Burnt Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well I've noticed this a majority in my return, but also when I was a free admin before my LOA. I'd say 35% of the time I play JB my admin magically decides to leave. It especially likes doing this when there is admining to be done. First off I was wondering if anyone knows the reason for this, as I know when my admin goes away so does everyone else's (except root). Second, I'd like to know which is the better thing to do in this situation : CT ends up baiting/free killing and needs to be slain. I would slay except my admin decides to leave. Normally it comes back the next round which could be a long time so, should I (A) slay next round which the CT may not know what he did or (B ) give another warning through ALL chat the next round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well I've noticed this a majority in my return, but also when I was a free admin before my LOA. I'd say 35% of the time I play JB my admin magically decides to leave. It especially likes doing this when there is admining to be done. First off I was wondering if anyone knows the reason for this, as I know when my admin goes away so does everyone else's (except root). Second, I'd like to know which is the better thing to do in this situation : CT ends up baiting/free killing and needs to be slain. I would slay except my admin decides to leave. Normally it comes back the next round which could be a long time so, should I (A) slay next round which the CT may not know what he did or (B ) give another warning through ALL chat the next round. I used to notice this quite a bit in TF2's JB server... it would disappear for a few rounds. I see it happen quite a bit on the CSS JB server now as well. Here is how I handle the situation.... I tell the player that they need to slay themselves. If they don't do it then I have another admin do it (if they are able) and if not, I'll do it when admin returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnt Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 I used to notice this quite a bit in TF2's JB server... it would disappear for a few rounds. I see it happen quite a bit on the CSS JB server now as well. Here is how I handle the situation.... I tell the player that they need to slay themselves. If they don't do it then I have another admin do it (if they are able) and if not, I'll do it when admin returns. Yes it tends to happen quite often for me, not as much others but sometimes nobody will have it and we have to wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.lsd Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) mine has never disappeared for more than a few seconds.. o_O I should clarify, yes it cycles between on and off but when it does, its back right away Edited July 18, 2014 by Audiotape 2nd line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huejay Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I can agree with this situation. Every time I try to slay someone or even tlocking, the admin is just gone. It usually says my name is [admin] [HG] Huejay but sometimes it goes like [HG] Huejay with no [admin] next to it. Kinda weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCII Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Admin is connected to your steam id When steam goes down, which happens sometimes, your admin will disappear . The server refreshes admin list and steam is back on, ur admin reappears. Im pretty sure that's how it works. blame gabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRedPanda Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hate to break it to you but I talked to Bonbon about this and there is no way to fix it :/. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalshot Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Its the database that free admin is on... I think 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil6193 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Its the database that free admin is on... I think Hate to break it to you but I talked to Bonbon about this and there is no way to fix it :/. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa John Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Pretty much our database ( not Steam's ) decides to arbitrarily take a coffee break ( gets over queried / loaded / DDOS'ed / fat ) and the game server can no longer verify if a player should have admin so to be safe it drops their admin privileges entirely. We use to have a cache system that minimized this downtime, but it has gone the way of the dodo and so for now you just have to deal with it. Edited July 18, 2014 by Papa John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnt Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Pretty much our database ( not Steam's ) decides to arbitrarily take a coffee break ( gets over queried / loaded / DDOS'ed / fat ) and the game server can no longer verify if a player should have admin so to be safe it drops their admin privileges entirely. We use to have a cache system that minimized this downtime, but it has gone the way of the dodo and so for now you just have to deal with it. Seems legit, yeah it used to never drop it but that was like 20 12 - early 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Pretty much our database ( not Steam's ) decides to arbitrarily take a coffee break ( gets over queried / loaded / DDOS'ed / fat ) and the game server can no longer verify if a player should have admin so to be safe it drops their admin privileges entirely. We use to have a cache system that minimized this downtime, but it has gone the way of the dodo and so for now you just have to deal with it. Mostly right. In order to have instant pay admin, we have to have our admin reload itself from the MySQL database every once and a while. Problem is, we have been experiencing database problems, so we had to set the update frequency to 60 seconds in order to try to fix mysql timeouts But because our queries are threaded' date=' it takes between 1-10 seconds from the time the admin cache is dumped, until it is retrieved again. Resulting in 1-10 seconds of downtime every 60 seconds. Seems legit, yeah it used to never drop it but that was like 20 12 - early 2013 And yes, it used to update every 3 minutes, but it was changed to every 1 minute. Which is why it seems to happen a lot more as of recently. tl;dr Anyways, long story short, I've added something for that 1-10 second period in between when the cache is dumped, until it is retrieved again. Effective 1-2 server restarts from now, we should be all good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iPhobia Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Sounds like i'm having the same issue on GMOD. I have gold but when I pull up the ulx menu, no admin commands show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa John Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) Sounds like i'm having the same issue on GMOD. I have gold but when I pull up the ulx menu, no admin commands show. Same idea, every minute or so the server will go over every player and attempt to get information from the admin database to see if the player has admin and what group to assign them to. If it can't connect to the database it just makes their group the default (user) user group and they can no longer use admin commands. However, because it checks every minute, that means as soon as the database is reachable again you will get your admin commands back. Edited July 20, 2014 by Papa John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iPhobia Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Might have been down for a bit, I was playing for about an hour, checking it every few minutes. Its all good though, was just trying to gag someone playing music repeatedly but stopped after 10 mins. or so. Thanks though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xWolfpack Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Maybe it depends on location, I am from EU and the bug happens often to me but meanwhile the other admins are still active. And probably it was the EU Steam server that was down for a few seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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