to it on my end but was wondering, what's are your guys' opinion on something along these lines? Could it be practical and work? Post your for/against and Ill add it to this first thread if its realistic Edited October 20, 2013 by JuIcY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Headband)(EG) Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I like it. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImHypnotic Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I like the idea.. but those cons are very big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuIcY Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 I like the idea.. but those cons are very big. Seems legit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyleeZy Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 AGAINST THIS: 1. In a situation when there are a lot of new players and no regulars on, nobody could join CT and the rounds would not carry forward. 2. Players that spend so much time on T (X amount) and not being given the chance to join guard may find other JB servers where they can play as guard without restriction. I think you may have answered your own thought as to where this idea is going to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuIcY Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) I think you may have answered your own thought as to where this idea is going to go. Do the cons outweigh the pro's though? FOR THIS: 3. (counter to against) many regulars play on our JB maps that situation 1. would be seldom Edited October 20, 2013 by JuIcY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factions Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 If their is a new guard and he fucks up they will just get tlisted then they learn the game as a t. WE dont need no fancy smancy hours played to be guard! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Headband)(EG) Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 If their is a new guard and he fucks up they will just get tlisted then they learn the game as a t. WE dont need no fancy smancy hours played to be guard! But you still havent learned... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factions Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) But you still havent learned... but I know not to play ct Edited October 20, 2013 by Factions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuIcY Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 If their is a new guard and he fucks up they will just get tlisted then they learn the game as a t. WE dont need no fancy smancy hours played to be guard! Exactly, WE don't but newbies do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factions Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Exactly, WE don't but newbies do Noobs learn by trial and error and tlist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comic King Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I tlocked and tlisted Crispy Cream (a guy from CS GO jailbreak) sooooo many times, i think he doesn't get the point of the game's rules. I luv this idea of JuicY's +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil6193 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 tldr, i didnt play jb for a long cause i didnt wanted to join ct then derp and i played t and didnt know shit so got killed all the time so i left the server aka rq, so slay templock tlist its been that way and still ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuIcY Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Slowly finding out that implementation... how could we know who already has been on the servers. Could use our stats menu but could be another mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjoppie Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 hey sup guys new to hg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil6193 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 hey sup guys new to hg HI there and diamelo says hi too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.lsd Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 so much work for such a simple thing just tlock or tlist derps and tell them to type rules JB isnt so hard where we need a x hours system hey sup guys new to hg Welcome to HG 4. Less Ban reports to deal with http://i.imgur.com/46HF9K9.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuIcY Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yeah fuckit, things are perfect just the way day are doe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathShot Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 How is having less reports a pro? And we have slay/tlock/tlist for a reason: it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageQuit Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 tldr, i didnt play jb for a long cause i didnt wanted to join ct then derp and i played t and didnt know shit so got killed all the time so i left the server aka rq, so slay templock tlist its been that way and still ok. Hi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poundcakes Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 If it aint broke don't fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delink Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Your a funny one suggesting stuff like this.... just perm tlist them till they learn and beg for mercy on hgbans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poohunter Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) I remember this being brought up the longest of times ago, then being shot down. Either way I still actually support the idea. Here's a scenario: Guy 1 Joins the server for the first time Guy 1 Joins CT, has never played jailbreak before. Guy 1 goes killing Ts cell to cell because, huh, the point of counter strike source on CT is to kill Ts and prevent them from planting the bomb rite?!1!1 Guy 2 drops the tlist hammer on him, perm tlist for mass freekilling. Guy 1 doesn't know why he's tlisted, or how to appeal this, There are 2 possible outcomes to this: 1: Guy 1 ragequits and leaves the server forever 2: Guy 1 gets told by a nice admin (highly unlikely since admins are usually assholes ) that he can go to the forums to appeal his ban, so he goes to the forums and looks at his ban. Now, if Guy 1 went with option 2, then there are more possible outcomes to this. 1: Guy 1 looks at his tlist... PERMA?! He ragequits and leaves the server forever 2: Guy 1 looks at his tlist. He decides to create an account to appeal. He's 7 and doesn't know his postal code so he ragequits and leaves the server forever. 3: Guy 1 looks at his tlist. He decides to create an account to appeal. He finishes creating an account and asks nicely on the tlist "Hey I'm new here and didn't know what was going on, now that I know what I did wrong, may I get untlisted?" Admin 1 says "sure brah, lemme reduce it to 2 months to give you some time to learn." If guy 1 chose option 3, everyone goes on their fine and dandy ways and happily ever after, etc etc. Now, as to why I support this: It would seem to actually IMPROVE the player base of our server. Note how many times the options came up "Guy 1 ragequits and leaves forever". By automatically keeping people off CTs for a while when they first join the server, this prevents them from doing something stupid that would get them permanently tlisted, thus relieving them of the many options to "ragequit and leave the server forever". Now, when I first started playing the server a while ago, I got tlisted for shooting a stack, and essentially mass freekilling (I was not familiar with the rules then). I guess luckily for me, this was before they were handing out perm tlists for mass freekilling. Also luckily for me, this was on the old HG bans system, so you won't find it on my record. Now I was very close to going the "ragequit and leave the server forever" route. Luckily for me, I didn't and now I'm a friggin member in HG. What I'm trying to say here, is that by simply keeping these people off CT for a while, we're actually giving them a chance. A chance to learn how to play and stay off the tlist. PERP has a system in place that prevents you from having certain jobs until you've played X amount of hours, why can't we apply that to JB? Also, I'm pretty sure there's ALWAYS people on the server that have played for at least 24 hours, even very late at night. At least on CS:S. Edited October 21, 2013 by Poohunter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuIcY Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 very nice follow up poohunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Broken- Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 This thread again... What if they have played on other jailbreak servers and gave our rules a read? You still going to make them wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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