-Broken- Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 So I've been seeing and hearing quite a bit of discussion about the new map on the server, teamspeak, and the forums, so I figured that a non-whining thread for people to constructively discuss the new map would be a good thing to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCII Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) I believe teleport from first cell should go to a vent, maybe to the tbone vents above deagle cage, still far from armory but gives a chance to armoy. first cell to kitchen then one to infirm just makes cts camp right outside doors. Someone with an awp, can be a chickenhawk camper from the catwalk above pool lookin towards kitchen and make alot of rep just sitting in the shadows. I just realized the ts will never ever be able to make chicken n cheese samiches in kitchen due to the fact there is a gun dispenser in there, muahahahaahahaa, I want to make forts and samiches!!!!! Edited June 8, 2012 by ASCII chickenhawk, samiches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 The new pool is too shiny... The pool is a hard area to keep control of everyone due to it's enormous size, the first cell goes to kitchen where there's a gun (da fuck), the dungeon is placed behind everything and will probably never be used, there are too many vents to keep a hold on everyone, shit. /Gabe's opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Headband)(EG) Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 se_r2>fix3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer-I- Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 se_r2>fix3 +10000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Broken- Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 The new pool is too shiny... The pool is a hard area to keep control of everyone due to it's enormous size, the first cell goes to kitchen where there's a gun (da fuck), the dungeon is placed behind everything and will probably never be used, there are too many vents to keep a hold on everyone, shit. /Gabe's opinion I can kind of see why you would say that about pool but I haven't had too much problem by giving orders piecemeal. It is much easier to give orders in the new pool through smaller shorter distance orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consuela Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 No such thing as too shiny a pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I have not read a single post yet, ill do it later. teleport will be moved next to gun in kitchen, otherwise quit bitchin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreo Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 i honestly think the new map is awesome, no ones ever gunna be completely happy, you'll always have someone whining that the map need sot be updated, and when it gets updated youll have people whining that the old one was better. The new map allows for people to start coming up with new shit, because there seems to be a lull in peoples creativity on the server. Also, the new update makes it a bit harder to control the ts, there being some more places for them to run off to, so i think the teleport being set to kitchen is a great idea, getting rid of the annoyance of there always being at least one t running off somewhere with a gun, also i think it was getting wayyyyyyyy to easy to rebel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Broken- Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 The main problem with the teleport to kitchen is the fact that, with the current rules, it is far to easy for the CTs to just roll up into kitchen en mass at the start of the round and wipe out any Ts that go in there. Either it needs to be made that the CTs can't go into kitchen or the teleport needs to be moved to a different room. Also I see one issue with the new way for Ts to get into armory. If it is an armory vent warday, then it is pretty much a guaranteed CT win. There needs to be some easier way for the Ts to get into armory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer-I- Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 if you like the map you probably like CT. they made this map nearly impossible for the terrorists to rebel, thats the only reason people like me play this game is to rebel and they just take it away. i like many others really hope this is eventually fixed or innovated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 First cell teleport is not as amazing as some people make it out to be. Don't like being sent to kitchen? Don't go through the teleporter. There are plenty of chances to rebel every round. If they aren't, you're playing against a Good lead and a Good set of CTs. That combination doesn't happen often, so when it does the CT team should win and deserves to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimzy Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 the new map looks SEXAYYYYYYYYY good work guys <3 Haters gonna hate, you can't make everyone happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youthedog Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Actually, rebelling is quite easy to me on here, in the pool there are more places to hide, in the kitchen you basically get a tmp and if you can *aim*, take out a few CT's coming out of armory. Dungeon needs to be utilized and have something put in it and another way to get in dungeon (maybe new vent there? idunno). Pool looks nice but underneath the diving board there is nodraw and that needs fixed, the vent from pool to upper VIP glitches and spazzes out. For some reason there's red lighting on the toilet and sink props in cells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer-I- Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 With the old map, two T's a round on average got first cell and were able to reach armory as a result. A large percentage of those people would be shot in armory before they can get far (though perhaps a bomb could lead to some CT deaths in retribution). Rarely does a first cell rebellion actually snowball into a T win. Usually T rebellions happen because of a CT being knifed by a hiding T or enough Ts running off from a poorly given order that the CTs who give chase are knifed and relinquish their weapons. First cell teleport is not as amazing as some people make it out to be. Don't like being sent to kitchen? Don't go through the teleporter. There are plenty of chances to rebel every round. If they aren't, you're playing against a Good lead and a Good set of CTs. That combination doesn't happen often, so when it does the CT team should win and deserves to win. idk what ur high on but for the past 2 months ive been ranked #1 on this server with the majority of my rounds where on Terrorist. 90% of the rounds that i rebelled on involved me using my gang perk (speed) to run into first cell and get a weapon using that side of the map. now i gotta dick around all round or get a TMP and be camped by awps from catwalk. the only people who enjoy this map are those who dont play very often or they only play ct (like your self.) if u play CT dont fucking sit there and tell me its easy to rebel on this map, im the fucking master of rebel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCII Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I suggest the first cell teleport go above deagle cage, that way ts can go either balls out with scout or be a ninja to the vents below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazaHorse Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 If you honestly can't talk about a map for a counter-strike souce mod that you had no part in developing or a map that you had no part in designing... without resorting to ad hominem attacks and in-the-moment emotion... why bother trying? Calm down. I am offering a counter-argument to your fairly valid point coming from a player who has been here longer and has experienced MULTIPLE versions of our jailbreak mod. And for the record, I enjoy playing T just as often as I enjoy playing CT. I go to CT to either admin players in armory or to help lead when other "suitable" leads are not on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Broken- Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 Can we stop with the attacking each other and just focus on constructive discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 the only thing i don't like is the pool, its like 40% brighter than the rest of the map and doesn't really fit in with the rest of the map's theme, I really like the diving board in it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 9. NO MORE THREADS/POSTS ABOUT THE FOLLOWING: Admins not doing their "jobs" (i.e. catching every single freekiller that exists, ever, admins not slaying someone because you said they should, etc.) The "good old days" of jailbreak. I can guarantee you that most people who make one of these threads were not here the day it opened. Even if you were, I don't care. So shut the fuck up. Threads whining about freekills without a report in them (we gladly accept freekill reports however, go here Threads whining about admin abuse without a report in them (again, reports are appreciated. admin abuse reports go here) Threads containing polls about what should be done to jailbreak (We're a benevolent dictatorship, not a democracy. If you have an idea, submit it to a Staff or Council member) Whiny rants in general. Granted there's no poll in this thread, but these threads are getting fucking ridiculous and just turn into "well i've been playing JB since 1997, im ranked 23434, and this part of Jb SUCKS! Change it NOA!" Have an idea? PM or talk to a staff or council member. These threads go no where and just promote bitching and complaining. Hardly anything constructive ever comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Broken- Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 9. NO MORE THREADS/POSTS ABOUT THE FOLLOWING: Admins not doing their "jobs" (i.e. catching every single freekiller that exists, ever, admins not slaying someone because you said they should, etc.) The "good old days" of jailbreak. I can guarantee you that most people who make one of these threads were not here the day it opened. Even if you were, I don't care. So shut the fuck up. Threads whining about freekills without a report in them (we gladly accept freekill reports however, go here Threads whining about admin abuse without a report in them (again, reports are appreciated. admin abuse reports go here) Threads containing polls about what should be done to jailbreak (We're a benevolent dictatorship, not a democracy. If you have an idea, submit it to a Staff or Council member) Whiny rants in general. Granted there's no poll in this thread, but these threads are getting fucking ridiculous and just turn into "well i've been playing JB since 1997, im ranked 23434, and this part of Jb SUCKS! Change it NOA!" Have an idea? PM or talk to a staff or council member. These threads go no where and just promote bitching and complaining. Hardly anything constructive ever comes out. Which is why I was trying to make a central thread for feedback and keeping it civil and constructive instead of people dick waiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Its a community map open to the public. If opinions cannot be expressed, even in a constructive manner such as this, then make the server private and you'll play with all 10 of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a non Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 So in regards to the kitchen teleport i have one question: If you teleport to kitchen when no orders are given are you a rebel? how could you be? its not a ct designated area nor is infirm. Therefore theoretically EVERY round lead must give orders to everyone in cells, AND to anyone why may be in kitchen. How can you say they are a rebel for being somewhere when there is no orders or lead?!?! If this could be addressed asap It would be much appreciated considering there is no consensus on this topic atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mccaincracker Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Brilliant idea incoming What if we got rid of first cell teleport? BAM no more bitching about camping armory, OH YOU DIDNT SEE ME IN VENTS, camping vents, ETC ETC However, i wouldn't want that done. If it were the way i preferred it would still tele you into the corner of armory. Protip: If you're in first cell go when the timer is at 5:39, by that time "armory campers" would have been tele'd out (unless they left and re-entered). P.S. Jailbreakers; this is why we can't have nice things. Gee mccain, i sure wish i thought of that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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