Bonbon Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I haven never seen a server limit hldj. they have it either on, or off. and ever ther jb had it off (we are unique and spammy) Why not try some restrictions? xG already has the ability to buy "HLDJ use" in their premium. its enjoyable to you?? press shift and tab and open youtube or type !radio dont force us to listen to your music because not everyone likes the same kind Couldn't have said it better myself. Maybe could have added some swearing and some ad hominem attacks but you worded it quite nicely. I hate to say it, but every thread involving HLDJ in some shape or form ALWAYS has to be derailed by the "remove it" movement. If it really pisses you off that badly, remove its functionality on the server or limit its usage to what JJK said a few posts up. I understand why some users dislike it, but there has been little effort (aside from JJK's experiment with it being off until 4 minutes) to change how it works in the server whatsoever so that it can be employed responsibly (see: new users on the server and those not in HG typically being the offenders). The only time I personally suggest that we disable HLDJ completely is in threads like this, whereby people are asking for LESS restrictions on HLDJ. I've personally, as well as JJK, have though of various methods of restricting HLDJ more, such as a "HLDJ Ban" (mute people that are banned from using hldj automatically), restricting it to admins, restricting it to 4:00, ect ect. But all methods of restricting seem to have their own draw backs. If we limit HLDJ to admin only, everyone's going to come to the forums and beg for it back :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToXiC. Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Couldn't have said it better myself. Maybe could have added some swearing and some ad hominem attacks but you worded it quite nicely. :/ hahah thanks the problem that i have with admin gets you hldj is that i see a lot of admins doing most of the spamming and when people say stop they dont and noone can mute them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 i say we try, and if people start begging, after 2 bans the rest of the beggers shoudl start to hold their tounge XD Worst case scenario, bonbon wastes all her time and were back to where we are now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageQuit Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 But all methods of restricting seem to have their own draw backs. If we limit HLDJ to admin only, everyone's going to come to the forums and beg for it back :/ Well, it's all in your (as in staff's) hands. You have a gist for those that use HLDJ responsibly and those that don't. Work it from there. Obviously, in a community like this, it's good to have input from various sources, but staff can't bend over backwards to placate certain users. As long as the server functions efficiently and those that utilize HLDJ as an aide and not a distraction are able to carry on as before, then I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToXiC. Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 who cares if they bitch for it back they were the ones who abused it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 imo you shouldnt be able to tell a t to stop playing music(unless its some gay pop music) because you can simply go into your player list and mute them and you will never have to hear hldj from them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 who cares if they bitch for it back they were the ones who abused it... Restricting HLDJ will effect both those who use it responsibly and those who don't. So really, it's going to be those who use it responsible that are suffering because some assholes like to spam a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJK Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 So really, it's going to be those who use it responsible that are suffering because some assholes like to spam a lot. Ok so a couple people will 'suffer' for those couple poeple - is lowers a fun factor of the gameplay, because they get the down end of the stick. The server did not get any worse. It just lacks that portion of fun from non admins that are responsible. But on the other hand, you guarantee most of the spam is gone. Fair trade imo you lose a large amount of spam Lets look at it in JJKMATH 100 (current server fun level) -20 fun for non admin/non hg hldj +50 spam prevention ____________________ that totals 420 ! see? Abusers would be few adn easy to catch. Because they woudl have HAD to agree to admin TOS, or HG app rules not to spam it (assuming hldj is limited) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToXiC. Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Ok so a couple people will 'suffer' for those couple poeple - is lowers a fun factor of the gameplay, because they get the down end of the stick. The server did not get any worse. It just lacks that portion of fun from non admins that are responsible. But on the other hand, you guarantee most of the spam is gone. Fair trade imo you lose a large amount of spam Lets look at it in JJKMATH 100 (current server fun level) -20 fun for non admin/non hg hldj +50 spam prevention ____________________ that totals 420 ! see? Abusers would be few adn easy to catch. Because they woudl have HAD to agree to admin TOS, or HG app rules not to spam it (assuming hldj is limited) haha jjk math seems hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Celestia Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 I'm always turning it off when I'm told to. Does it annoy me? A little bit but I roll with it. I'm fine with whatever you decide as Staff/Council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couch Crumbs Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 I haven never seen a server limit hldj. they have it either on, or off. and ever ther jb had it off (we are unique and spammy) Why not try some restrictions? Agreed, restricted to hg + admins = mo members, mo money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToXiC. Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 no recruits [HG] + and admin only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couch Crumbs Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 no recruits [HG] + and admin only This ^ rules out derps joining just for hldj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Broken- Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 no recruits [HG] + and admin only +1 totes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zezima Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 +1 for [HG]+ and admins It would cut down on the spam a ton and still give the ability to do certain days/ leaving the fun element in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToXiC. Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 ok guy i think we gotta a plan jjk and bon bon you really should do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MineCrack Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Does get pretty annoying when someone gets on and plays low quality music and doesn't turn it off when asked. Honestly don't care if I don't have it but as long as the derps don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Worst case scenario, bonbon wastes all her time and were back to where we are now I'm sure she will get over it in due time. Yeah, I think it would be good see how the whole admins and [HG]+ restriction thing goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Beck Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 What I have seen personally, usually their are admins on the server and when the music becomes really annoying they mute it from many player request. However, when the music is needed for such games as dance, or war-days their is no problem. Personally my opinion I think the system is great how it is already and we shouldn't make it complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToXiC. Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 its not really that complicated if you're [HG] or higher or have admin/premium then you can play hldj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Celestia Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Well in either case, I'm good for using hldj under the proposed new system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooT Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 I say off = on or louder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaincracker Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 but on a serious suggestion, WHAT IF, stick with me now, WHAT IF there was some sort of plugin that limited a user to use HLDJ a certain amount of times per round PREFERABLY 1 OR 2 TIMES PER USER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluHorse Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 but mccain how can we tell the difference (in the plugin) between the person simply queueing up their mic or queueing up a song for use through HLDJ. oh god logic. on a serious note off=off unless its disney. then off=louder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youthedog Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 but mccain how can we tell the difference (in the plugin) between the person simply queueing up their mic or queueing up a song for use through HLDJ. oh god logic. on a serious note off=off unless its disney. then off=louder. That's actually really possible.. it's how HLDJ can be disabled on some servers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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